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Seven Little Monsters FOUND

Discussion in 'Classic Sesame Street' started by Drtooth, Sep 16, 2011.

  1. Drtooth Well-Known Member

    (Posted on the youtube clip thread)
    The longest lost of long lost Sesame Street skits, the supposedly unaired Maurice Sendak cartoon that was considered too creepy for kids.

    Oddly enough, decades later, it was deemed safe enough for a cartoon of its very own


    Note the fact in the theme intro, 5 drinks all the water out of the pool, much like he does in the original sketch, and the fact that 7's removable head doesn't seem to bother anyone no, as it's more to a comical extent. Also, for program's sake, 2 of the monsters turned into girls, and the bull looking one becomes a fuzzy green reptile that looks suspiciously like the DIC animated King Koopa.

    As for the sketch it self, I DO see where the freakiness comes from. Not so much the antics of the monsters in the begining of the cartoon... but this segment at the end where they somehow turn their house into a hideous face and run around...

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    Yeah... that could very well have disturbed kids. Had it ended differently, I'd've said... are you crazy? But I could see running away from the TV and hiding under the furnature at an early age from that.
  2. The Count Moderator

    So what monsters do we have involved in this? :scary:
  3. Drtooth Well-Known Member

    Maurice Sendak's 7 little Monsters, of course. All named 1 through 7. Films' a little grainy to make anything really out. But I can vouch that #2, #5, and #7 look almost exactly the same as their 2002 cartoon counterparts. Basically the same kind of Monsters that we know better as "Wild Things," as in the book with the same name.
  4. The Count Moderator

    Ah, okay, thanks buddy. Still trying to fill up my monster roster.
  5. Drtooth Well-Known Member

    If you would like

    1- Sort of griffin -like... lionish face, wings, bird feet... in the 2002 series it was a Peppermitn Patty-ish tomboy girl.

    2- shaggy hair and a very long nose

    3- furry and had horns... in the cartoon series he has a Howling Mad Murdoch tendency to have different personalities.

    4- Goatlike... looks like King Koopa with a Hat in the cartoon show

    5- Fatter than the others, has horns and a bulbous nose

    6- looks like an ogre... not as hairy as the others, still has horns, was also changed to a girl in the cartoon series. The most radical of all character design changes. She spoke with I guess I'd call it a younger Jewish woman from the 1950's accent.

    7- Sort of Frankenstein like, but with a tuna can shaped head and horns... his head's basically a screw that goes into his neck socket.

    I'd say 2, 5, and 7 didn't change from this animation to their show. And the show is pretty interesting if you ever check it out.
  6. The Count Moderator

    Extra thanks for the info on the individual monsters as it gives me a few ideas. The only problem I see at the moment is are Monsters 1 and 6 similar or different enough from Critters 3 and 8 in the Jim Henson's City Critters thread? :search:
  7. D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    All I know that in the 2002 cartoon, Colin Mochrie voiced one of the monsters (2 I believe), while his wife Debra McGrath voiced the little old lady they lived with.
  8. Drtooth Well-Known Member

    Pretty different as they're all pretty tall monsters. And pretty much flesh tone-ish in color in this version. Print's very faded so I can't really tell. They're also a bit more human like than the Jim Henson Muppet like City Monsters.

  9. minor muppetz Well-Known Member

    I'm glad this has turned up. I've been wanting to see this ever since I first read about it (and knew of Jim's involvement). It's good, though I think I like it more for it's rarity. I wouldn't say it's Henson's best, but I think it is better than Bumble Ardy (and the Queen of Six, King of 8, and Henson computer animation shorts). But I prefer the other former Henson holy grail "Baker #1".

    The red book site noted that this segment had cannons, cited as "innappropriate for childrens television", and I don't see how firing cannons is innapropriate for a children's show (alright, maybe for an educational childrens show like Sesame Street, but cannons often appear in cartoons). And I was a bit disapointed with the size of the cannons, though I wasn't expecting the monsters to be giants.

    The large monsters appearing ina villiage of little people somehow reminds me of games like Pikmin and Lemmings.
  10. D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    I disagree, I think King of 8 is one of Jim's greatest earlier animated pieces... Queen of 6 I wasn't entirely impressed with, it seemed more like an attempt to recreate something that didn't need to be recreated.
  11. minor muppetz Well-Known Member

    I like King of 8 better now than I did as a kid. Back then, I didn't like the designs of the characters and was a bt freaked out by the jester, both his design and his voice. I saw the ending, with him crushed by an 8, as a happy ending (though with that kind of ending it is surprising that it continued to be shown until season 36).

    Regarding Queen of Six seeming like an unneccessary attempt to recreate the King of 8, both were made for season two. Jim Henson was contracted to make number films that season. It would be interesting to know which of the segments came first, in terms of which was written/storyboarded first, which began shooting first (probably around the same times, but I guess our best chance of knowing would be if Jim Henson's red book noted the recording dates), and which was broadcast first.
  12. Drtooth Well-Known Member


    King of 8 is more gag based than Queen of 6. I guess that's something for the girls or something. I mean, King of 8 is great, but it wouldn't have been if they didn't have that amazing punchline (and the Jester getting crushed by the giant 8).

    I'd say it's more the fact that #7 can remove his head, albeit cleanly, and it is on a screw. Sort of a Frankenstein sort of way... plus that monster house face rampage bit at the end... like I said, I can't speak for anyone else but that would go down with I-Beam, the talking wall crack, and the skeletal elephant and bird basketball game as pointlessly weird and creepy for a little kid. The cannons, while in virtually every scene, shouldn't be a problem. They weren't exactly gratuitous. if you pay attention, they don't make a sound when fired, and the balls basically fall 2 feet out in front of them, not hitting anyone or anything.
  13. mr3urious Well-Known Member

    The #3 pinball animation had a cannon in it, and the censors didn't seem to have a problem with that.

  14. minor muppetz Well-Known Member

    I wonder if the Seven Monsters clip was uploaded by somebody involved with the segment. I noticed that the clip begins with a few seconds of black and cuts to black at the last second.
  15. Xerus Active Member

    In the new TV show version, the 7 monsters had a human mother who taught them right from wrong. While in that original version I just saw, the monsters caused chaos in the town and scared everyone with no mom to stop them.
  16. Drtooth Well-Known Member

    Probably managed to snag a Master tape somehow.

    That's probably why the segment was banned and the show was produced. After all the show was one of those Pro-Social values dealies.. like Fat Albert or Arthur. Of course, a show's guaranteed to have more depth than something that's basically a counting rhyme. Of course, the show also made the monsters more Sesame Street like (irony?) and they weren't so much scary as they were giant hairy children. You can definitely tell in the sketch that at least #3 and #7 were out to scare people.
  17. minor muppetz Well-Known Member

    It is interesting that both of Maurice Sendak's contributions were eventually banned. I wonder if both were dropped at the same time, or if they were dropped in different years. I would expect Bumble Ardy to have been banned sooner, as that one shows/ talks about the characters drinking wine, and the mother threatens to kill the pigs and make ham (otherwise I don't think the show has acknowledged that animals have to be killed to make meat).

    It's also interesting how the Seven Monsters segment debuted on Sesame Street and then got adapted into a book and a series. I don't think very many other Sesame Street inserts have had this honor. And at that it's an obscure segment that got adapted. I think I have read something about an upcoming Bumble Ardy book, though.
  18. Drtooth Well-Known Member

    Probably managed to snag a Master tape somehow.

    That's probably why the segment was banned and the show was produced. After all the show was one of those Pro-Social values dealies.. like Fat Albert or Arthur. Of course, a show's guaranteed to have more depth than something that's basically a counting rhyme. Of course, the show also made the monsters more Sesame Street like (irony?) and they weren't so much scary as they were giant hairy children. You can definitely tell in the sketch that at least #3 and #7 were out to scare people.
  19. BornToWemble Member

    As an adult the 7 little monsters thing creeps me...they're not litter they're HUGE. And drinking all the water in the world is kinda scary. Plus maybe they didnt want the kids to get scared by the smaller muppet monsters on the show and start thinking that everyone on sesame street were giants or something...
  20. The Shoe Fairy Active Member

    FFFFFFFF of all the times for my internet to be super slow, it's when someone digs up a collab of two of my creative idols.

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