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Discussion in 'Sesame Merchandise' started by GelflingWaldo, Nov 8, 2005.
That's not Big Bird's mom it's his aunt.
Ah, ok, didn't know. Thanks
Okay, when I first saw "Sesame Beginnings" mentioned in passing my first thought was "WHEEE!!! First Episodes of Sesame Street FINALLY released!!" And then then I saw it was about Sesame Street muppet babies. I was disappointed, until I saw the promo. I'm still a little bummed that they're babifying Sesame Street characters although they've been doing that since the 80s, with merchandise. ALso, I think the puppetry is pretty cute! I like it!
Personally though, I'd love to see them do something with the Muppet Babies puppets as well someday! Maybe something like this!
something tells me you're a trekkie, baby rowlf...
I love cutesy little baby things. And I'm not ashamed to say it either! And with Madame Chairbird, wow. Yeah, they just made her not look so old around the eyes. That sounds cool. And personally I like Elmo's dad really well. I don't know he just looks out right sweet.
There's actually quite a bit of controversy in childhood development circles about this project. It's drawing a lot of criticism from child psychologists at Harvard Medical School and elsewhere. They're taking the same line as The American Academy of Pediatrics which recommends that children under two should not be watching TV. I've written some more about this here.
I think the show itself looks really cute and well produced, though I don't personally think they need to be producing videos for babies.
raise the ss level to 4 to 15 plz god nah kidding it looks interesting but why is bb aunt so short and why not make it like rugratas oh how i miss rugrats
What I Wish the Videos were
I wish more of these videos were made, but with a much older targeted age. I like the idea of Baby (Insert Sesame Character) running around with a parent but I don't think it should be geared toward babies per se, just towards the fan base who grew up with the show and would enjoy seeing beloved characters in a new light. One random question: Shouldn't Baby Big Bird still be like 3 feet tall?
You know... The whole issue of whether they should be making this stuff for their target demographic aside...
The whole controversy over the pediatric value and if children that young shouldn't be watching TV or videos is completely stupid to me. Heck, was born in December of 1977, for five weeks my parents took care of me, and then we found SS. Watched it non-stop since that young an age in late January/early February 1978, learned how to write and read when I was 2 years old in December of 1979. So, to me, all these pediatric child behavioral experts can just take a flying leap.
Gah... Making a release by SS controversial when it doesn't have to be... Saying that children that young shouldn't even be watching TV... Again, Gah!
I bought them today. Just got back from Walmart and got them. I haven't watched them yet. I figured since I'm over at my sisters I'll wait until the youngest gets here and I'll watch them with her. Now i'm not saying that I don't want to watch them with her just because she's the right age for these and I would feel dumb watching them without her your wrong. I just thought I would wait for her instead of watching it twice. I'll proubly watch them over and over without her but I had a thought. Thats all. I'll let yall know if I liked them or not.
Here are some neat little tid bits from inside the DVD case.
Baby Big Bird
Age: 19 Months
Baby Cookie Monster
Age: 16 Months
Age: 13 Months
Baby Prairie Dawn
Age: 24 Months
It seems that Prairie is the oldest here. Pretty neat.
Baby Big Bird
Age would be: Year old 1 years old but a couple days older then Cookie M.
Baby Cookie Monster
Age would be: Year old 1 years old
Age would be: 13 months old because he had't reached his birthday. Elmo is the youngest and why wouldn't he be.
Baby Prairie Dawn
Age would be: Year old 1 years old but a lot of months too. Her birthday would be coming up soon so she would be 2 years old.
I know this isn't really anything imporant but I thought it would be fun to see what people think about how they did with the how old they would be now.
Actually Kyle... According to those ages you posted, they would be...
Prairie Dawn: 24 months = 2 years exactly, already had her second birthday.
Big Bird: 19 months = 1 year and 7 months, a year and a half old plus one month more.
Cookie Monster: 16 months = 1 year and 4 months, a year and a third old.
Elmo: 13 months, 1 year and one month, one month past his first birthday.
Always wonder why babies are measured in months, and when abouts do we stop doing that and switch over to years instead. Guess it's all part of the measurements system we silly creatures use.
Just a little more open...
Buck - I respect you - But unless you are a parent of that target audience then I ask that you be a little more objective and open to the idea that we as parents, should be making these decisions. Not some bunch of lab - nerds trying to get published or a cause-ite for commercialism.
Look, I know there are a lot of care providers that sit kids in front of a TV and try to turn them into zombies at a very important time in brain development. But the truth is, this is a developmental tool that encourages Parents and children to interact together - this is not a babysitter. Jumping to concusions like that is really deflates the value of this series. Watch the DVD's yourself and understand that this is something you DO with your child, not let them become engrossed in by themselves while you are doing other things.
On the topic of retention of information... I think that yes there is a limit to which you can introduce a newborn to this media. But it is not at 2 - I would set the bar at 10 months. Because in my family it is a proven fact that Elmo and his pals taught my son to speak and identify with things faster than I could alone with just books. And, he has a tolerance for just 30 minutes of this stuff max outside of his preset TV limit. Then it's just background noise that he bop's along to while doing something else like drawing and building things away from the TV or being outside enjoying the world.
Just think about it, it's all I ask.
I was reading the listing of ages in Sesame Beginnings and thought, if Cookie Monster is younger than Big Bird, then he must be a child on Sesame Street, since Big Bird is six, but then Baby Elmo is only six months younger than baby Big Bird, and on Sesame Street Elmo is three. So either the producers didn't care about established continuity, or didn't do any research on their ages, or the baby versions of the characters never appear together and therefore we don't know if all of their scenes take place in the same year (I haven't seen these yet, so I don't know if they all appear together).
Of course, this wouldn't be the first time that a show featuring younger versions of established characters had continuity errors....
I just watched the "Making Music Together" DVD with my kids....
It's a good spin-off, and I get the idea of how they're trying to get parents to interact with their children - dancing, wiggling, making rhythms with them....Singing "Twinkle, Twinkle Little Star."
I prefer Play With Me Sesame, however, since it was able to capture their attention better.
Wait since Bill B. is Elmos dad, does that mean hes fianally comin to the Street?????
My hopes are up....
Can't waittill my niece is old enough for this stuff!
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