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Interesting Fraggle Lyrics

Discussion in 'Fraggle Rock' started by Plaid Fraggle, Oct 28, 2012.

  1. Plaid Fraggle

    Plaid Fraggle Well-Known Member

    I want to start a thread where we can dissect songs a tad :D I love picking things apart, even the things I love--it's so fun!! I especially think it's interesting when the lyrics seem to veer from the world-building just a wee bit.

    So here goes: in the first "Convincing John" song of the show, CJ talks about a Fraggle turning into a "human bein' through and through!" I think it's notable that he says "human bein'" and not "Silly Creature," especially being that they've got the same number of syllables and seem pretty interchangeable. As far as I can remember, Fraggles have never called "Silly Creatures" humans at any other point, but they got away with it in song!

    They also refer to birds in at least a couple songs (Mokey sings about them having a skyway in 'Sunlight and Shadow' and Philo and Gunge talk about a 'boid' in 'Home'), but of course when they actually encounter one, they call it a Baby Tree Creature and not a bird :coy:

    There are lots of other lyrics that'd be fun to talk about. Anything you guys have ever noticed?
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  2. Vincent L

    Vincent L Well-Known Member

    Stuff Samba

    I always thought that the line "Every Thomas Dick and hairy-face baboon" is just weird.
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  3. Hubert

    Hubert Well-Known Member

    Maybe I can give that line some sense here.

    As you may or may not know, Tom, Dick and Harry are three names commonly used to refer to different people.

    "Just don't go out tellin' my secret to any old Tom, Dick, and Harry who walks in here!"

    So in this instance they are playing with that phrase a bit. They say Harry but turn it into an adjective so that it is a joint phrase between both a noun and an adjective. Its more for charm and humor if for anything.
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  4. Vincent L

    Vincent L Well-Known Member

    That makes sense now, thank you!
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  5. CensoredAlso

    CensoredAlso Well-Known Member

    I think the fact that the lyricist for Fraggle Rock was also a poet really helped make the songs uniquely surreal and intriguing. :)
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  6. Princeton

    Princeton Well-Known Member

    Also, in "Keep On Smilin'", Gobo mentions a Grizzly Bear and a Rhinoceros; how does he know what these things are (and by name, no less)?
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  7. Slackbot

    Slackbot Well-Known Member

    I've noticed that, when singing, Fraggles mention things that they should have no concepts of. Ice cream cones with zippers (Fraggles don't have freezers or the ability to manufacture zippers), highways, chicken stew, kangaroos, and so on. I just give them a bit of leeway when it comes to lyrics. They're inspired when they sing, and inspiration ain't always logical.

    That said, I'm working on a song for a Fraggle fic, and I'm definitely not going to let the character mention things that are outside his experience. I'd feel I was doing a sloppy job if I did.
  8. CensoredAlso

    CensoredAlso Well-Known Member

    On the other hand, to do so would be true to the series. ;)
  9. Slackbot

    Slackbot Well-Known Member

    I was about to rebut this for this particular character, but... I remember some songs in which he did that. Royal throne, eagle, cowboy... I could excuse the first two as things he might have been exposed to, in concept at least, but a cowboy would be stretching it.

    Ah well, I'll still keep it in focus for him 'cause that's my style!
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  10. Hubert

    Hubert Well-Known Member

    You know, the Tom, Dick and Harry thing got me thinking...its something that happens a lot in Fraggle lyrics where they blur different parts of speech and nonsense around and make a great song out of it.
  11. PanthraDion

    PanthraDion Well-Known Member

    In "Catch the Tail by the Tiger", Gobo sings "...and death and taxes and all." and "...a bird in need is a friend indeed," One, how are Fraggles supposed to know about taxes, and two, "...a bird in need is a friend indeed,"? What is that supposed to mean?
  12. Plaid Fraggle

    Plaid Fraggle Well-Known Member

    I have ALWAYS wondered that. I mean I get "A friend in need is a friend indeed," but they didn't really switch up that proverb in the same style as the rest of the song. They just stuck "bird" in there. (Which, as discussed above, is ANOTHER thing Fraggles of which don't have consistent knowledge :p)
  13. Slackbot

    Slackbot Well-Known Member

    Gobo is scrambling up various proverbs in that song, and in this case crossed "a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush" and "a friend in need is a friend indeed."
  14. Hubert

    Hubert Well-Known Member

    Which, again, proves to be another thing I love about Fraggle lyrics, they just throw out every existing lyrical rule and blur together sayings and biblical quotes and expressions and grammatical usage... :D
  15. Slackbot

    Slackbot Well-Known Member

    Fraggles aren't poets. They just sing what's on their mind. Which is good!
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  16. Hubert

    Hubert Well-Known Member

    It is. Though in a sense, it takes a good poet to blur all kinds of riddling together...

    ...they are poets and they don't know it! :p
  17. Plaid Fraggle

    Plaid Fraggle Well-Known Member

    Oh man, we've well established the fact that Fraggles don't know what they're singin' about, but I think the first one I ever noticed was...


    I seriously rewound that about eight times, like, "What??"
  18. Bliffenstimmers

    Bliffenstimmers Well-Known Member

    They'll do anything for a rhyme, I suppose.
    Trust me, I was just as confused as you were, the first time around I didn't even know what he was saying. Pig ice cream?
  19. Gonzo's Hobbit

    Gonzo's Hobbit Well-Known Member

    I thought about that at times too, about Fraggles mentioning stuff that they shouldn't normally know about. I'm guessing people weren't expecting others to be looking that deep into the songs. Personally I think doing that kinda takes the fun out of it.

    I finally looked up the lyrics to the Voodoo spell song from "Mokey then and Now." I finally found the right lyrics to this line "They are not afraid to promenade. They've got it made".
    For some reason I had always heard it as
    "They are not afraid to promenade digonically"
    And I always wondered what "digonically" meant.
  20. CensoredAlso

    CensoredAlso Well-Known Member

    Yeah I mean no offense to the artists but that was my first thought too, hehe.

    On the other hand, when you have a wild, free spirited group like the Fraggles anything pretty much goes.
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