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Mirror Mask

Discussion in 'Fantasy Worlds' started by Gelfling Girl, Nov 25, 2009.

  1. Gelfling Girl

    Gelfling Girl Active Member

    So, I was at Hot Topic earlier today, and I saw a Labyrinth tee-shirt, and somebody working there mentioned a movie called Mirror Mask. Has anybody here seen it? According to her, it was Henson, but I think I would have heard about it around here by now if it was.
  2. RedPiggy

    RedPiggy Well-Known Member

    I managed to catch it on youtube. It's very Labyrinth-esque, but it's unrelated (aside from some borrowed elements ... and I find it amusing that a circus performer juggles crystal balls but they don't show the face). Mirrormask kinda strikes me as Labyrinth: By Tim Burton. The heroine is a drawing fanatic who is, naturally, self-absorbed. She's pulled into her trippy drawings and must defeat an evil queen who makes Jareth seem downright happy-go-lucky. Sheesh, she's evil. The heroine is also replaced with her artistic doppleganger in the real world.

    I must say I liked some of the more creative elements (seems more like a cross between Dark Crystal and Neverending Story ... plus Labyrinth). I just wished the friend's issues later wasn't so transparent. I saw it coming a mile away. I also liked that the villain was, actually, villainous. I also liked that we see what's going on in the real world too. That's something that should have been in Labyrinth, in retrospect ... did Sarah's family just party and forget her while she was gone? Do parents not call home to check up on the kids?

    Yes, it was Henson.

    edit: Here it is.
  3. MrsPepper

    MrsPepper Active Member

    Well it's Jim Henson company but it was only made a few years ago. It's great if you love really strange fantasy, neil gaiman-like stuff. Definately check it out! It has a similar vibe to labyrinth except less 80's, and the protagonist is sort of the villain to herself rather than having a clear antagonist character... you'll see.
  4. Laszlo

    Laszlo Member

    I avoided watching it since it doesnt have any cute animatronics in it.
    But I may give it a try.
  5. Krazedmuppet

    Krazedmuppet Active Member


    It was weird and made you think a lot, it was beautiful and had a good message, and best of all IT WAS HENSON :) GO WATCH IT
  6. Skye

    Skye Active Member

    Back when this movie was first released, I was talking with a friend of mine, and he was telling me how much he loved this move, too. I have yet to see it myself, but it seems to be well-liked. Plus, it sounds pretty interesting!
  7. dwmckim

    dwmckim Well-Known Member

    MirrorMask came about as Jim Henson Company originally wanting to do a Labyrinth sequel but didn't have the budget at the time. Instead they chose to do something Labyrinth-inspired. There were a couple of making-of books about the movie you may want to hunt down - the team talk about how it much of it was written in Henson's London home surrounded by original Labyrinth artifacts.

    The film IS available on both dvd and Blu-Ray.
  8. hoopless

    hoopless Member

    funny you should mention neil gaiman-like stuff since it was actually co-written by him. I really enjoyed it having downloaded it earlier in the year out of curiosity. very arty and trippy.

    also it's got some good british talent in it.
  9. Laszlo

    Laszlo Member

    Just saw Mirror Mask. Well, I have to say it was one of the worst fantasy movies Ive ever seen. The lack of money is clearly visible in every frame and in the boring script. I also hated the visual "style"... it just looks cheap!
    Too bad, as I had high hopes for this one.
  10. Gelfling Girl

    Gelfling Girl Active Member

    I thought it was pretty good. I guess everyone has their own opinion.
  11. Krazedmuppet

    Krazedmuppet Active Member

    At first I thought the same thing, but really I think its supposed to look like that. Its supposed to look kinda 2d, like her drawings.
  12. Laszlo

    Laszlo Member

    Yes, I know. But IMO its just a cheap excuse. They thought: "Hey, we only got 1 Million to do a Labyrinth-like movie. Lets keep the design simple and cheap."
  13. RedPiggy

    RedPiggy Well-Known Member

    To be fair, Labyrinth looks cheap too. I like to think that the environment was influenced by Sarah's mind to look like a set (since she's into plays). If the "Cheapeast Muppet Movie Ever Made" uses a lack of a budget as the joke, are people going to gripe that it looks cheap?
  14. beaker

    beaker Well-Known Member

    @Lazlo, etc:

    While technically it may be a "Jim Henson Company film", its really
    a Dave Mckean film. It wasnt spose to have a classic Creature Shop look. If you go on youtube and type in "Dave Mckean short"
    youll see how MirrorMask looks EXACTLY like all his other amazing music videos and short films.

    MirrorMask was amazing, and as a huge Mckean fan since the late 1980's it was so great to see a feature film of his work. In fact I saw it twice in theaters, driving almost two hours the first time.

    Again, its really a film for fans of Neil Gaiman/Dave Mckean, and of surrealism than it is for people expecting Creature Shop. The look to me isnt cheap in the least, they could have had 300 million ala Avatar and I would have wanted it to have the same look.
    *just rewatched the dvd the other night*

    Also...Pan's Labyrinth while rather brutal at times, actually does have a bit of a creature shop feel to it.
    Nasubionna likes this.
  15. frogboy4

    frogboy4 Inactive Member

    I found MirrorMask to be beautiful, but self-indulgent and it marred the Jim Henson Company's motion picture cred for years. It's not a film in any legit narrative sense. It's an experimental artwork. That is the only way it works. It should never have been marketed as a movie. Neil Gaiman finally came back into this frogboy's good graces with last year's Coraline. Now that's a movie and a fantastic story.
  16. The Narrator

    The Narrator New Member

    I didn't mind MirrorMask and think it had some really nice scenes, but it was a movie best for "bits and pieces" rather than the whole for me. I rented it, but had no compulsion to buy it.

    ...It did offer a great rendition of "Close to You", if nothing else.
  17. DrmaticEmphasis

    DrmaticEmphasis New Member

    I enjoyed (though didnt LOVE) MirrorMask... Though I am a HUGE HUGE HUGE Neil Gaiman fan.
  18. beaker

    beaker Well-Known Member

    Well, it mostly played in art/indie theaters...and trust me, I've seen so many films at indie theaters that make MirrorMask seem like Rush Hour or Fast and the Furious. (once saw an 8 and a half hour art film with virtually no dialogue at the Castro called "The Cremaster Cycle", and then saw the followup to it "Drawing Restraint 9" at the SF MOMA)
  19. beaker

    beaker Well-Known Member

    Ok...I'll admit...despite seeing it twice and theaters and singing its praises for years...

    The first act of the film doesn't really grab me, and its not really until she goes into the alternate world that it really holds my interest. The Library scene, Close to you, and Floating Giants scene really blew me away.

    But its essentially a Dave Mckean film, and you can see his other shorts which look exactly like MirrorMask:
  20. Krazedmuppet

    Krazedmuppet Active Member

    Hey when you got a budget, you got a budget

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