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Muppets Season 4... Good News and bad news

Discussion in 'Muppet Merchandise' started by Drtooth, Apr 7, 2009.

  1. Nick22

    Nick22 Active Member

    it's so weird that just next year it will be 2010. i hope the dvd has lots of cool special features. i haven't got any of the other season yet. i cant seem to find em anywhere in stores, and i dont feel like shopping online. thats all i ever do. but at least we have things to look forward to this year. like the halloween special, LTS on dvd. look at the positives. at leats thats what im trying to do
     
  2. pete1974

    pete1974 New Member

    I've often thought that there's a special place in **** reserved for music licensing lawyers :mad:
     
  3. dwayne1115

    dwayne1115 Well-Known Member

    Sounds to me like you know some personaly.
     
  4. beaker

    beaker Well-Known Member

    So...when is Disney going to release Muppets @ Walt Disney World
    or Muppets Tonight(Disney's ABC/Disney Channel)? :)

    Hey, remember we had the Ed Sullivan Best of the Muppets, so anything can happen.

    (Of course someday Id love to see the Muppet portions of the Jim Henson Hour on dvd...I can dream at least!)
     
  5. beaker

    beaker Well-Known Member

    Thats the problem with Muppetdom, and the underground following(I bet even the long cancelled and shortlived Firefly has a bigger online fan following I hate to say than the Muppets do)
    we're apart of. For years, we lower our heads and say "well....um, at least there's a calendar, a box set and a limited edition bust to look forward to this year".

    Im looking forward to the day when were just absolutely awash...nay, saturated with too much awesome Muppets and Muppety(Fraggle Rock, HA! brand, etc) projects/merchandise/happenings. The theatrical Muppet movie, Fraggle movie, even that long awaited Dark Crystal sequel. Thats what Im talking about. I hope at least Sid the Science Kid and Pajanimals takes off, and theres hope for the Doozer series.
     
  6. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    Yes.... Batman and the Wonder Years are prime examples. They'd come down on people who sell bootlegs or put them up on a video site like a ton of bricks, but they wouldn't want to actually tangle with multiple copyright claims. I'm so glad that Warners and Amblin set aside their differences and got us all those great Steven Spielberg Presents cartoons of the 90's.

    They say that MT may likely get a shot after TMS is released. I'd say, expect it in 2025 :coy:

    Tell me about it. Remember 2002-2004, when we had all that merchandise that you couldn't decide what you wanted, and people mainly just got the action figure line? I really think that line and VMX brought the interest in the property back (take a wild guess what project I blame for the shut out). Things are definitely looking up. an FR movie, a new Muppet THEATRICAL movie and all these great side projects by Henson. That stuff was inconceivable 4 years ago during the drought caused by OZ.

    That said, I still think music rights in this country are insane. Look at what those greedy old biddies that own "Happy Birthday" did to Sesame Street.
     
  7. MelissaY1

    MelissaY1 Well-Known Member

    I can almost guarantee the two reasons for the long delay in Season 4 coming out: either more red tape for music copyright licenses, or because the Star Wars episode is in this season and Lucas' company is delaying the process somehow.
     
  8. bazooka_beak

    bazooka_beak Active Member

    And don't get me started on Daria. It's enough to make anyone scream!

    Anyway, 2010? That's quite a wait! Or maybe it isn't... I'm getting old and time flies so fast... it feels like it was 1999 just yesterday :sympathy:
     
  9. heralde

    heralde Well-Known Member

    Well I mean I understand that works of art need to be protected. But it gets to the point where copyright laws are preventing them from even being seen at all!
     
  10. Bill Bubble Guy

    Bill Bubble Guy Active Member

    But surely George Lucas wouldn't actually deny the inclusion of that episode on our beloved season 4 release, would he?

    After all he had to have given his permission for it to be made in the first place. You'd expect that they could easily negotiate a DVD release of it. Besides wasn't it previously released as part of the Time-Life collection?
     
  11. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    And even if they did need to negotiate, George Lucas and Disney have a GREAT relationship. How else could there be all that great Disney Star Tours merchandise, with Mickey as Darth Maul and all that? Lucas also has a good relationship with Henson, which is why he agreed to do the show in the first place. There might be a monetary bidding process that ties it up, but I doubt Lucas would want to hide that episode away.
     
  12. Elmo The Second

    Elmo The Second New Member

    I agree :). It's not like they're canceling. I t Would be nice to have ''of Muppets and Men'' with some new interviews:crazy:
     
  13. Nick22

    Nick22 Active Member

    that'd be awesome! and it would be worth the wait too!
     
  14. pete1974

    pete1974 New Member

    It's not like it's "The Star Wars Holiday Special" or something ;)
     
  15. MelissaY1

    MelissaY1 Well-Known Member

    I'm not saying he'd deny it but there might be some legal stuff involved that is delaying the process. I don't think they just call him up and say Can we put this on the DVD, Mr. Lucas? and he just says yes or no. I think there's probably some royalty stuff involved.

    Yes it was on the Time Life DVDs, but so was the You've Got a Friend number with Vincent Price from Season 1, that was omitted on the Disney release. So, just was because it was on there doesn't guarantee it to be on these releases unfortunately :( That's why I'm still hanging onto those Time Life DVDs.
     
  16. MelissaY1

    MelissaY1 Well-Known Member

    Exactly, Dr. Tooth. I'm sure it has nothing to do with George Lucas personally. Probably just some legal stuff delaying it. I don't think Lucas is embarrassed by that episode at all. They did a great job of it and it's not embarrassing to his characters at all.
     
  17. frogboy4

    frogboy4 Inactive Member

    I really don't think it's the Star Wars episode. George Lucas and Lucasfilm have a great working relationship with Disney right now - an attraction in the theme parks along with Disney and Muppet Star Wars figures. It's interesting to speculate, but I just doubt that as the postponement factor.

    Music rights (although I thought those had been firmed up for everything after season one); economic or strategic timing really seems to be the case here. The good news is that they are talking about it and that plans are in the works for this and many other Muppet Disney projects.

    It's just patience.
     
  18. Nick22

    Nick22 Active Member

    i have no patience for these kind of things! i hate waiting!
     
  19. bazooka_beak

    bazooka_beak Active Member

    At least they seem to be finishing what they start *grumbles about Disney Afternoon sets*
     
  20. minor muppetz

    minor muppetz Well-Known Member

    While it's bad that anything was cut from the Old School sets, cutting Happy Birthday out was only a few seconds of cut footage. It wasn't a major musical number or sketch.
     


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