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Discussion in 'Classic Muppets' started by The Count, Feb 2, 2005.

  1. Tera

    Tera Well-Known Member

    Is Muppets on Wheels:Things that Go on the list? I looked for characters from it and didn't find them, but it could just be sleep deprivation.
  2. The Count

    The Count Moderator Staff Member

    Uh... Muppets on Wheels: Things that Go? Please explain, what is this? Is it a show, movie, TV special? Will wait on learning what this is before rendering sentence.
  3. Tera

    Tera Well-Known Member

    Muppets Sing Alongs: Muppets on Wheels (1995)

    It's a sing along hosted by Kermit that is paired with Muppets Sing Alongs: Things that Fly. It has Lindey, Roller Coaster dude, the contuctor, the engineer, and Jackey jack jackhammer.

    Are direct-to-video things on the list?
  4. MuppetDude

    MuppetDude Well-Known Member

    I don't see why not; there's several Muppets from videos, such as P.J., Kai-Lee, even Caroll Spinney's character Picklepuss, and the "Billy Bunny" gang. There could be a category for "MHV--Muppet Home Video", which was the original name for the line of Muppet videos.
  5. MuppetDude

    MuppetDude Well-Known Member

    WOOLY MONSTER also appeared in a few commercials, including one where he ate potato chips (his name was Arnold). He's also known as the Wheel-Stealer for another brand of chips.

    FRANK MONSTER is the shrunken puppet version of BD Monster (who shrinks during the sketch).

    Where should Big V be designated? The earliest I've seen him is on the Jack Paar Show.

    SOUR BIRD should probably be designated in the "Muppet Commercial" category.

    THE TRASH CAN MONSTER is actually three monsters that combine to make one monster. One is a short fuzzy orange creature with arms, another is a pair of eyes, and another is a tangle of dark green feathers and fur.

    And here's two more, from the Christmas sketch:

    SNERK--a blue Snerf with black eyebrows, a mouth, a tuft of light blue hair, and a green nose.

    SNORK--a blue Snerf with black eyebrows, a mouth, a tuft of light blue hair, and a green nose.

    Should "Twinkleclaws" be listed with ESS as well?
  6. The Count

    The Count Moderator Staff Member

    Heh, like how you guys keep me on my toes regarding my baby.
    1 All the stuff from Plaza Sésamo has been added and the accents for the already existing entries have been corrected, the total now stands at 3069.
    2 We agreed that all Muppet characters that showed up on the Ed Sullivan Show would be added under the designation "Muppets Magic & Ed Sullivan" didn't we? As far as I understand it, not all the Muppet characters that appeared on the Ed Sullivan Show were featured on the DVD. Some appearances were taken to make the DVD, though not all. Therefore, the characters who's sketches made it onto the DVD justify the "Muppets Magic" part of the designation; while those whose sketches weren't on the DVD but were indeed on the show justify the "Ed Sullivan" portion of the designation.
    3 As for what I'll include from the suggestions above, I'm going to go over those now and see what ends up getting added.
    4 Pardon for asking, but what designation does Big V currently have? If it's TMS, then it's probably cause the place where I found him was over at kermitage.com. Should it be changed to Muppets Magic & Ed Sullivan since it first appeared there and that's where it's most memorable appearance is from?
    5 As for characters already on the list that also appeared on Ed Sullivan...
    Twinkleclaws also appeared on SS per Muppet_dk's info.
    Have to go through the posts above to see what else needs clarifying.
    On the other hand, should there be three different entries for Wooly Monster, once for Ed Sullivan, and Arnold and Wheel Stealer as two different entries for Muppet Commercials?
    6 Gonna leave whatever may be referenced as Muppet Commercials off the list for now, till someone can step up with a fairly-complete list of those that should be added.
    7 As for MHV, not sure what if anything will be done with those. Like Muppet Commercials, if anyone can provide a fairly-complete list of who should be added under that heading, I'll take it into consideration.
    Hope to get some replies from you guys soon.
  7. muppet_dk

    muppet_dk Well-Known Member

    Seems like i good idea that I waited to respond to this thread.

    5: Yes he was used on SS. But his name comes from the ed sullivan show. Therefore you should list him with the ed sullivan designation insteed of SS

    7: I just got a copy of 4 of these tapes, and in the near future I will send you a list of the characters on them. Since I don't got all the tapes it can't be 100% complete, I think there's is around 10 tapes in the Play-a-long/Sing-a-long serie.
  8. The Count

    The Count Moderator Staff Member

    OK, thanks for checking in Muppet_dk. So, that takes care of Twinkleclaws. Should Big V be changed as well or left as is? Send what you have as soon as it's ready, always value what my trusted sources send me. BTW: Any luck with that pirate wolf from SS Germany?
  9. muppet_dk

    muppet_dk Well-Known Member

    hehe.......that's what I've forgotten...:zany:
  10. TotallySpiesFan

    TotallySpiesFan Well-Known Member

    Well...as a matter of fact, Big V should be listed with "Muppets Magic" and "Sesame Street", not "The Muppet Show". Twinkleclaws and the Piano (though already listed) should also be listed with "Muppets Magic" as well.
  11. The Count

    The Count Moderator Staff Member

    Twinkleclaws's designation has been changed already.
    When you say that the designation for the Piano should also be changed, are you refering to the one I have listed as from TMS? Cause that's the Piano from the Liberaci TMS episode and will keep its TMS designation.
    As for Big V, explain to me why it should be listed as you say. Are there two different versions of the same character which would merit two different entries? Just curious. Gonna sort through the rest of Muppets Magic and post once I've finished.
  12. MuppetDude

    MuppetDude Well-Known Member

    Since when did Big V appear on Sesame Street?
  13. The Count

    The Count Moderator Staff Member

    OK, here's what it is. Found the source site I got Big V from, Craig Silverstein's student website that gymkatarules pointed me to when I first joined up here at MC. The blurb states that Big V devoured Lenny the Lizard in the Rich Little TMS episode. Don't have that one yet, will though in the next batch of VCD's I'll get from Justin.
    Anyway, the feeling I get from having had talks with you guys here on the forums since then is that this TMS appearance is a recreation of the old Inchworm sketch where Kermit's sitting on the classic Muppet wall and eats an inchworm. He sees another one and eats it too. When he sees the third one, Kermit tugs at it only to find it's an elongated wormlike nose of Big V who devours him in turn.
    Not sure where this sketch eminated from, whether S&F or Ed Sullivan. Hoping for some help in correctly identifying Big V's Henson production of origin, or whether his current designation should be changed or not.
    Hope to hear from you guys soon and have a good day.
  14. muppet_dk

    muppet_dk Well-Known Member

    Big V was called Gorgon Heap when he was in the episode with vincent price. So you can change Big V from TMS to the muppet magic name.

    The piano from TMS was the same puppet that was used in the same skecth on the ed sullivan show that Twinkleclaws is in.
  15. The Count

    The Count Moderator Staff Member

    OK, thanks Muppet_dk. Big V's designation will be changed. Since the Piano was the self-same puppet, its TMS designation will stay.
  16. MuppetDude

    MuppetDude Well-Known Member

    I think "Inchworm" was featured on S&F first.
  17. The Count

    The Count Moderator Staff Member

    Yeah, that's what I thought given our conversations here on the boards. So, should Big V's designation be changed to S&F?
    Also, should the designations of the following characters be changed to Muppets Magic & Ed Sullivan or should they stay as is.
    Beautiful Day Monster.
    The Dancing Slinkies.
    Frank Monster.
    Mahna Mahna.
    The Snowths.
    Or is it that there was an earlier character by that name that was different from the characters already listed, and thus meritous of being added as a new distinct entry to the list? Hope to hear from you guys soon, and have a good day.
  18. MuppetDude

    MuppetDude Well-Known Member

    Beautiful Day Monster should stay with SS and TMS since he has made the most appearances on those shows.

    The Dancing Slinkies--there are two different versions; one white, and one purple/orange, so both should be counted.

    Frank Monster should stay in SS since he appears with the larger version of himself, meaning two different characters.

    Mahna Mahna appears more on TMS, so he should stay there.

    Scudge--Ed Sullivan. I've seen him on SS a couple of times, but I think of him as a more developed character in the ES sketch.

    The Snowths should stay with TMS.

    Thudge--I associate him more with ES than anything else. He was also probably built for that sketch.

    I'm not sure about Big V; he looks like he was built by Don Sahlin, whom Jim met after doing S&F. Maybe someone has seen him in an earlier production.
  19. TotallySpiesFan

    TotallySpiesFan Well-Known Member

    Big V, a Gorgon Heap precursor, was made for a sketch "Inchworm" in "The Jack Paar Show". According to the "Sesame Horror Theater" thread, Big V can be seen with Fuzzyface (a Grover precursor) and Kermit in a sketch "Kermit's Radio" on "Sesame Street" in 1969.
  20. The Count

    The Count Moderator Staff Member

    OK, then let's see. From what TSF submitted that's already on the list...
    There should be a second entry for the Dancing Slinkies from Ed Sullivan.
    There should be a second entry for Scudge from Ed Sullivan, or should it's designation be changed from SS to ES?
    There should be a second entry for Thudge from Ed Sullivan, or should it's designation be changed from The Great Santa Claus Switch to ES?
    This'd be the last bit of sorting needed to go ahead and add all I've gotten from you guys today.

    Oh yes, wanted to say that though the Prime Minister from S&F has been added, that same puppet was changed in appearance to be one of Amanda's Friends. So I'll go ahead and add them since they're two different characters, female compared to the male ones they later became. Hope to get replies to get this finished today. Thanks and have a great day.

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