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Muppet Babies DVD Box Sets

Discussion in 'Muppet Babies' started by erniebert1234ss, Aug 3, 2004.

  1. GonzoLeaper Active Member

    So I guess Disney basically needs to make a ton of phone calls to make this happen. I understand that artists all need to be paid for their work, certainly. I just don't know why it has to be so hard to negotiate agreements. All of the different parties involved need to find some way to work together and try to cut out some of the red tape so that it doesn't have to be a hassle everytime a company wants to release something to DVD.
    I don't know what the answer is, but while I can understand the concerns of making sure everyone get what's rightfully theirs, I also understand the frustrations of the consumers who can't understand why these parties can't figure something out and get these great shows on DVD. It's a shame that, ironically, the artistry of the show gets lost in trying to pay all the artists and copyright owners.
  2. MelissaY1 Well-Known Member

    Well, you'd understand it's a lot of tug of war if you were in the industry. I try to negotiate with my clients on a daily basis. Some are easy as pie to deal with, others, it's like pulling teeth and sometimes things happen, sometimes they don't.
  3. Drtooth Well-Known Member

    Well, the good news is there are a LOT of episodes in the last season that don't have such clips to renegotiate...

    Bad news is, those episodes tend to stink. Except who's tale is it anyway and Sing a Song of Heroes.

    All and all, if these things WERE to happen, we better not get syndication edited versions.
  4. MelissaY1 Well-Known Member

    I'd like to see the later ones as I watched it earlier in the series. I never saw when Bean Bunny and Statler & Waldorf show up.
  5. Drtooth Well-Known Member

    They're good... they're good... the animation's an eyesore, though. And that's sadly literal when it comes to how they drew Kermit at some points. But they're not as good as some of the ones produced in the beginning or middle of the series.

    Still... wonder what technicality allowed some episodes to go out with DVD's that came with plush. I forever will kick myself for not getting Baby Gonzo with the first Star Wars episode
  6. Redsonga Active Member

    I just need a DVD with Nanny's Day Off on it, it was my favorite episode :D..That, and maybe the one where one of them is afraid of the dark...I forget what that's called...
  7. unclematt Active Member

    I have been gone awhile... What are the odds of this actually happeneing?
  8. dwmckim Well-Known Member

    To quote Talking Heads, "Same as it ever was". It's inevitable we'll get Muppet Babies on dvd someday - but not for a couple years at earliest. The main reason we don't have any Muppet Babies stuff now is not so much because of rights clearances - but because the climax of a years-in-the-making Muppets relaunch is about to happen and they need to first get the classic Muppets (as their true selves) back in public consciousness before they bring back anything related to the Babies. There was a whole generation that grew up thinking the Muppets WERE the Babies (when the show was on the air and no other regular Muppet production was) It's going to take time for the movie and its aftermath to pound it home that (a) the Disney Muppet gang is not the Elmo and Big Bird group and (b) the Muppets are these felt all-ages characters and not the Muppet Babies. For those reasons alone, i just don't see the Muppet Babies vault being reopened til 2014 at the earliest. They're really a sensitive timebomb that has to be handled with extreme care before being unleashed again before causing mass destruction (and i'm not just talking about their diapers)
  9. unclematt Active Member

    You make some very valid points. I agree 100% that they should be relaunched in their tru form before we unleash the babies. If the film is succesful do you think there is a chance of an updated MB cartoon franchise. Maybe with more characters, maybe in a new setting, maybe with the return of Sceeter.
  10. Drtooth Well-Known Member

    That's the problem in a nutshell.... but to add to that, it's not like the kids who grew up with MB and the youngins they want to share it with aren't exactly getting any younger. MB kinda hurt the Muppet presence at the time, but it was also because it was the only Muppet production of the time that wasn't a TV special. I agree that getting them out now would screw things up (but so isn't NOT releasing the freaking season 4 already, dagnabbit), but when is a good time? Too much longer, DVD's will be out of there and the kids who would have had second hand appreciation for MB are going to be too old to appreciate it. And that's if the movie comes back a wise investment.

    I suggest reintroducing them slowly... well after the movie as a line of Baby goods... diapers, bibs, stuff like that. Then slowly work in preschool toys and nostalgic T's THEN try to get the series out there in some form or another. The children of yesterday are the parents of today... and those children watched Muppet Babies. The best audience they could get will slowly begin to wipe out, leaving way to people who grew up with a certain Purple menace. That thought scares me half to death.
  11. Redsonga Active Member

    Well, let's not forget that there are still not right now future moms of our generation like me who haven't had babies yet at all :p. So there will always be some market until we get into our 40's if not later ^.^ To say nothing of the fact that the group that will buy them anyway, even without kids yet is bigger than you would think ;3
  12. KermieBaby47 Well-Known Member

    I wonder if these seasons will be available soon through Disney's new MOD program? That's my biggest hope, besides finally getting to finish DuckTales and Rescue Rangers. :sympathy:
  13. Redsonga Active Member

    I'm not sure, Disney doesn't seem that much in a hurry to market anything animated, I think it will be a few years yet, and most likely they will be putting out all the classic muppet films again to go with the new movie. Maybe after that?
  14. Drtooth Well-Known Member

    I've said it before. Disney just sucks at releasing box sets. They don't even have any for Phineas and Ferb, and that would be a GOLD MINE! All I ever see are crummy 90 minute movie sized compilations of the show.

    I mean, I'm sort of grateful they bothered releasing unfinished sets of Darkwing, Ducktales, Rescue Rangers, Talespin and Gummi Bears, even though they were bare bones... but think about this:

    When they rereleased Lion King to DVD, they didn't bother with the Timon and Pumbaa cartoon, nor did they bother releasing Buzz Lightyear of Star Command when Toy Story 3 came out. In theaters OR DVD.

    Still, Diz managed to sub-license their TERRIBLE 00's era family sitcoms to Lionsgate. Why there's a call for According to Jim is beyond me. And why they don't do that with Disney shows (though they'd be claiming them up all over youtube... beats WMG doing it without actually releasing anything) is beyond me.
  15. Redsonga Active Member

    It's all about I think that they know people know their new series but they think that anything old isn't a 'sure thing'. The trouble is I wonder if they know how active sharing their 'unknown' series actually is... Muppet Babies is about as widely burned on DVR as The New Adventures Of WTP, if not moreso :\
  16. Drtooth Well-Known Member

    New series are NEVER a sure thing because they cost a royal fortune at retail (Almost 50 bucks for Two and a Half Men that you can see in syndication?), but when they do older series, depending on the license and cost, they're usually much cheaper. MB no doubt has a lot of issues with rights to begin with, but even then, Disney HATES box sets. There's a LOT of stuff they could make a small fortune off of. They have no shortage of old cartoons, most based on classic characters or movies that still hold up. But they couldn't even finish off fan favorite Gargoyles. So what does that tell you?
  17. scottishpiggy Member

    even if its recorded from TV - I got a set like that - and you discover despite owning 120 episodes, that most are doubles and a lot of episodes are missed. Im missing my favourite episodes frm my set such as transgo jobot, blue for you, weirdo (im going by songs here lol) and also the one where rowlf is the pied piper of hamster. Mibbe it comes down to all the film clips that are used which is why disney dont release them. But i think its more money - the just dont see the market
  18. scottishpiggy Member

    and now im gonna go watch the ones I have. Even If it is the same 6 episodes around 3 times each.... lol
  19. Drtooth Well-Known Member

    Disney doesn't think anything has a market unless it's a 90 minute movie. They refuse to release their hottest show on television, Phineas and Ferb in box sets or even collected volumes of more than 6 episodes... what does that tell you?
  20. scottishpiggy Member

    it tells me my loathing of disney is justified. :o

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