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Muppet Show Season 4 coming in 2013

Discussion in 'Muppet Merchandise' started by Traveling Matt, Apr 7, 2009.

  1. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    No. And the worst part is, when season 3 was about to come out, we had someone actually get in contact with someone from Disney about that release, and how they couldn't get certain things as special features on the disk (like the NASA wake up call from Pigs in Space)... the only rumor is that certain songs have to be renegotiated through Michael Jackson's estate... and we all know how stubborn estates can be.

    I don't see why they couldn't tell us if this project is STILL going to happen, or if it's on indefinite hiatus. At least be straight with us. If the news is bad, I guess we can handle it IF they at least tell us what it is.

    If they're just holding it out for the movie (and I hope that's the only problem), I STILL don't see why season 5 or even a complete series collection couldn't do the same promotional job.
  2. minor muppetz

    minor muppetz Well-Known Member

    Or, if they couldn't get all music from season 5 cleared in time, they could have done some single-disc family market releases of already-released episodes. Or, for a better alternative, release some existing Muppet specials, like The Muppets Go to the Movies or The Muppets at Walt Disney World, or perhaps a 2-disc "Tales from Muppetland" set.
  3. zns

    zns Well-Known Member

    Something tells me that someone else on this thread knows all the details more than we do. :smirk:
  4. LamangoNumber2

    LamangoNumber2 Active Member

    I have a feeling that Disney may be talking to Gabe Newell of Valve... Never releasing a certain part of the franchise....
  5. muppet baby

    muppet baby Active Member

    I have to still say that the muppet show is still my all time faverite henson show and i did see all of them but i do not remmeber any Michel jackson songs in the Muppet Show and i love his music Could you tell me Dr tooth what those are in season 4 , i really love Micheal and if there is some songs of his in the muppet show i hope they can put it on the DVD release if they do not that would be really sad .

    I know they had to cut some things from season 1 i hope that they can get those things settled , and then do a re release of season 1 on DVD or have a blu ray release of that . and all of the Muppet show with no more non complete episodes but we did get a blu ray release of the show with the episodes not being complete i can live with that , it would be so good to have a blu ray release no matter what because of the fact that , everything , is going to have to go to blu ray at some point and DVD will be going out in the next several years as the same thing happened with VHS being taken out by DVD .

    The Muppet's are popular as they where in 80s and so glad that Disney bought them and will give the merchandise credit they deserve . Does anyone agree with this ?

    BLu ray are much better quit due to hi def and also the discs are smaller and cases are better for storage and are not as likely to get scratched .
  6. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    Michael Jackson owns a LOT of songs he didn't write, specifically Beatles ones... that's one of the reasons why Beatles songs weren't on iTunes for a while. At least that's the rumor... that they have to renegotiate songs he bought the rights to.

    Now, I must insist that if no one has any REAL news or REAL updates or even a REAL case of the hold up, PLEASE do not post anymore in this thread. What's worse that something taking forever to happen? Endless comments about how it's taking forever.
  7. David French

    David French Active Member

    The issue with Beatles music concerned the use of original tracks as opposed to covers, so I think we can knock that rumour on the head once and for all.
  8. dwmckim

    dwmckim Well-Known Member

    Marvin Suggs: "I zought you'd nevair ASK!"

    (Starts hitting Muppephones to the tune of Oob La De which ends up sounding more like OOH! AH! EE! OHH! AH! AAAAH!)
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  9. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    If that is indeed true, there was no excuse, movie or not, to sit on the release for over a year, especially since we already had to wait 2 years for it to come out. For the 1000000000000th time, there ARE 5 seasons, re-releasing the movies, Muppets Tonight, prospects of complete series sets and individual disk best ofs. There's NO reason any of those couldn't have promoted the film the same way, especially since it was announced at the D23 that it WAS coming out last year back in 2009.

    So far, we've seen everything else they announced, the Uglydolls, the Cat Cora thing... but no DVD set. Again, movie or NO movie, unless there's a rights hold up on another front, there was no reason to drag their feet. These things actually sell, unlike the just released sets of sitcoms that haven't even had the chance to get on reruns by the time they come out. Or bad Food network shows.
  10. Is there an email address that we can write to, to show Disney how much we want this?
  11. zns

    zns Well-Known Member

    There has to be. Someone like Phil Chapman must know how.
  12. TikiColadas

    TikiColadas Active Member

    Gonzo would work for me! I just want season 4 already!!
  13. MelissaY1

    MelissaY1 Well-Known Member

    I told you, Dr. Tooth, it has to be one of two things: the music rights or George Lucas' company holding things up due to the Star Wars episode. I know Lucas and Henson were friends but business and legal matters are another thing entirely. I agree the wait for this has been frustrating and somewhat ridiculous but Paramount took forever in between releasing season sets of "Taxi" and it's been about 2-3 years now since they put out Family Ties "Season 5". I'm still waiting for 6 and 7. But what are we gonna do? To quote Kermit towards the end of the Muppet Movie when they're in Lew Lord's waiting area "Let's just sit here and wait".
  14. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    Yes, but it isn't just Henson and Lucas... Lucas has a good relationship with Henson AND Disney. After all, Lucas may be able to withhold the characters for the video, but that doesn't make sense at a business angle, especially with a renovated theme park attraction AND using the characters from the movie to promote it in commercials. on the one hand, it could sour the relationship, on the other hand, Disney could twist his arm.

    There would be a chance Lucas wanted more money for the rights to the characters for a one episode video appearance than Disney was able to give him... but considering they hammered out song rights for the last 2 seasons they clearly had a plan for that. Besides, worse comes to worst, they can always exclude one episode like they did with the clumsy The Tick releases.

    It's not that I wouldn't doubt it if you are right, but from a standpoint you can see why I question that.

    And I still think something went down with John Denver's estate.
  15. MelissaY1

    MelissaY1 Well-Known Member

    I don't think Lucas' arm can be twisted very easily in my opinion. He's still stubborn enough where he won't release the original 3 Star Wars films the way they were originally shown in theaters in the late 70's because he claims "it wasn't the film he wanted to do at the time". Which I get from a creative standpoint that there's no technology and you wanna tweak them to your vision and whatnot, but for the fans who grew up with the film from that era, throw them a bone. I get annoyed whenever I hear about the Star Wars stuff and I'm not even a fan of the franchise LOL

    I wouldn't doubt John Denver's estate could've been an issue too. We still don't have an official release of the Christmas special the Muppets did with him, and I'm sure that's a whole other level of music rights, etc. with his stuff too.
  16. CensoredAlso

    CensoredAlso Well-Known Member

    Oh don't even get me started, lol.
  17. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    He could have easily refused Sesame Workshop to use the characters as well, but he didn't. I would say if he was stuck in that mindset, we wouldn't have got it on the Sony released ones as well. There is a chance it COULD be a possibility, but I don't think a strong one. Why would he want to hurt a relationship with Disney if it makes him some money?

    Plus, again, we could easily have the set with the episode missing.
  18. Duke Remington

    Duke Remington Well-Known Member

    (sigh) If only Steve Swanson of The MuppetCast could get a new interview with Lyelle Brier, so he could ask her why TMS Season 4 has been delayed...
  19. MelissaY1

    MelissaY1 Well-Known Member

    LOL does that mean you're for or against, heralde? :)
  20. MelissaY1

    MelissaY1 Well-Known Member

    Yeah, but that episode would be a big selling point, because then you'd have all the Star Wars fans buying the set too. I'm not saying he' d WANT to hurt the relationship, but when it comes to money, people get funny about stuff. Haven't you ever had someone pass on in your family and it turned into a nightmare because of who left what to who, who wanted this after they died, etc? Money brings out the worst in people.

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