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*If* Figures for "The Muppets" were made, what would you want?

Discussion in 'Action Figures' started by j3h, Jan 23, 2011.

  1. LamangoNumber2

    LamangoNumber2 Well-Known Member

    Yep. Cause Negativity is how the world goes round. I'd want a Seymore, a George the Janitor, and just to tick you off, DrTooth, a muppaphone in a tiny cage.
  2. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    Enlighten me.

    How... How in the heck may I ask is being realistic "Negative?"

    Yes, I'd love to have every bloody single Muppet character as an action figure the same exact way as the Palisades ones... I'd love for the entire run if characters, even the ones I don't like and ones that did nothing in the background to fill out the set. But it's not in anyway VIABLE.

    Look at the Playmates Simpsons line. They were as thorough as they can get. But it ended. MacFarline got the license, they just gave us the 5 basic family members over and over again, and yet another Rainier Wolcastle/Milhouse Radioactiveman set instead of just a plain RadioactiveMan figure. And that license lasted ONLY one wave, and didn't do all that well since... well, it's MacFarline toys.

    NECA... TRUST ME ON THIS is TERRIBLE with future waves of toys. They could make good toys, but if the TMNT license is any indication, they'd make a Kermit, a Piggy, an Animal, maybe a Beaker or a Fozzie, and we'd have to wait a year at LEAST for more... and that's provided they want a second line. When they rolled out the TMNT line, they promised a second wave of Shredder, an Elite Guard, someone else I can't remember , and April. Guess what we got. Only April as a convention exclusive a year and a half later.

    Oh, and Palisades has been gone for at least 5 years now. Who else would have the vision to make that many Muppet characters? Even now, I'm shocked they even released as many as they did.

    Not to mention the fact that these things would cost up to 20 bucks each. Do you know how many expensive toys they'd have to sell to even get a second series? I don't think anyone but extreme collectors would bother getting Mildred or Angelo at those prices.... and I doubt we'd see anyone less popular than the Chef or the Mayhem band if we're lucky. Business sense, man... no one BUYS big action figures anymore. This isn't 10 years ago when little toy companies were coming out of the wood work.

    The best way, and I mean it... the best way to get obscure characters is to make something MUCH smaller scale, reasonably priced, and maybe even blind boxed.
  3. rowlfy662

    rowlfy662 Well-Known Member

    i totally agree there drtooth i am a collector and even i would pass on mildred or angelo at that price of $20

    also mattel if gets the muppets line we know what comes next mountains and mountains of kermit varients in each series and then one new character one example is the disney cars line look at how many lighting mcqueens they have i used to collect the disney cars and i really don't want millons of kermits

    and sal is pretty much the only character maybe bobo just cause they are the only two i got sad about kinda when the unrealsed series list hit muppet wiki and maybe the vets hospital as that was the last well known sketch on the muppets but the rest of the characters they were going to release would of been nice to have but not as nice as having a sal figure
  4. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    I tell you, the one thing I didn't like about that company was the fact they were so perfectionist, Sal kept getting put off series after series, and then just became unproduced. I wish they just got him into series 9 instead of that Chef color variant. but hey, I can't begrudge them for a couple characters when they did such exceptional work with what they gave us.

    Still, wish they didn't hop on the Lego figure bandwagon, but they were well too ahead of their time with the blind box Freakables... seriously, those didn't do well and sat on the shelves UNTIL the blind box fad set in. Then they vanished. If only they could have stayed around a while longer, and put those out later, they would have really cleaned up with them.
  5. rowlfy662

    rowlfy662 Well-Known Member

    very true with the lego fig thing but the thing that sunk series 9 was more steppin out fozzie i guess they released the chef for people who could not get the playset but why did they release that steppin out fozzie in the line when every other tux varient was exclusive which worked then maybe sal could of got in i heard that a sal prototype totally painted was on ebay a very lone time ago and i've heard of the ebay guy that sold cause he worked a palisades but it not there now and he does have the sesame street palisades protos in box but even if i had the money i would not pay over $3000 for them
  6. beaker

    beaker Well-Known Member

    Looking back, people had way too much unrealistic expectations with the Palisades line, and I'm surprised it got as far as it did(sadly, train crashing with the Sweetums web exclusive sold on some rinky dink shady site)

    It's embarrassing looking back at how people endlessly complained about every detail...I can imagine Ken Lilly got some gray hairs.

    I honestly don't think(this is to Dr Tooth) people these days have any clue as to how the toy industry works. I was just at Toys R Us and Target, what we have now are INSANELY dinky skinny cheap looking figures being sold for $10+. At least back in the late 90's and 2000's, we were getting big figures for the same price or less. Now, a lot of DC Direct, NECA, etc figures are $19.99. So while I have been long advocating a return to smaller figures...I didn't mean 1977 Love Boat/Star Wars sized. Heck, the Avatar and Marvel figures are super skinny and frail. I think the companies think kids and parents are idiots.

    Remember the size of early to mid 1990 figures? I liked those. Batman movie, Congo the movie, 92-95 era Xmen and Marvel figures. PERFECT size. Such good quality, I still play with mine from 15 years ago now and then, and they hold up well. These days, figures fall apart when you open the package(like Jazwares)

    NECA is good with one offs. Like doing one character from one movie, or two. They aren't good with expected series as you said. Though, that TRU exclusive ghost busters pack is amazing(not worth $65, however)

    btw, Dr Tooth...speaking of TRU, saw Mega Man #1 today:)

    But yeah, I could complain about the death of Palisades, Dream Wave and all the great early 2000's companies...but that time has passed
  7. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    Not to mention the constant price increases because of "Oh noez! Teh oils went up!" EVEN when the merchandise has been sitting on the store shelves and in the store for months. It's like they WANT the toy industry to crash. Dinky Star Wars figures shouldn't be anywhere near 12 bucks. And the collectible ones you need a second mortgage for. In this climate, there is NO WAY we'd get more than one or two waves if we're lucky of anything Palisades like.

    If anything, i at LEAST want a Disney Store figurine set. The sculpts are always good... paint jobs? well... not so much, but they still are very high quality for the price they offer. I have the Chicken Little set from years ago, and it was just masterfully done.
  8. beaker

    beaker Well-Known Member

    There's no doubt we'll get the pvc sets/ Though hey, wait when's the Star Wars figures coming out? I want like Hog Solo!

    Last year's November flagship didn't get much toy merch, probably due the thinking it should be more girl merch related...Princess and the Frog didn't get much either. That and, Mcdonalds stopped carrying Disney premiums. Toy Story 3 is the last time we've gotten action figures from a big Disney film. There was G Force, but Up nor Tangled nor Frog got much stuff.
  9. Dearth

    Dearth Well-Known Member

    Pushed back to the fall... which luckily puts it closer to the time of the movie hitting theatres.

  10. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    I'm so SICK of the cowardly refusal to put out McD's premiums due to backlash from lazy parental groups lead by hack doctors trying to say they went up against a big company in order to continue to overcharge their patients. Though THANKFULLY Diz has left the Marvel license alone. Still... I wish the Thor stuff at BK was better.
  11. muppetlover123

    muppetlover123 Well-Known Member

    Or like barbie and ken do a gary and mary set
  12. muppetlover123

    muppetlover123 Well-Known Member

    For the new muppet movie they could do 3 known charcters and 1 obscure one and a muppet movie playset And the figures based off the new puppets from the new movie

    Wave 1
    The Studabeaker from The Muppet Movie with kermit with his banjo

    Wave 2
    Uncle Deadly
    Happiness Hotel from The Great Muppet Caper with Pops action figure

    Wave 3
    Wedding scene from Muppets Take Manhatten with Tux Kermit and Wedding Dress Piggy

    Wave 4
    A Street from london or where most of the movie toke place from The Muppet Christmas Carol with a Charles Dickens Gonzo

    Wave 5
    Swedish Chef
    Nigel the conductor
    The pirate ship from Muppet Treasure Island with Statler and waldorf as the front of the boat statues

    Wave 6
    Gonzos alien spaceship from Muppets From Space with 2 or 3 alien Gonzos

    Wave 7
    Crazy Harry
    80's Robot
    The Abandoned Muppet theater from The Muppets with Walter

    Wave 8
    Lew Zeland
    Dr Strange Pork
    Marvin Suggs
    Vetrainerians Hospital

    Wave 9
    The Snowths
    Manah Manah
    The News Man
    Big Mean Carl
    The Electric Mayhem bus with Trumpet Girl and Dr Teeth

    Wave 10 : Muppet Monsters
    Timmy Monster
    The Muppet Show arches and logo

    Wave 11: The Moopets
    Kermit Moopet
    Miss Poogy (Miss Piggy Moopet)
    Rowlf Moopet
    Janice Moopet
    Fozzie Moopet
    The Muppet Theater Stage with Statler and Waldorf box

    Then for a Pack they could have Gary Mary and Tex Richman Set
  13. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    They have never made human figures in Muppet based toy lines. And I thank them for it. The only humans I've ever seen in Muppet lines were the original Sesame Street Little People and a Muppetized version of Mr.Noodle's Brother Mr. Noodle (I know the difference... it's the receding hair line... plain Mr. Noodle has a full head of hair).

    Kermit et al would sell much better than Tex Richman or Jason Segal (though if there was ever a How I Met Your Mother line of figures, I'd snatch him and Barney up... but I'd probably wait for the price to go down too long, and have to settle for a Robin). But I don't expect anything even as an iota as thorough as Palisades had. My Frog! 9 series of 4 figures? Nothing like that would fly today.
  14. muppetlover123

    muppetlover123 Well-Known Member

    well i meant like have mattel make like barbies of them you know
  15. muppetperson

    muppetperson Well-Known Member

    The toy company isnt that important.Just as long as we get figures and they are acurite interpretations and Palisades scale.I would like to see Walter and the Robot along with some of the reintroduced old characters like Wayne and Wanda,etc.
  16. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    But would they sell? That's the question. As I said earlier, Palisades came at a time when everything under the sun was an action figure, or called an action figure even if it was a statue (Cough cough MacFarline). AF's aren't the same as they were 10 years ago. Among other things, we'd wind up getting the standard line up of Kermit, Piggy, Animal and Maybe Fozzie and or Gonzo. And if those did well, we'd see maybe a couple others we already have seen. If we're lucky we might see Walter as a movie based character.... but that's if we got to Toy Story 3 levels of promotion. Not trying to be negative, just trying to be realistic. Plus, the price tag would be pretty hefty. The 10 bucks that it used to take to buy a Palisades Muppet figure doesn't even cover a skimpy Star Wars figure. Bandai's Retro Thundercats line costs 20 bucks for something the size of a He-Man figure.

    What I want at the very least is a small figurine set the quality of the deluxe The Lion King figurine set I saw at the Disney Store... that one was pretty inclusive.... I think it had at least 3 variations of Simba in it, along with every other major character from the movie (single or sharing a figure). I've noticed they had deluxe sets for Toy Story 3 and Cars 2 as well. The Lion King one looked VERY high quality, though. if we could only get a Muppet set like that, we'd be in business.
  17. beaker

    beaker Well-Known Member

    ANY word if there will be any Muppet toys this year other than the Star Wars ones at Disney Parks?
  18. Walter

    Walter Well-Known Member

    Hmm.. Not sure.. I'm going to be there around October 31, so I'll be sure to check the Muppet shop while im there. I am 90% sure any disney store plushes will be there..If there out by then.. one fan on this board said the Disney Store isn't set to have stuff delivered until THE TWENTY THIRD! That's crazy! I'm hoping it is just an estimate..

    Oh, and on a different note.. if anybody is looking for an Uncle Deadly figure accurate to the film.. I would try looking for Steppin out Uncle Deadly..he looks very close from what I've seen.... Is there any Bobo figures out there?? Sorry, I'm thinking out loud now:D
  19. Frogpuppeteer

    Frogpuppeteer Well-Known Member

    The Disney Store near me said the Bulk of Merch will be out the 23 no word on what really
  20. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    Bobo was one of those ones that wasn't even planned until a series after they stopped making them. A distant one at that.

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