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Muppets resurgence at Disney's California Adventure

Discussion in 'Muppet Headlines' started by Phillip, Feb 4, 2004.

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Should Henson get more involved with Disney?

Poll closed May 4, 2004.
  1. Yes, now is the perfect time

    25 vote(s)
    28.7%
  2. Maybe, if it's their best or only option

    37 vote(s)
    42.5%
  3. No, Henson should stay away at all costs

    25 vote(s)
    28.7%

  1. Phillip

    Phillip Administrator Staff Member

    Bean Bunny mentioned this over at the Palisades forum...

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    What do you guys make of this? Of most interest is the comment on this page...

    "Isaac Martin spotted a Miss Piggy walkabout at California Adventure. It was rumored after the Pixar fiasco that Disney will now refocus on what Henson properties it now has, and look to expand the relationship again."

    http://www.miceage.com/allutz/al020304a.htm

    Photo of Miss Piggy walkaround at California Adventure...

    http://miceage.skyfirehosting.com/al020304pics/al020304e.jpg
  2. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    I think they should wait it out until Eisner is kicked to the curb. I feel the partnership could breathe new life into the Muppets (projectwise) if properly handled.
  3. zootsuit

    zootsuit New Member

    I agree.I think disney and the muppets are good for each other and i've enjoyed their collaborations in the past...but youre right , wait until eisners outta there. And any one who owns shares should go to the share holders meeting to make sure that happens.
  4. BoyRaisin2

    BoyRaisin2 Active Member

    Yes, Disney and Henson should expand their relationship. Disney has had a bigger interest in the Muppets than anyone else, and Henson NEEDS a partner so they can get back on track.

    As for Eisner, I am not anti-Eisner, but he just needs to go. I think he has just lost his way in the past few years and the Disney Company needs new leadership before their reputation gets any worse.
  5. jzion12345

    jzion12345 New Member

    AMEN! The Muppets, and the Jim Henson Company in general, needs one single outlet for their TV programming and movies. Disney is perfect. Since Pixar is not under the Disney umbrella anymore, I think Henson is a perfect replacement. Personally, I think Pixar is making a huge mistake by not continuing with the juggernaut that is Disney promotions. Look at what it got them: Big Box Office returns, promotional deals such as Disney on Ice, Disney Store, Disney Channel, ABC, Video Games, etc...Where else are you going to find that kind of a juggernaut that has a fan base that will buy anything Disney? Nowhere. Henson is walking into a great situation. I think they'll recover and make lots of money off of this.
  6. Beebers

    Beebers New Member


    Very nicely put.

    :cool:


    I particularly love the visual of Eisner being kicked to the curb, perhaps left sitting there next to his Mercedes. Or Bentley. Whatever it is he drives.

    :D
  7. King Prawn

    King Prawn New Member

    I think they should go for it, now might not be the best time for Disney but I don't really see this effecting the Muppets. Although I wouldn't want Disney to buy the Muppet I still wouldn't mind a partnership of some kind.
  8. count_that_bear

    count_that_bear New Member

    I completely agree, just look at what Disney and Henson have done for each other in the past...BEAR FOR 1!!! hopefully Disney will be a big help in getting muppet movies back on the big screen where they belong, and Henson will bring much needed originality and life back to the Walt Disney company.
  9. Luke

    Luke Active Member

    I agree with Boyraisin - and i don't mind whether they are Eisnerless or not. The pairing is obviously much needed - Henson can't afford right now for any project not to do well and one slip up could make them toast. Putting Disney in the mix (although with a Pixar type deal - not ownership) will give them the freedom to try new things and more opportunity to use what they've got.
  10. rexcrk

    rexcrk Active Member

    I'd say yes, except, for some reason, I can almost see Disney kind of "ruining" the Muppets. Maybe "ruining" isn't the best word, but Disney hasn't really put out anything *great* lately. But then again, the Muppets would certainly help Disney and Vice Versa...
  11. CrockAlley

    CrockAlley New Member

    I think Disney, as with Sony, Time Warner, etc, is a faceless corporation out for money, and Henson can do no good teaming up with them. It's sad to think that the creative genius of Henson is reliant on the finacial support of larger business, only because said business have squashed out any competeing smaller businesses. Companies like Disney (and their cheap $$-grubbing tactics) are the reason that companies like Henson are struggling.
  12. beaker

    beaker Well-Known Member

    Phil, all I know for certain is that related pic on the front of MC's main page is most ghastly. ^___^
  13. Luke

    Luke Active Member

    Yeah there's something about that picture isn't there? Heather, Lisa, John and Cheryl all look like they're having fun but its a shame Brian Henson didn't turn up for the photocall! :eek:


  14. I completly agree with this :concern:
  15. prawncracker

    prawncracker New Member

    disney is ok ....ok

    I would have to say it is ok with me. unless we get our own muppetland opening soon i say ride those coat tails. let them carry the burden so we can go and enjoy our muppens ok :rolleyes:
  16. RockSTAR girl

    RockSTAR girl Member

    oh wow my two favorite websites are talkin about my 2 fave topics. yay. i think henson really needs this right now. i mean yeah with the monumental success of their food commercials Hensons rollin' in the dough. ::sarcasm::. but this could really bring them back to the spotlight. we've already seen how much disney can do for something such as 'a bugs land' for Pixar's "a bugs life." could you imagine what they could do for the muppets? it would be a dream come true to have anything near to that for kermit and co. (minus the devotion to kiddie rides) the real question is Can it happen? can disney and henson finally work out a plan that would suit the both of them? i think we'll all have to see at this point, but i would be 99% behind them if they choose to give it another shot. :excited:
  17. Bean Bunny

    Bean Bunny New Member

    Phil,

    Did that picture come form "Here Come The Muppets" that used to be at the Disney MGM Studio? If so, do have more picutres? I was at opening day for "Here Come Muppets" and the "Ninja Turtles" at the Disney MGM Studio way back in 1990. I took some pictures but they didn't turn out to well and that I was young back then.

    Any who back to the regularly schduled topic.

    P.S. I believe that an old issue of Mickey Mouse Magazine from 1989 or 1990 had a huge artilce about the Muppet coming to Disney. There was even a comic in the magazine with both Disney and Muppets character interacting. I will try to see if I can find it.
  18. BoyRaisin2

    BoyRaisin2 Active Member

    Please do, Bean. Please do. :)

    I just wonder if this will be IT. Could Disney and Henson finally have some sort of partnership which we have been speculating about for the past many years???

    I doubt it.
  19. The Frog Prince

    The Frog Prince New Member

    I really hope that Henson and Disney can have a great working relationship. While there are +'s and -'s to working with Disney, I really would like to see the Muppets have more of a presence at the Disney theme parks. I absolutely love MuppetVision 3D and I loved Here Come the Muppets Live Stageshow when they did that. The waiting area was so cool. Bear in the Big Blue House is a great success. They have media outlets that can give them exposure. I wonder, with the ABC execs there now, if Muppets Tonight would last if it were on today? They renewed all their new sitcom shows, even It's All Relative. Seems that they want to give programs a shot. I have been very pleased though with Columbia's Henson video releases, like Rocky Mountain Holiday and such. I was very sad to see that Pixar is leaving Disney. Disney has a history and familiarity with public that is comforting. Although they have gotten off track, Disney was a great fit for Pixar's movies and characters. They got life in themeparks, spinoff cartoons, and merchandise. Disney was stupid to let the Muppets and Pixar get away from them in order to save some cash. They will pay for it in the long run.
  20. alorindanya

    alorindanya Member

    Go for it.

    Having worked at Muppet Vision 3D for a few months, I SO would love Disney and the Henson Co. to get back together. Financially, it is a must for both parties. However, Disney cannot control the Muppets. Murge, but don't kill the creativity.


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