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So whats up with Blue House, Animal Jam, that Australian Muppet Show, and Hoobs?

Discussion in 'Family Worlds' started by beaker, Jul 3, 2003.

  1. Beauregard

    Beauregard Well-Known Member

    Maybe someone shot the bear for sniffing them...Maybe someone found that Tutter had found crack in teh floor boards ands reported it...Maybe one of the otters killed the other...Maybe shadow dissapeard on a bright day...

    The list is endless, man.
  2. Secret Squirrel

    Secret Squirrel New Member

    Scott. "I wonder why it was decided in the first place to not renew Bear for any new episodes? It does so well after all."

    Disney decided they had enough episodes to repeat. Preschool shows have high audience turnover so perpetual repeats are seen as OK. It didn't help from Disney's p.o.v. that Bear is good because it's expensive.

    secret squirrel
  3. Luke

    Luke Active Member

    Possible, but i think persuading Disney to commision something new is going to be very hard. They have more than enough Bear at the moment to start paying for more. How are the ratings for Bear anyway, has it been declining towards the end ?
  4. beaker

    beaker Well-Known Member

    heh, all this Disney Henson back and forth weve had over the years on here, all this time Disney and JHC have been putting out a GREAT show. I dont know how hoobs is, but I have nothing but high praise for Bear. Even tho its heyday was 2000, Im hoping it comes back in a big way.

    YES! As a *HUGE* Bear fan, this is music to my ears. I consider Bear the third major JHC franchise(replacing Fraggle Rock) right after Muppet Show and Sesame Street.

    I just got a Bear for All Seasons dvd, and cannot get enough Bear. It's a shame more older fans pass it up, as trust me...it AINT no big bag animal jam stuff...its genuinely addictive Muppet work.
    Since the 80's died, kids have had nothing but slop for kids shows(Barney, Power Rangers, Telletubies, etc) so Bear was quite a breath of fresh air. But my, even a straight to dvd Bear film would rule. I just want Bear and company to visit real life locations finally! As well as cameo/crossover with other JHC/SW related productions.

    Finally, I went to that Bambaloo site...hmmm, that doesnt look very Muppety in design, and hey...where's Joe the Armadillo?(err, or Dunlop the Armamatey? ;) )
  5. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    I take it Animal Jam Bombed?

    anyway, I too would like to see more of Bear, but there has been talks on the table of a movie for a year and a half now with no other word.

    I mean, stuff like Animal Jam and Tommie DiPala.... oyvey!!!

    Animal Jam is a DOUBLE dissappointment for me. I thought the show was about :halo: teaching kids music, ala Ghost of Fafener Hall or something...

    A crummy Monster Clubhouse Wanna be... all I can say!
  6. Hays

    Hays New Member

    I, too, am pretty broken up about Bear...long ago, I knew some folks who worked on it - hope they're being recycled somewhere... Gotta help those guys pay the cookie bill, as Grover would say!

    Though it's hard to imagine Bear without Luna...
  7. Secret Squirrel

    Secret Squirrel New Member

    Beaker. The Bambaloo characters were designed and built by the London Muppet Shop but were not Muppets. The credits read "Puppets by the Muppet Workshop" and lists the staff.

    The main characters, built for Bambaloo, are all on the site. I believe the pre-existing puppets (including the armadillo puppet) were all cameos.

    Animal Jam did not bomb. Muppet fans may not like it, but it rated well.

    secret squirrel
  8. BlueFrackle

    BlueFrackle Active Member

    Secret Squirrel,

    Yay for the London Muppet Workshop !

    Portia the Parrot looks fantastic, Although the Fish doesnt have good eyes. And eyes are the most important thing on a Muppet.

    I saw some puppets being built in the Muppet Workshop in the Creature Workshop in London a few months ago. I saw some human hand puppets, Like those from The Ghost Of Faffner Hall and i also saw a full body Donkey. Do you know what those were being made for ?

    I also saw a full body puppet being made, It was all yellow fur with yellow fleece hands.

  9. beaker

    beaker Well-Known Member

    Interesting. Yeah they didnt look quite Muppet like. What what defines a Muppet? Surely a Skeksis is not a Muppet, but Land of Gorch could be distant cousins of the Skeksis. Surely Contruction Site is not Muppets...
    however if you take various dog scenes in Muppet specials, than use both "creature shop" and Muppet dogs, the line becomes blurred.
    Is DJ Monkey, Flat Eric, and Bad Andy Muppets? Are international sesame characters considered Muppets?(even if created by other companies) And when cgi Muppets become more prominent in a few years, does this mean a Muppet does not have to be of organic fleece and fur? Aw...these are the questions of our times.
  10. Hays

    Hays New Member

    Wasn't Kermit Love largely responsible for the design "look" that kind of defines Muppets?
  11. Princess Melora

    Princess Melora New Member

    The ratings are excellent, despite the questionable time slots. Disney considers Bear its signature show.

    The next logical step for the Bear franchise is to do prime-time specials, direct-to-video specials and (fingers crossed) the movie. Disney may or may not be involved.

    Right now, Bear is Henson's *only* franchise for a pre-school audience (remember -- Sesame is now owned outright by Sesame Workshop). It's been both a critical and a commercial success. They have a lot of licensing/merchendising deals rising on it.

    They not going to let it go gentle into the good night.
  12. Luke

    Luke Active Member

    Cool - i like 'Bear' very much. I am a fan of the 'Bear' more than the show though - i was at the toy fair in London earlier this year and Henson were indeed putting a lot of emphasis on 'Bear' with him there meeting and greeting in person and he was massively popular with all the delegates. It'll be cool if they do find it possible make new things without Disney as i guess that kinda takes the middleman out of the way, although i'm sure there backing is very nice. Anyway congratulations to all those working on the show, they've done the fans and the company proud.

    I'm sure you know this already but Henson have been very good over the last few years promoting and licensing it's pre-school stuff. 'The Hoobs' over here in the UK had a big McDonalds Happy Meal promotion just recently even though they haven't made any new shows in about a year and the exisiting episodes are re-running very early in the morning. The brand has been incredibly popular with kids even though there are more high profile things on other channels at better times.
  13. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    you wouldn't happen to have any, or know a second hand shop to pick up some?

    Maybe BlueFrackle would know, as well....

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