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Positive And Negative: Kermit's Swamp Years (Opinions on KSY)

Discussion in 'Classic Muppets' started by Powerstars, Jun 28, 2012.

  1. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    This is the ONE Muppet movie I never got around to seeing. I never got it on DVD when it was readily available everywhere for 5 bucks, and now it's impossible to find for some reason. But I have heard nothing but awful things.
  2. Pinkflower7783

    Pinkflower7783 Well-Known Member

    Yep that's it you got it! See you can still see! LOL!
  3. Hubert

    Hubert Well-Known Member

    My pi reciting skills come in handy sometimes...
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  4. Pinkflower7783

    Pinkflower7783 Well-Known Member

    For me personally yes it wasn't great, but it wasn't so horrible that I wanted to throw my DVD out the window and have it land in someone's backyard so their dog could chew it. I did that with MFS and Wizard of Oz. :o I think it's just personal preference.
  5. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    I was here when the thing premiered, and it was a virtual crapstorm of complaints.

    If that doesn't scare you off of seeing a film, I don't know what does.

    Of course, a year later I was curious and wanted to see it for myself. I've been looking for it insanely cheap ever since.
  6. Pinkflower7783

    Pinkflower7783 Well-Known Member

    I'm not saying it was a 9/10 or 5 stars movie lord knows it wasn't no where near that. I hated the music, the CGI fly and the talking dog was just stupid. The villian was just annoying. And like someone said I felt the potty mouth jokes were just cheap humor. It did have very little redeeming qualities but like I said I didn't hate it. I didn't see it till years after it was out for the same reasons but I did find it cheap in a FYI for 3.00 so I figured what the hey.

    The DVD extras on it are pretty good though haha I guess that would be one of the few redeeming things. I did like how they had a young Kermit meeting a young Jim Henson though I thought that was probably the only brillant thing about the movie. And I liked seeing Kermit as a young frog. They could've made it into a really great movie but it did lack a lot. But I guess you'll have to watch it for yourself to judge.
  7. Powerstars

    Powerstars Active Member

    What have you done to my thread? Time to bring this baby back on topic!

    *fires :search::p:(:insatiable::wisdom::grouchy::super::batty: everywhere*

    Now, the final storm!!!!

    *fires :laugh::laugh::laugh:*
  8. Pinkflower7783

    Pinkflower7783 Well-Known Member

    I didn't start it!! It was Beau! XXD
  9. Powerstars

    Powerstars Active Member

    YOU ARE ALL TO BLAME!!! *Eats :oops: whole*
  10. Hubert

    Hubert Well-Known Member

    Technically, I started it with my Hare Krishna reference...
  11. Pinkflower7783

    Pinkflower7783 Well-Known Member

    I just know I wasn't taking any blame!!
  12. Mo Frackle

    Mo Frackle Well-Known Member

    So, who won this week's off-topic forum battle?
    I'm surprised nobody used this as a secret weapon:
    [​IMG]
    Along with such wonderfully thoughtful comments from some of the Muppets biggest fans who saw this special...
    "OMG! I loved win dat chicken-thing sang 'mi mi mi mi' with Demi!"
    and who could forget...
    "I luv Cermit and Mrs. Piggy!"
    "U go, puppets!"
  13. Mo Frackle

    Mo Frackle Well-Known Member

    Getting back on topic (again)...

    KSY Pros:
    The idea of a movie about a young Kermit was nice.
    Kermit's childhood friends (Goggles, Croaker, Blotch) were great.
    Steve Whitmire got a special credit during the opening credits
    Probably in a minority here, but I actually did like some of the songs (Amanda Marshall's "I Believe in You", for instance).
    Young Jim Henson
    Salmon Freinds
    The dog named Rowlf
    Kermit's scene with the live pig
    Young Statler and Waldorf

    Cons:
    The fact that toilet humor was even considered
    Despite the fact that the idea of this film was good, I really think that the story, jokes, etc., could have been more thought-out.
    This is more of a nit-pick, but what era is this movie supposed to take place in? The high school that Kermit and co. visit looks very modern-dayish.
    Outside of the always fantastic performances by the Muppet performers, it really seemed to lack the usual Muppet charm.

    Overall, while not a terrible flick, it's still not a great one. It was clearly meant to be more of a movie for 'the kiddies' rather than for everybody.
  14. Powerstars

    Powerstars Active Member

    ^ Thank you.
  15. minor muppetz

    minor muppetz Well-Known Member

    Pros:
    • Kermit's friends are cool.
    • "Life as a Pet" is such a catchy song.
    • Kermit meeting Jim Henson.
    • All the little fan references.

    In-Between:
    • I don't know what to make of the pig scene.
    • All the Wizard of Oz references, though I think the movie was referenced so much because it was reportedly the first movie Jim Henson ever saw.

    Cons:
    • Kermit should have told this story to his more well-known friends (Fozzie, Piggy, Gonzo, and others), or at least just to Robin, as opposed to narrarating alone (almost like an honorary "Tales from Muppetland" special, except Kermit is the lead this time).
    • Aside from Statler and Waldorf's cameo, the lack of Dave Goelz, Jerry Nelson, Brian Henson, Kevin Clash, and Eric Jacobson (I'll excuse the lack of Frank Oz here). Then again, with it focusing on Kermit's childhood, before he met the others, could this have been an attempt to have newer performers work in a Muppet production? Whitmire and Barretta were really the only ones with maajor Muppet characters to have been heavily involved with this film.
    • All the bathroom humor. I didn't think Muppets from Space had much of it (and I was surprised by some of it when I first saw it), but here it seems like an awful lot for a Muppet movie.
    • Pilgrim is downright annoying.
    • Very few songs.
    • The audio commentary was very limited. When commentary is done by fictional characters that limits the amount of real information we can do, and they only talk at speciffic moments. And I don't remember any facts they provided that I don't know.

    I haven't watched this movie in a few years. I keep meaning to rewatch it, but I keep holding off on it.
  16. Borples

    Borples Active Member

    I've only seen the movie once, and that was a few years ago, so I can't really comment on that. But I can say that I love the blooper reel with fierce, fierce love. :) "Thank you, I've been practicing...."
  17. Powerstars

    Powerstars Active Member

    I do love when Kermit bursts into the Swedish Chef.
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  18. Vincent Liu

    Vincent Liu Well-Known Member

    What can I say? Everyone took all my answers. But I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks young Kermit is cute.
  19. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    I really should wait until I see this thing, but...


    And we got upset at Fart Shoes... why?
  20. Pinkflower7783

    Pinkflower7783 Well-Known Member

    Because I think KSY was a forgotten movie. Lol!


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