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Discussion in 'Classic Muppets' started by behemoth, Nov 21, 2002.

  1. sesamemuppetfan

    sesamemuppetfan Well-Known Member

    Sorry to bring up a really old thread, but several months ago, I got a copy of "Muppet Treasures" from eBay. At the end, I was expecting to see all the videos shown here, but much to my surprise, the remaining 3 videos where show. So, yeah, I wanna say that later printings of the videos had longer promos.
     
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  2. minor muppetz

    minor muppetz Well-Known Member

    Now all of The Muppet Revue (all in one part instead of split into multiple videos) is on YouTube.

     
  3. sesamemuppetfan

    sesamemuppetfan Well-Known Member

    (*Sarcasm like voice*) Yay, cool, thanks for sharing...
     
  4. minor muppetz

    minor muppetz Well-Known Member

    Oops, wrong video. I should have stayed on the page after replying to make sure it was the right link so I could have edited...

    But here's the right link... I hope....

     
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  5. sesamemuppetfan

    sesamemuppetfan Well-Known Member

    Oh, well it's OK! We all know what Big Bird said back in Season 2! Either way, I apologize for my rudeness in the previous post.
     
  6. minor muppetz

    minor muppetz Well-Known Member

    I found Rock Music with the Muppets on Dailymotion.

     
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  7. minor muppetz

    minor muppetz Well-Known Member

    After watching all of Rock Music with the Muppets for the first time in years, here are some thoughts:
    1. At the beginning, Dr. Teeth calls Beaker his "incompetent engineer". Aside from calling him incompetent, is this some kind of play-on-words?
    2. The introduction to "Don't Blame the Dynamite" is a little odd. After making his song cue line, Dr. Teeth laughs and Beaker reacts like it's a bad pun. But I thought the song was written especially for the show, and not one that's been done multiple times. Seems like a somewhat odd joke to make before that song.
    3. Before "I Hear the Earth Move", Beaker is clearly singing "Feelings" when he thinks Dr. Teeth is introducing him, but is the song Beaker tries to sing before "School's Out" an actual song?
    4. During the introduction to "Yakkity Yak", it seems like Dr. Teeth is nervous when he says "you're probably wondering what Beaker is going to play next".Maybe he's anticipating another explosion. But maybe it'd be better if that introduction had them arguing (similar to the earlier "I don't care if you don't do windows, clean it up" argument earlier) leading to Dr. Teeth telling Beaker "don't talk back".
    5. Is Dr. Teeth's "I leave for five seconds and the fox is in the chicken house" line before the final song supposed to be an expression?
    6. I used to wonder if this videos setting was supposed to be a music video show or a radio show (in Country Music with the Muppets it's clearly a music video show), but then in the last introduction Beaker is holding a record (or is it a 45?), so it must be a radio show.
    7. Has anybody ever tried to track down what's in all those pictures in the recording studio? Muppet Wiki points out images of Frank Oz and Richard Hunt (it's a little weird that two Muppet performers were pictured alongside pictures of guest stars), but there's also Alice Cooper, Elton John (too bad none of his numbers are included), I think Johnny Cash, I think Buddy Rich, I think Jean Stapleton, and a few that I'm not sure of, such as an image of Fozzie with a female guest star (can't tell if it's Raquel Welch, Diana Ross, Gladys Knight, or somebody else), Miss Piggy with who I think is either Jonathan Winters or Jean-Pierre Rampal, an image of Mahna Mahna and the Snowths, and a picture of Fozzie without any guest stars.
    8. Aside from the listed set of guest stars on each respective video, I thought that the credits were all the same on each video, but this one also lists "Graham Fletcher as Fletcher Bird" after the performer credits. It's especially interesting that they credited Fletcher considering that all the videos (that I've seen) list the same eight Muppet performers (Henson, Oz, Nelson, Hunt, Goelz, Gold, Whitmire, and Mullen) but never any other performers, even though the various videos do include performances by Eren Ozker, John Lovelady, Peter Friedman, Fran Brill, and others.
     
  8. Oscarfan

    Oscarfan Well-Known Member


    1. It's moreso supposed to be a somewhat alliterative phrase.
    2. It's because it's a forced segue.
    3. He's also singing "Feelings" there.
    4. Probably because Beaker was messing up the whole video and his taste in music doesn't seem very "hip"
    5. It means he's where he shouldn't be. Foxes in chicken coops tend to be trouble, exactly what Beaker would be out of the booth (ironically).
     
  9. minor muppetz

    minor muppetz Well-Known Member

    Oh. I thought the tune sounded a little different (I thought maybe he was singing some sort of opera), but then again, he also only sang a few words before Dr. Teeth interrupted him.
     
  10. minor muppetz

    minor muppetz Well-Known Member

    Another observation about "Rock Music" is that Beaker makes a LOT more explosions than I had remembered. I thought he only made explosions in the intro to "Don't Blame the Dynamite" (and mistakenly thought that was when Dr. Teeth told Beaker to promise he'll never do that again before Beaker accidentally does) and during the end credits (and I was thinking that some explosions went off in Dr. Teeth's part of the room, instead of just behind the glass where Beaker was).

    Maybe it's due to the window being dirty from explosions combined with Beaker in smoke and perhaps the quality of the video that was uploaded, but it seems like during the credits Beakers pupils get smaller or missing. Might just be me.

    And the times when we hear Dr. Teeth introduce a segment via voice-over does make it hard to hear the beginning of the songs. So radio DJs do talk over the beginning of songs (though they usually stop when the singing begins), but did music video VJs do this as well? I'm a little surprised Country Music with the Muppets didn't have Rowlf introduce clips via voice over.
     
  11. Oscarfan

    Oscarfan Well-Known Member


    It's an alternate puppet (I think of the ones they made for the Mac Davis episode) that they just dirtied and singed.

    Video DJs don't usually do that. And it's really distracting in this video and rather unnecessary, despite the format.
     
  12. minor muppetz

    minor muppetz Well-Known Member

    The good thing is that all of those clips can be viewed online without Dr. Teeth's voice-over (as most Muppet Show clips on YouTube re taken from the episodes they originated in as opposed to the compilations), but back then viewers didn't have that option (though the show was more widely available in reruns at the time).
     
  13. minor muppetz

    minor muppetz Well-Known Member

    One thing that's interesting is that the three videos that don't feature Kermit in the linking footage also have the least amount of Kermit content (in fact I recently realized that Muppet Treasures only has two clips with Kermit, both of which have him in a minor role, but at least he hosts the linking footage there).

    Rock Music only has Kermit in Disco Frog, Country Music only has Kermit in backstage scenes from the Roger Miller episode, and Muppet Wiki notes that Kermit doesn't appear at all (though I know that the Rambling Guy segment does have an audience shot where Kermit can be seen, but as I haven't seen that video I don't know whether that shot might be edited out or not). Of course those videos are hosted by other Jim Henson characters, which is likely why he doesn't show up in linking footage (though I've read that Fozzie and Miss Piggy interact in Fozzie's Muppet Scrapbook, so they could have tried to work in a Kermit appearance in linking footage), but the other videos that Kermit doesn't host do have plenty of Kermit, in both the linking footage and existing clips.

    Of course, there's also a genre issue. Kermit didn't appear in many rock or country numbers on the show (and I don't think he ever sung any country songs). But Kermit did do a lot of numbers that would have been great for Rowlf's Rhapsodies ("Any Old Iron", "How Could You Believe Me When I Said I Love You When You Know I've Been a Liar All My Life?", "Waiting at the Church", "Do a Deer"). But maybe there were music rights issues preventing them from being included.
     
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  14. sesamemuppetfan

    sesamemuppetfan Well-Known Member

    I found Gonzo Presents Muppet Weird Stuff. The only downside is that this person's DVR was acting when he/she uploaded the video, so there are a good number of skips and whatnot throughout the video and it cuts off right after the Koozbanian Mating Ritual.

    https://archive.org/details/VintageCartoonsAndRareShows
     
  15. BeakerJanice

    BeakerJanice Active Member

    It's like the best of TMS :)
     
  16. sesamemuppetfan

    sesamemuppetfan Well-Known Member

    @minor muppetz In case you didn't see my previous post in this thread, I found an uploaded copy of Gonzo Presents Muppet Weird Stuff. The only downside is that this person's DVR was acting when he/she uploaded the video, so there are a good number of skips and whatnot throughout the video and it cuts off right after the Koozbanian Mating Ritual.

    https://archive.org/details/VintageCartoonsAndRareShows
     
  17. minor muppetz

    minor muppetz Well-Known Member

    One thing about these videos that has been on my mind: So I can never find used copies of these anywhere, and don't really want to order online. A handful of these can be viewed on YouTube or Daily Motion (and a few others were online but taken offline within a short time frame). But one thing I want as much as seeing them is the packaging, the back covers and inside cover info.

    Now, I often Google search these titles looking to see if images are online. It's always a joy to see the images. But at the same time I wonder, in the case that I ever find a used copy for sale or if I cave in and order a used copy online, would they feel less special if all of them are uploaded online somewhere and if I find all of the back/inside covers (there's three I haven't watched, I've found six back covers online - in addition to having seen the back cover to The Muppet Revue in person when I was younger, and I've found images from five inside covers online, in addition to having seen two others in person but can't remember what info was there)?

    Heck, sometimes I wonder if I would buy one if I found a used copy without the packaging or if I'd hold out until I find one with packaging (whether it's as it was sold or a "video store altered" packaging). Though whenever I do go to flea markets/Goodwill stores/used video stores and see used VHS tapes with no packaging I rarely actually look at what's there anyway.
     
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  18. sesamemuppetfan

    sesamemuppetfan Well-Known Member

    I see what you mean about ordering them online. Those tapes are so rare, that people choose to sell them at such a high price! Occasionally if you're lucky enough, people will sell them at a good price (last year, I was lucky enough to purchase Muppet Treasures and Rock Music for decent prices on eBay).

    Which other videos are seen on YouTube and Dailymotion? I know that The Muppet Revue and Children's Songs and Stories are on YouTube, and Rock Music is on Dailymotion. What else is online?
     
  19. minor muppetz

    minor muppetz Well-Known Member

    Well, for me, part of it is more ordering online than the cost. I tend to prefer to do things by actually going out and doing them over doing things online or by phone. I have looked at Amazon's pages for them a few years ago and saw that the average one was in the $20 range (which I would have been willing to pay, if only it was in an actual shop), but then there are some where the high prices are unacceptable (I recall seeing one in the $80 price range, and recall seeing Muppet Moments priced at over 120 dollars). I wonder how much these videos originally cost (I know that at the time the average home video was very pricey, I could see the original price being maybe over the $20 range that's charged on Amazon).

    Those are the only ones that are online now (that I know of). But in the past, The Kermit and Piggy Story, Muppet Weird Stuff, and Country Music with the Muppets have all been on YouTube. I don't know whether any of the others have been on DailyMotion (or if any others have been on YouTube and I was just never lucky enough to have known that they were online).
     
  20. sesamemuppetfan

    sesamemuppetfan Well-Known Member

    Yeah, again, those tapes are so rare that people just choose to sell them at high prices. Occasionally, they'll pop up online for a cheap price- a couple months ago someone was selling Fozzie's Muppet Scrapbook for $5+free shipping on eBay, and just when I was able to get a hold of some spare money to put on my ATM card, the tape got sold! Plus, since May, someone has been trying to give away his/her copy of Muppet Weird Stuff on eBay, starting at $99.95. Every time he/she re-lists it, he/she lowers the price by $5 or $10 less than the last time. Quite ridiculous- to think that when I was in 1st grade, I borrowed that tape (along with The Muppet Revue and The Kermit and Piggy Story) from Tower Video (remember that place?) for just $2 or so!

    I do recall seeing those 3 tapes you mentioned (The Kermit and Piggy Story, Muppet Weird Stuff, and Country Music) on YouTube, definitely, but I don't think they lasted long.

    Also, in case you keep missing my posts about this, I found an uploaded copy of Gonzo Presents Muppet Weird Stuff. The only downside is that this person's DVR was acting when he/she uploaded the video, so there are a good number of skips and whatnot throughout the video and it cuts off right after the Koozbanian Mating Ritual. I hope you don't miss the link this time!

    https://archive.org/details/VintageCartoonsAndRareShows
     

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