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*If* Figures for "The Muppets" were made, what would you want?

Discussion in 'Action Figures' started by j3h, Jan 23, 2011.

  1. j3h

    j3h Well-Known Member

    A few questions to ponder if new action figures are to be made for the new movie...:confused:

    1. What existing toy company do you want to make them and why?
    2. What scale and style do you want them (ie:lots of articulation? Action features? As close to what Palisades had did?)
    3. How many characters per wave would you be comfortable buying (and at what max price point)?
    I'll make a second post with my own answers
  2. j3h

    j3h Well-Known Member

    1. what company?...not an easy one to answer in today's toy market. Hasbro & Mattel would get the largest distribution, but they would not be the best possible sculpts and probably would not be geared towards the collectors. Out of the smaller companies, I think I would prefer Mezco.
    2. I think the 5 to 6 inch range is best. not too articulated (Palisades really nailed this in terms of articulation vs sculpting astetic). The problem any company faces is that they will be compaired to Palisades and the fan base would want them to essentially start with "wave 11". It's hard to keep in mind that it would probably be a long way into the line (other than Walter) that we would see characters not already done by palisades....yeah, we would get movie specific outfits that palisades couldn't have done prior, but is that enough?
    3. I'd say 6 characters, with a max pricepoint of $12.99. Instead of the tons of accessories, include a "build a larger Muppet" part with each figure. for example wave 1 could include parts to build Thog
  3. Just copy Palisades, and don't repeat any figures!:rolleyes:

    That would be too much to ask.
  4. Eaglekiller

    Eaglekiller Well-Known Member

    As long as they are articulated ... I can't stand the thought of new figures that are just like mini statues. I think if they use the same strategy they used with Toystory and have many types of figures, styles and types we'll all be happy.
  5. minor muppetz

    minor muppetz Well-Known Member

    I think that there should be a new line of good quality figures, even if it's less than Palisades perfection. I'd say they should be 3 inches, with articulation in the necks, shoulders, and hips. Maybe make them character two-packs, with one major character and one minor character.

    A good line-up for series one:
    • Kermit and Robin
    • Miss Piggy and Janice
    • Fozzie Bear and Bobo
    • Walter and Uncle Deadley
    • Animal and Lips
    • Seymour and Pepe
  6. frogboy4

    frogboy4 Inactive Member

    if figures are made for the new movie...

    1. What existing toy company do you want to make them and why? That's hard to answer. If articulated Palisades style figures, then NECA. If smaller, less articulated then Mezco. Mattel and Hasbro are popular brands, but both get by on the brand recognition, not the quality. Sorry, Star Wars fans, but those standard figures super suck compared to what else is out there.

    2. What scale and style do you want them (ie:lots of articulation? Action features? As close to what Palisades had did?) Okay, I might not like Hasbro figures, but I do like the size. I prefer the smaller-scale figures because it's easier to cater to that size and build small playsets.

    3. How many characters per wave would you be comfortable buying (and at what max price point)? Four-to-six-per series is a good number. I'd buy all that they made as long as they're well made. I'm thinking the Disney Store will make a small PVC figure pack of six or seven figures like they do for their Pixar films.

    I really would love to see Disney try to launch their own ongoing Muppet figure series. I wouldn't go the Palisades route. It's been done and it takes a lot of space! That limits collections. Go smaller. :)
  7. MuppetAnimal

    MuppetAnimal New Member

    I would like Rowlf the dog to be released in again and this time a naked hairy Rowlf with piano as seen in the Muppet Show. Perhaps a deluxe version will have a piano that plays music when Rowlf's hand pushes a piano key button on the piano.
    The current price for Rowlf is a least $99 on ebay so I would suggest something below $30 for the new figure.:sympathy:

    I would also suggest mini versions of the Muppets (maybe Micro Machines) in Muppet backstage scenario to make them more affordable.:halo:

    I suggest Wave 1 to be:

    Kermit with brown cloak and hat with Robin as addition
    Miss Piggy as pig in space
    Fozzie Bear police patrol
    Gonzo the Great
    Animal the drummer with Electric Mayhem set as different package
    Rowlf with musical piano
    Statler and Waldorf

    Wave 2 may include:

    Bunsen and Beaker with lab accessories
    Swedish Chef
    Rizzo and Pepe Thanksgiving edition
    Scooter on rolling skateboard
    some other backstage less known Muppet characters

    I would also like Kermit, Animal, Fozzie, Rowlf to be interactive plush like Elmo Live.

    I think Disney will be spearheading the launch. Please release these figures in October or at lease release some samples worldwide this summer to promote the movie. I would vote for Rowlf the Dog first.;)
  8. MuppetAnimal

    MuppetAnimal New Member

    Will Disney release Muppet action figures for the new movie 2011? If so, when will it come out worldwide? I visited Disney stores in Singapore but disappointed to see no Muppet, only merchandises of Mickey, Pixar, Pooh and Princesses.:mad:
  9. fuzzydice82

    fuzzydice82 Member

    As much as I love the Palisades line, one things to remember is that if they make movie figures, they will probably be the 2011 movie versions of these characters, not The Muppet Show versions.

    That being said, I agree with:

    1) Neca or Mezco producing the figures

    2) Same scale as Palisades

    3) With what I said before, the characters will probably be the 5 or 6 main characters, Kermit, Piggy, Fozzie, Gonzo, Animal with a second wave of Rowlf, Rizzo, Bunsen, and Beaker, and maybe Scooter or Statler and Waldorf.

    I love the ideas of a build-a-figure Thog.

    I also would love a playset, even if it's a playset from the movie.

    Another pack-in idea or box-set idea would be Whatnots that have pegs for eyes, nose, hair, etc. similar to a Mr. Potato Head. Additionally, they could do a box of 3 or 4 generic Pigs that can had different clothes and accessories add-ons. A box of Penguins, a box of rats, or a box of chickens would be good too :)
  10. rowlfy662

    rowlfy662 Well-Known Member

    i would love to see figures of course we need a SAL johnny is so lonely unless you have rowlf and his piano near him but if figures are getting released i guess mattel or hasbro will battle to get them nut if mattel do it they better get some of the people from palisades to come back and help out

    but i do hope they do add build a monster monsters like thog doglion would be great additions near sweetums although i would need another shelve :)

    oh and need nedd a nude robin and lewis kazzager i would realy like that
  11. LinkiePie<3

    LinkiePie<3 Well-Known Member

    Ditto! Sal needs more love. XP

    I'm not so big into action figures-- But...

    If figures (or any doll-related items) for The Muppets were made, I'd like a limited edition Barbie collector's doll of Amy Adams as her character Mary, (included with a tiny plush/beanie Walter). :flirt:
  12. newsmanfan

    newsmanfan Well-Known Member

    Kazagger and Scribbler and the "new" Newsie. (Though I liked my old nose better...sigh...)
  13. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    I'm still pretty annoyed by what NECA did with TMNT and the 25th anniversary line. NECA can't seem to make more than one wave of anything a year. They're good with movie character highlights lines, but do we want Just a Kermit or just a couple characters?

    I dunno about you, but I don't think I want to see something similar to Palisades, because that's just inviting unfair comparisons. Palisades raised the bar so incredibly high with Muppet merchandise, we can no longer look at any Muppet merchandise the same way. Why, if we had something similar to the Fisher Price stuff AFTER Palisades, they'd be laughed out of MC! We'll never see non-textured figures again. Plus, these things are getting close to 20 dollars per. We can no longer expect to see 8-10 dollars for figure, and that's going to also help keep further figures down the line from happening.

    Sadly, if there were to be a toy line, the best bet would be a mainstream line... it IS a movie after all, so someone might jump on it for merchandise sakes. And I'd wager it would be Mattel... so... take what you will with that. Their DC line shows improvement, but they are the most overpriced, underdone kid's toys out there.

    Somehow I can't see a real deal AF line. Plush, sure... figurine sets, no problem... but a full AF line just seems out of the question.
  14. rowlfy662

    rowlfy662 Well-Known Member

    i kinda agree if there was going to be figures all i would really want is that there in scale with the palisades one and look like the characters athough i don't want an army of kermits

    the best place for more collector palisades like figures would be that mattel collector website i've seen a few figs on that and they look nice

    and already know if hasbro gets muppets i know there will be kermit the spud and fryzie bear for there mr potato head versions cause they do it if every other movie liensce they get they make special potato heads :)
  15. beaker

    beaker Well-Known Member

    All about this scale baby!




    Though strangely I seem to be the only Muppet fan on here who seems to champion that scale.

    Exactly. I really am sick of the mcfarlane/huge scale/every pore detailed thing. Sadly, now every figure at the store is now dinky and shrimpy, yet still cost $10 or more.

    1. Whoever Disney used for Toy Story 3
    2. 3.5"-4" scale. The Palisades scale had its day.
    3. Every single one, hopefully coming in packs.
  16. beaker

    beaker Well-Known Member

    Exactly. I wouldn't buy any figures myself if they strictly only went the big route.

    I got flamed in 2001/2002 for saying how there needed to be smaller scale figures to include more characters and have cheaper price points. Thankfully a year later Palisades answered with the 3'4" pvcs, though they weren't articulated...still were pretty amazing.

    Do many of you really have $12.99+tax to spend on every figure if they were to "do the Palisades size"? Come on...

    The ultimate Muppet fan dream is to have as MANY characters as possible, like the Star Wars figures...and that can only happen with smaller figures and packins. Its something Ive been wishing for three decades for:)
  17. frogboy4

    frogboy4 Inactive Member

    It would be nice to fill in a few Palisades figure gaps of Sal, Mahna Mahna, Bobo, Seymour & Pepe pack, Vets Hospital and a decent representation of Miss Piggy, but we've been there and done that and they wouldn't likely start with these obscure fellas. The reality is that Palisades-size and style figures would SRP for 14.99-21.99 each in this market. I'd rather smaller figure packs for 4.99-7.99 each. But if they come out with attractive-looking figures I'll buy them at any size. Smaller is just easier to produce, market, shelve and sell.
  18. rowlfy662

    rowlfy662 Well-Known Member

    actually i was thinking about this and figure in small scale is a nice idea and maybe then sell palisades sized figures as collector figures in collector shops or that mattel collector site although i would need many more selves if they did do it in palisades scale which is okay for me my swedish kitchen needs a selve to sit on then if they did make palisades scaled figures it would fill although i think more companys will go small cause of the cost of making toys but you never know
  19. beaker

    beaker Well-Known Member

    Oh totally, this is what they did with Toy Story 3. They made the big Palisades sized TS3 figures, small "buddy hero" size packs, 4" action figure versions, Disney pvc gift packs, Kinect figures, etc.
    Pretty much virtually every size and scale imaginable.

    Here's hoping the Diz does the same!
  20. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    The only characters I would want out of a Palisades clone line would be Sal, Bobo, and Clueless Morgan. But let's get realistic. if someone were to do a line exactly the same, we'd just get Kermit, Piggy, and Animal again. I don't think anything justifies buying the same characters in the same scale when the ones I bought years ago are good enough.

    Smaller, detailed figures... ones that can sell 2 to a pack and cost under 10 bucks? Can we DREAM? That's the perfect way to make and market Muppet characters... pair up popular characters with slightly less popular characters... Kermit with Scooter... something like that. I am anxiously awaiting the Sesame Street Buddy packs (stylization and all) due to the fact they found a place to put Murray and Telly toys.

    Not to mention the fact that larger figures died out years ago. I see less and less of them on store shelves, and the ones that are made are strictly movie monsters and comic book heroes. Maybe the occasional movie tie in, but those never sell as well. Fakey Japanese blind boxes (without candy :boo: ) are the way to go. I could see a Kid Robot Family Guy/Simpsons/Futurama type of line... if only Disney would loosen up on that license as they have their own vynal blind box line.

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