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Muppet Robin Hood comic coming April 29, 2009

Discussion in 'Muppet Merchandise' started by GelflingWaldo, Feb 2, 2009.

  1. Amy

    Amy Well-Known Member

    Hey, don't blame me, my Robin Hood cover doesn't come along until issue 4! ;p

    Nah. It just depends on which stories are ready to be assigned artists and who is available who has been approved by Disney.
    I would have leapt on the chance to draw Robin Hood as I know Tim Beedle and have worked with him before, but Armand got in first and I was working on something else at the time.
    The artists on each Boom! title (Incredibles, Nemo, Muppets etc) have 'auditioned' and been approved by the appropriate Disney liasons. Disney approved me as a Muppet artist and Pan was the next cab off the ranks, so I was assigned to that.
    As for covers, they get assigned to whomever is available in the stable of artists when they need it, although usually the interior artist does at LEAST half the covers for their title. Some artists, like David Petersen and Cheeks Gallagher, are just doing covers but no interior art.
    I work fast, so I do a lot of covers as well as interior art on my own two comics.
  2. minor muppetz

    minor muppetz Well-Known Member

    Well, comic book resources has an 8-page preview for the comic book, and it looks good so far. There is one character who looks a bit like Fat Blue.
  3. grail

    grail Well-Known Member

    Don't forget to go get this today!

    I'm off work in about 5 minutes, and then I'm off to the comic shop for my fix. Thankfully, it's been on my pull list for awhile, and they pull me all the covers...because they know I'll buy them. The main cover was done by the guy who does a book called Mouse Guard, which I also highly recommend, and the final issue of its current miniseries is ALSO out today.

  4. frogboy4

    frogboy4 Inactive Member

    My day off was yesterday and indeed the comic was delayed a day so I just ordered mine from Boom! ;)
  5. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    I'm picking up at least one on the weekend. I ain't waiting a week again like the first time. But I just can't wait. This looks amazing.
  6. grail

    grail Well-Known Member

    Got it. Read it. Enjoyed it quite a bit!
  7. Hello all,

    David Petersen here, as mentioned earlier in this thread, I'm doing some of the Muppet covers for Boom.

    I wanted to thank everyone for the kind words about my covers.
    They were a blast to work on and I'm happy to say that I have more Muppet related work on my to-do list!

    Here are all 4 of my Muppet Robin Hood covers:

  8. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    Great stuff. I honestly wish I had the budget to get both covers of each issue... it's so hard to chose between them, since all you artists do such a great job.
  9. frogboy4

    frogboy4 Inactive Member

    I posted this in the other comic thread, but it's best placed here in the Robin Hood one.

    Gotta say, I just got the Robin Hood comic today and found it disappointing. I was so excited and wanted to really like this. Langridge's comics have unexpectedly raised the bar in ways that this initial Robin Hood offering by Beadle and Villavert Jr didn't deliver for me.

    The covers were beautiful, but the art inside left much to be desired. All the faces appear to have been flattened and Sweetums seems remarkably thin. I do like how Janice is handled. I'd just rather have an artist a little better suited to the Muppets handle the visuals. Art C-

    There were some clever jokes here and there, but the panels were rather wordy for such little substance they contained. It just didn't feel that Muppety to me. I hope the next one gets better. So far this issue seems a little more middling fan-art than officially endorsed material. Story C+

    Overall C :sympathy:

    I know the Peter Pan stories will be beautifully illustrated. This is the tale I'm looking forward to reading. ;)

    By the way, it takes up to three weeks to get these from the Boom website. I'll be better about picking them up in the stores.
  10. theprawncracker

    theprawncracker Well-Known Member

    This fact has been driving me NUTS. The shipping time is terrible and I'm growing really impatient--my local comic shop is terrible about stocking them and the owner is kind of rude. Oh well!
  11. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    I see what you mean, though I really loved it. We all know the Robin Hood story gets better and more exciting as it goes on, so I wouldn't say future issues wouldn't have a much better story line. I think Langridge has had more experience working with the subject matter, and that has worked out to the advantage of the Muppet Show Comic book. Plus, he had a longer period of preview material that got critiqued... and he clearly listened.

    You gotta admit, the subtleties of adding older characters... I swear that was Hilda as Maid Piggy's...uh... maid? Personal Assistant? (what do you call those things?)
  12. frogboy4

    frogboy4 Inactive Member

    Hilda was a nice touch, but they just don't give her much to do or say that's either funny or substantial. It's just the story doesn't go anywhere. The art also kind of reminds me of the Labyrinth mangas with the attractive covers and unfortunate page art.

    I just found this offering dull. This could almost have any characters plugged into the roles. Sure, they mention an obvious thing like Rowlf plays the piano and Lew loves fish, but their personalities aren’t there and the dialogue is pedestrian. The Janice “herb” comment was just so on-the-nose. I’m kind of irritated about the level of mediocrity here when we’ve seen this done much better. The Muppets are bright and colorful, fun and witty. Not to mention much more visually dynamic than this.

    I know Boom’s aim here is at kids, but honestly, I don’t know who this comic is aimed at. I’ll collect the series if just to support the Muppets and the cover artists, but I have higher hopes for Pan and Peg Leg. This Robin Hood just seems like all the other bland Muppet stuff that kind of rubbed me the wrong way over the years. Just not as good. :smirk:

    I wish they'd used any one of the cover artists for the body of the comic. The art here is rather stiff and unattractive.
  13. frogboy4

    frogboy4 Inactive Member

    Double post
  14. theprawncracker

    theprawncracker Well-Known Member

    Jamie, for once I'm going to have to respectfully disagree with you. I really, really enjoyed Robin Hood. I thought it was very Muppety--Gonzo was great, Sam was awesome, Janice was spot on, Robin was surprisingly perfect, and Sweetums was very funny. Louis Kazagger cameo, Hilda, Rizzo... everything was awesome. I think my favorite exchange was Kermit and Scooter's argument about the Hood portion of Robin Hood. I really liked it and can't wait to see what further issues hold as more and more characters appear! :D
  15. frogboy4

    frogboy4 Inactive Member

    How do you think they looked?

    Also, what line seemed like it was in the voice of Gonzo? Few of the lines seemed character specific aside from Sam's line that was lifted from Muppet Christmas Carol. Guess I just don't see any of the Muppetyness beyond the slick covers.

    Yes, the hood comment at the end it the highlight of the comic. That was funny and in character. ;)
  16. theprawncracker

    theprawncracker Well-Known Member

    I thought they looked pretty good. I think they could've been much more animated... and more vibrant colors would've helped, I think. But I thought overall they looked good. Sort of weird, but good. I still prefer Langdrige's, but I MUCH prefer the upcoming Peter Pan artwork to both.

    I thought Gonzo was very in-character when he was stuck on the windmill, that was great. Also when he rushed for Kermit's autograph... and I really liked his fight with Kermit. (Thought I thought he looked hideous drawn... and we thought Langridge's Gonzo was bad!).

    I agree that the Hood argument was the highlight for me too. I thought the opening was rather weak, but by the end of the comic it got much, much better--and I only think it'll get better as the issues progress.
  17. frogboy4

    frogboy4 Inactive Member

    The relentless title card opening set a sour tone for me. I kind of wish the comic story would have started where it ended with the Scooter portion.

    Janice is drawn nicely and I adore her inclusion in anything. However, it might just be that there are two Cannabis clubs on my street, but I found her drug reference to "herb" to be less sly and out of place. It's also said by the usually monosyllabic Sweetums. He's uncharacteristically chatty here. Much of that portion just rubbed me the wrong way. Classic Muppet humor has a sly wit (especially with the Mayhem) where most of this seemed to be on-the-nose. I don't know if it upsets me because it's an obvious drug reference or that it isn't funny. :flirt:

    It's the first offering so maybe it does hit its stride in the second issue. I still don't see any Gonzoisms but that could be in the eye of the beholder. I suppose since he's my favorite character I expect some really wild zaniness. The thing is, we've seen some really excellent stuff in Muppet comics by way of writing and illustration. The bar is higher.

    I didn’t hate it, just felt it to be disappointing. I waited three weeks for this and walked down to the post office to pick it up with three different cover variations. Nonetheless, it’s good that this is even out there to discuss. Not every piece of this Muppet Renaissance is going to be a homerun. :cool:
  18. Amy

    Amy Well-Known Member

    Absolutely, and it's a risk any fan of ANY fandom will take whenever spinoff properties are concerned.

    I know both Armand Villavert and Tim Beedle and they're both awesome guys. I have read the script for #4 and think it's **** hilarious. I would jump at the chance to draw a Tim Beedle Muppet story and have made that wish loud and clear to my editor ;)

    A comic will work for some people and not others, you can't please everybody and there's no crime in that. A script can look awesome on the page, but it's entirely possible an artist will fall just a little short of really bringing that funny to fruition. It's very much a magical combination when an artist and a writer end up on the same page and the results are great.
    I'm only too well aware of the huge expectations the die-hard Muppet fans have of how they want to see these beloved characters. But as a professional, I can't let fans totally dictate my treatment, because that way just leads to madness. Ultimately, I draw on my own inner Muppet fan to tell me how these characters should act and look. How would Jim do This? is my mantra.
    Some fans may HATE how Muppet Peter Pan may end up looking and I can't help that. All I can do as a creator is reassure everyone that I AM a Henson fan and want to respect his legacy as much as possible.
  19. frogboy4

    frogboy4 Inactive Member

    I absolutely love how you draw Kermit. It's hard not to smile when I look at him and that's exactly the feeling that happens when watching the live action Kermit. Your stuff looks amazing and it appears that the writing has a Muppety perspective too so I'm not concerned about Pan.

    I'm looking forward to seeing what will happen with Robin Hood, but don't expect too much. It hasn't tarnished the Muppets to me at all. It's good, but Langridge's first arc was so Muppety the bar has been raised really high. Maybe the first issue of Hood would have seemed better if it had come out before the rest of this wonderful work.

    I'll say some things I liked about Hood:
    -The covers. The Alvarez is my favorite, but all the #1 covers were top notch.
    -Gonzo's Chicken and Sam's Horse were very fitting for the characters.
    -Gonzo's costume resembled his classic tux colors.
    -Hilda! (It made me overlook the fact that Miss Piggy resembled Kirsty Alley...she does...look at it again)
    -The drawing of Janice is particularly lovely
    -The Scooter hood joke was funny and Muppety (and where I wish the story would have started). Also, any story with Scooter gets points from me. ;)
  20. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    I really think there's more to be expected as it goes on. The one problem with Robin Hood #1 for me was that it basically established characters. There wasn't any real action except for Robin's meeting of the Sheriff and Guy and the iconic sequence where Robin fights little John. I cannot wait to see other iconic, more action based scenes.... we all know about the archery contest that's been in every version and parody of Robin Hood... from Peabody's Improbable History to ALFtales, all had very unique spins on it. I'm anticipating something wonderfully Muppety will happen there.

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