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Discussion in 'Sesame Street' started by Hays, Oct 14, 2005.

  1. BEAR

    BEAR Active Member


    GeeBee, the last bit of my post was not really directed to you. It was just in general. Sorry if you thought i was singling you out cuz i was not in the least.
  2. GeeBee

    GeeBee New Member


    No offense taken. So far, I think this has just been a lively and interesting discussion. Good people can disagree.
  3. Rosewood

    Rosewood New Member

    Interesting thought.......

    That is an interesting, (and possibly more acurate), way of describing the "melting pot" of yesterday. I like it. Back when America was forming itself, the phrase "melting pot" did have more meaning. And I do understand the need for people of any culture to keep their identity first and formost in mind. I simply refered to things the way I did to emphasize what the word "American" truely means when refering to being an American citizen, (which is also why I included the legal part). It would be the same if you were describing the word "German", or "Canadian" or resident of any other country. Like you pointed out by quoting the song "My name is you", it shouldn't be a major issue where you or your past relations are from when it comes to the eye of the people of a country. When you are a legal resident who lives in and pays taxes to any country, you automatically take on the identity of being a resident there, no mater where your family tree spreads its roots back to. And in America, we who fall under that description are, indeed, Americans.
  4. BEAR

    BEAR Active Member

    Hmm...I wonder what Sam the Eagle would say about all this.:attitude:
  5. Rosewood

    Rosewood New Member

    That depends........

    I'd ask him personaly, but if he is still busy testing the soundness and durrability of life boats, I may not be able to get ahold of him to find out.;)
  6. BEAR

    BEAR Active Member

    No, he came back home after that and with a toupe no doubt. Of course he lost it once he realized it looked stupid.
  7. Ilikemuppets

    Ilikemuppets New Member

    First off, I like to say that Sesame Street in suppost to be represent a real inner city, New York City street,which many in New York are very diverse. Second, I'd like to say that America is even more diverse then it use to be, and I think the point that Hays was trying to make here is that, even thow you cannot possibly fit every single culture on the planet on the show, they could have some characters on the show(Like maybe a family or something) to acknowledge that this is whats happening in this country today, especally in New York.

    Besides, not only is Sesame Street about change, But the show has new characters all the time. It has been noted by the people at Sesame Workshop that the show is a brand new show every year, and that the show recreates itself every three years.

    While I here some people on here say that the adding on of the chacaters would take away the focus of teaching kids, I just saw the commercial with Oscar The Grouch and Maria eariler today, and Oscar said that one of the things that Sesame Street teaches kids is to respect the differences and opinions of others.

    I'd also like to add that while America in no longer a melting pod, it is a mosaic. When it was a melting pot, a lot of ethnic people just simply blended in with the American way of life, where as now, people from other countries not only blend in with the way of life, but they are also able to keep and maintain the cultural Identity.
  8. Rosewood

    Rosewood New Member

    Be it "melting pot", "tossed salad", "mosaic", or even a "melting pod": you could use a thousand different annalogies to describe America. But, when it comes right down to the bare facts, the final description is always basically the same when it comes to what America SHOULD be. The only thing that keeps America from fitting this description are people who chose to interperate its description based on their personal opinion, and people who chose to dissagree with its initial description in the first place.:attitude: This country could be a much greater and stronger place if its people could agree to set aside their personal differences when OUTSIDE of the home and place of worship, (where cultural identities and differences are based), and choose to unite as a single people; as "Americans".
  9. Rosewood

    Rosewood New Member

    You may get your wish yet

  10. BEAR

    BEAR Active Member

  11. Rosewood

    Rosewood New Member

  12. BEAR

    BEAR Active Member

  13. Rosewood

    Rosewood New Member

    Just keep watching

  14. BEAR

    BEAR Active Member

  15. Hays

    Hays New Member

    I'm not asking for representation of any one specific group; the ones I threw out there were suggestions. What I'm saying is that times have changed since the 60's - the minorities Sesame Street worked so carefully to represent are now pretty mainstream; others have dropped off the Street entirely.

    Because of that, I think we're losing an important element. I think it's vital for kids to learn that somebody who is different is an important part of the community. That, differences aside, we are all members of the same race: human. I also think that, because kids get more personally involved with the characters on the street, Sesame Street itself is where this lesson belongs.

    Kids, especially the inner city kids targeted by Sesame Street's original mission, need to learn this in order to be prepared for school, because in a large city their school is very likely to be diverse beyond Caucasians, African-Americans and Latinos.
  16. BEAR

    BEAR Active Member

    I also think though that for children we don't need to push it too much. They can learn and be exposed to this without even using the human characters. Pop in the Follow That Bird movie. That is what the whole thing is about without necessarily saying it.
  17. GeeBee

    GeeBee New Member

  18. Ilikemuppets

    Ilikemuppets New Member

    You can say it out loud and show it by example. People can set aside their differences Rosewood, but it is also important to respect the differences of others as well. But one of the things I respect about Sesame Street is that they do not just talk about it or show it, but they live it.

    Sometimes it is peoples opinions that help make this country what it is, and no two people in this world have the exact same opinion. It's not enought for people to just set aside there differences, but for people to see past as well as respect those differences in each other.

    Oscar said that one of the things that sesame teaches kids is to respect the differences of others(not Excluding anybody) and not to just set them aside. America is more about exception, not rejection, which is one of the reasons many people come to this country every year, from other places.

    The Grouch has spoken.:grouchy:
  19. Hays

    Hays New Member

    I'd settle for a muppet that doesn't speak ANY English or Spanish, or has some other difference, like can't hear or see. (If the Two-Headed Monster became a regular character that the other characters interacted with, that would work) They don't need to push it, but they do need to show it.

    Doing this, though, loses the benefit to kids who could identify directly, like I remember doing with Maria.
  20. BEAR

    BEAR Active Member


    Interesting idea there. Wasn't Mel a gibberish speaking monster?


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