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Sesame Street Encyclopedia Update

Discussion in 'On the Web' started by Thijs, Feb 27, 2003.

  1. Clean Gultch

    Clean Gultch New Member

    You can just use the Ingird picture for Mona since theyre both the same AM monster.
  2. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    Hey BlueFrackle and Tommie!!!!

    I can get you a picture of the 2 head Monster, as well as Cookie Hood (who is NOT Cookie Monster, though he looks like him, he's portraied by Jerry Nelson)

    I'll see if I can get a pic of his horse, Marion, too....
  3. Thijs

    Thijs Member

    A thats great Tooth, TwoHead is such a big character.

    greets Thijs
  4. Pino

    Pino Member

    I´m curious about coockiehood... od u have a picture for me 2 tooth???:D
  5. BlueFrackle

    BlueFrackle Active Member


    Chill it will be on the site as soon as we recieve it !

    I also just updated and added Fred (The Dragon), People are always talking or asking about him.

    Its not a great picture, But you try and find a better one of a cameo Monster from the 70's - LOL!

    If anyone has or i ever do get a better picture, Ofcourse ill change it... That goes for ALL The Muppets on the site.

    see ya
  6. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    Hey guys!!

    I just sent you pics of the twoheaded monster, Cookie Hood, and Marion (his horse).

    Pino: Cookie Hood is a Robin Hood sort of character that robs from the rich (in cookies) and gives to those who have none. he looks like Cookie Monster, but is performed by Jerry Nelson. He framed Cookie Monster for Cookie taking from Gordon, Maria, and Big Bird.

    BlueFrackle: I forgot to add one fact about Cookie Hood. Please add it to the bio..

    Fact: Cookie Hood knows the word for cookie in almost every language.
  7. The Count

    The Count Moderator Staff Member

    Greetings, Drtooth. Got a few questions for you if you could happen to help me out.
    1 Would you count Cookie Hood as a distinctly separate character? What about his horse Marion and is that the correct spelling of its name?
    2 Please describe both characters to the best of your abilities including stuff, like skin/fur color, hair color and tail color of Marion, costume wardrobe (what pieces of clothing he wore and what color each piece was colored), etc.
    3 Do you remember the "Prarie Dawn" like AM seen in the background of the Karaoke sing-along during the S34 priemere? Please describe her in the same manner and with the same detailling as what I asked above for the previous characters.
    4 Would you count Alistair Cookie, The Great Nineteeny, Dirth Naer, and Dr. Bob as characters that should be added to a master Muppet listing?
    Please respond either here on the forums or to my E-mail to the best of your knowledge. Thanks for your help and have a good day.
  8. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    Cookie Hood is INDEED a different character than Cookie Monster, as they were both on screen at the same time, and played by different performers.

    Cookie Hood wears a Pointy, green "Robin Hood" type hat with a Yellow Feather. He is the Same as the Cookie monster Puppet, but he has a small slightly lighter blue Mustache, and he wears a green, Robin Hood type costume (slightly Frilly) and white gloves on his hands.

    Marion is a Muppet Horse. She's Brown with Black mane. She has a white stripe between her eyes, right down to the start of her horse snout (Nose... whatever it's called) She wears a similar Hat as Cookie Hood too, I think! I'm guessing it's either Marion or Mareion (horse mare... bad pun).
  9. As for Alistair Cookie et al, list them if you want, but explain in the margin that this is just one role for a character.

    Alistair Cookie...Cookie Monster, when hosting Monsterpiece Theatre.

    But if you were actualy trying to get the total number of muppets that have ever appeared (an impossible task) I wouldn't include such separate roles for the same character in the enumeration. And if there's no margin describing the characters, I'd just omit roles such as Alistair Cookie and Super Grover entirely.
  10. The Count

    The Count Moderator Staff Member

    Thanks for the assist, Drtooth. The reason why I asked about Cookie Hood's horse is because Robin Hood's lady love's name was Maid "Marian" so this hopefully clears up the confusion. Now, if you could, please answer the other two questions I asked.
    Somethingofafan, or should it be SomethingOfAFan?
    Super Grover, is in my mind at least, sufficient cause to be listed as a different character. He's a superhero version of Grover and superheroes have alternate real identities. Both the real identity and the superhero identity count as two completely different characters though it's the same person. Though you could list an example like this: Bruce Wayne, Batman; but they're still two different people even though it's the one person playing both roles.
    A small explanation like would justify it in your opinion? Alistair Cookie, from Monsterpiece Theater?
    For references to my masterpiece of Muppets, check out a thread called "Muppet Listings 4.0" buried in the Classic Muppets section of this forum. Try looking for it around my birthday's date: December 20, of last year. Hope this helps.
  11. Thijs

    Thijs Member

    Alistair Cookie and Super Grover will not be listed as separate characters in the Sesame Street Encyclopedia. Their descriptions are included in the bio's of Grover and Cookie. Cookie Hood has his own place in the encyclopedia of course.

    By the way Count, we've added your name to the "Thanks!" page. Check it out.
  12. The Count

    The Count Moderator Staff Member

    Ah ha! Thank you Tommy! Not rully that bummed that Alistair Cookie and Super Grover won't be added as separate entries in your massive project. Just asking if the forum members out there thought whether or not I should add them as separate entries to my massive Muppets listing. If you've got an opinion on this subject, let me hear it.

    Should I add the following:
    Alistair Cookie
    Dirth Nader
    Dr. Bob
    The Great Nineteeny.

    Or should they be listed like this
    Alistair Cookie, from Monsterpiece Theater
    Dirth Nader, from Muppet Star Wars
    Dr. Bob, from Veterinarian's Hospital
    The Great Nineteeny, from Big Bird's magic show.

    Or should these names not be added to my master Muppet listings at all? Please let me know what you guys think. Thanks for the help and have a good night.
  13. Maybe you could add a separate listing of recurring roles played by certain characters:

    Dr. Bob-------------Rowlf------------------Veterinarian's Hospital
    Alistair Cookie----Cookie Monster------Monsterpiece Theater
  14. The Count

    The Count Moderator Staff Member

    Here's one more for the encyclopedia.

    Performer: (By the voice, I'd say) Jerry Nelson.
    Season(s): 31.
    Year(s): 2000.
    Most Famous Song: "I Love Trash" sung as a duet with Oscar the Grouch. But when Felix sang it, the song was as follows: "Oh I love to Clean! I love to polish and press and perfect things. I love to shine and wash and inspect things."
    Description: Though I can't provide a physical description, the character's demeanor was thus.
    This character was made to spoof the classic TV show, The Odd Couple staring Jack Clubman and Tony Randall as Felix Unger and Oscar Madison. Felix came to Sesame Street to visit his old roommate, Oscar. However, Felix is a grouch who likes to clean things. The whole episode's plotline revolved around the fight between Oscar and Felix who went to work at cleaning up Oscar's trash can and its contents. In the end, Oscar realized that the two grouches could be friends arguing about leaving the shared trash can messy or clean according to both of their particular living tastes.

    Hope this helps.
  15. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    Since I gaqve the pic of the 2 headed monster to you, I wonder what they're (he?) going to be under.

    Will he be under two headed monster or Frank and Stine?
  16. mikealan

    mikealan New Member

    Wow! That's the great bio for the character I saw on the Season 31 episode on Noggin last weekend! It was Felix the Grouch. Thanks Count for knowing about him!
  17. The Count

    The Count Moderator Staff Member

    Thank you Mikealan. Though the reason I saw that episode was because you posted in another thread here that Noggin started showing Season 31 episodes. BTW: Maybe you can answer something I'm hunkering to know more about. Mikealan, you said that there was a counting segment involving mythic creatures/monsters turning themselves into the numbers from 1 to 20 as they counted up to that high number. Could you please elaborate on the particulars of that sketch? Like which mythic creature/monster was used for each of the twenty numbers? Please post your reply either here or in a thread I started called "Help with a Classic Counting Segment." Thanks for the help and have a good day.
  18. Thijs

    Thijs Member

    Thanks for the bio Count. I hope we'll find a picture soon so we can put Felix online.
    And Dr. Tooth: we haven't decided yet where the Two Head will be under. What do you think? (thats a question to all of you)
  19. The Count

    The Count Moderator Staff Member

    My opinion is that the character should be listed under the "T's", since the character is best known as the Two-Headed Monster. But you could always have a small explanation saying that the individual heads are named Frank and Stein or Horn and Hardac, according to the information you have from the Sesame Street Unpaved book. Now as to which head has which name, that's a question that we'd all like answered. Hope this helps, and if there's anything else I can do just let me know.
  20. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    1) maybe, somone with Cable can tape the episode when it airs on Sesame Unpaved.

    2) So you are INDEFINATELY going to use the Two headed Monster pic I gave you. Cause I need to know, since my semesters almost up.

    Actually, I think it should be Under Two Headed Monster. Count best put it, as he is known best as the two headed monster, like Mahnah Manah would be under Bip Bopadotta, since he is best known as that on Sesame Street.

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