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Discussion in 'Muppet Headlines' started by jgriffee, Feb 25, 2005.
HEY! Don't you be dissin' Disney or the Muppets!
It was the extra NEW characters that FtB was using which bugged me. Ted Thomas was funny, though too much of him will ruin the fun.
I liked seeing classic characters on there better than new characters.
I hope the pilot that's been filmed will open the doors to new and better things.
I have the first 11 episodes on DVD to trade, drop me a line (click the hyperlink below)
For how much are you selling? And is there any chance you might get more?
I don't sell, I only trade.
I only have those first 11 episodes I am afraid.
I'm not saying anything new here. Read the rest of this thread. A lot of people don't like From the Balcony because Disney booted Statler and Waldorf's regular puppeteers out of their jobs.
I'm not knocking the Muppets or Statler and Waldorf. I'm knocking Disney for not caring about the Muppets or their performers.
I liked the teamsters they had. The rats were ok too. A lot of the new charatcers weren't so great though. But usually the really annoyingo nes didn't get used again.
Honestly, I liked S7W more on FtB than in recent years. Dave is great, butj ust not as Waldorf. Steve does a good voice for Waldorf, but I didn't like his performance either. While I don'tl ike the regulars being kicked off the production, I did like the ones who took over. I mean, it's not like they took the guys original characters away. Waldorf changed hands from Jim Henson to Dave, to Kevin once in awhile, then back to Dave. Statler went from Richard to JErry to Steve. I think once you get past the 1st hand off it's not as nbig a deal.
Well, DON'T KNOCK DISNEY EITHER!!!!!!
It's too bad Phillip Chapman almost never reads these boards anymore. If he did, I bet he'd enforce stricter rules against Disney-bashing right about now.
Phillip Chapman, where are yooooooooooouuuuuuuu.......
Everyone's entitled to their own opinions, despite how negative they may get (just as long as you don't cuss).
I'm very good friends with Phil and with Kevin. They know I have the right to express my opinion. We all do. You have the right to express your opinion, too. That's what a forum is for. But it isn't very polite of you to tell me what I can and can't say about Disney.
I don't totally hate Disney. I just don't agree with how they handled FtB. The only way to take a 100% pro-Disney opinion is to say that I want Dave Goelz and Steve Whitmire to lose their jobs. And I'm not going to say that.
Thank you! I see your point. I still like Dave and Steve better. But your post is an example of a polite, well-thought-out argument.
I only recently discovered FtB, and my first impressions were relatively favorable. Tho' I have to say (as others have mentioned), that without MC (which I recently joined), I probably would have NEVER heard of FtB.
I must admit that I liked the guy who was doing Statler in the later episodes (was it Drew Massey?). Waldorf not so much. The Pepe bits were generally very funny. The writing definitely varied in quality from bit to bit and episode to episode (tho there are many I still haven't seen).
Chilly Down, I think that your posts are very thoughtful and interesting. Stating an argument in an articulate fashion is certainly not "bashing" at all. Thank you for contributing your ideas and opinions. They are appreciated.
That's more inflamatory a post than saying Diz is slackin'. Constructive criticism is one thing, but this isn't constructive at all.
Phil does honor honest opinions, and people are welcome to their opinions as long as they are diplomatically shared and don't stir puddin' into a circular argument.
Please be a bit more diplomatic in the future.
I do miss Dave and Steve doing performances. At least if they were around we'd still get Beaker and Bunsen...that is if Movies.com cared to do any more of the FtB shows.
From my understanding not long ago, Drew Massey was performing Statler and Victor Yerrid was performing Waldorf. Both performing very well in my opinion (just needed to slow them down a bit, and watch what Jim and Richard did on TMS).
Any way it goes, though: I miss it. We at least had something new and Muppety.
I sent a question to Movies.com a couple weeks ago:
...and here's the answer I got:
No news is good news?
Oh please, don't the higher-ups ever listen to the fans?
Anthony, that looks like a form letter response to me.
Ah well, that's expectable.
Hey, I found something good to say about FtB!
It turns out that Joe Nussbaum was the writer on many of those episodes. Nussbaum wrote and directed the brilliant short George Lucas in Love, which manages to spoof both Star Wars and Shakespeare in Love in just under 7 minutes.
Joe finally got some other work. And he was writing for the Muppets. So those are both good things!
The response you got is an insult. Not only did they not answer your question, hey didn't even read it and then told you to use a search engine? Simply insulting. If it were me I'd rather no response at all.
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