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The Brand New Ask Jim Lewis Thread

Discussion in 'Henson People' started by dwayne1115, Jan 16, 2008.

  1. dwayne1115

    dwayne1115 Well-Known Member

    Your right, and I think that it really shows how much she not only cared for Kermit, but all the Muppets in The Muppets Take Manhattan when Kermit went missing, Piggy took the role of leader, and did it very well I might add.
     
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  2. MrBloogarFoobly

    MrBloogarFoobly Well-Known Member

    Kermit is an example of a character who hasn't been Flanderized, necessarily, but he has been given lots of prozac. :p Kermit used to be a bit high strung, with a little bit of a mean streak. He was charismatic, but vulnerable. Now, he's pretty much Hey Arnold! - Mellow, meek, and prone to "go get 'em" speeches.

    Now, you could chock it up to the performers changing, but it would appear as if Jim Henson and Steve Whitmire had/have similar personalities, with the same playful, sometimes dirty or naughty sense of humor. It clearly comes out in Rizzo.

    (And then I stepped back for a moment and realized we're talking about puppet frogs and pigs. Haha. Muppet Fandom...)
     
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  3. Duke Remington

    Duke Remington Well-Known Member

    Have you asked him this yet?
     
  4. dwayne1115

    dwayne1115 Well-Known Member

    No I'm sorry I have not I was kind of waiting to see if anyone had any other questions. If not then after Thanksgiving I will ask.
     
  5. Duke Remington

    Duke Remington Well-Known Member

    Okay. Just curious.

    I REALLY want him to stop ruining Piggy's character and stop depicting her as such as a big one-dimensional jerk who goes around yelling at and hitting people every other minute, no matter how contrived the reason. Getting mad at another woman for innocently standing next to Kermit, for example, is pathetic, awful, way too mean-spirited and needs to stop, since it crosses the line! Plus, the whole "what did you say? HI-YA!" schtick needs to be dropped--it's just as annoying and irritating as doing the whole "set-up-jealous-Piggy-and-watch-her-hit-someone" routine instead of writing actual material for these things.

    The pig seriously needs to recieve more negative karma, fall victim to a slaptick again, resume expressing that she DOES care about the other Muppets and referring to them as her friends and, most of important of all, she needs to be treated to another "Friends hug, they don't spy" type of conversation.

    He also needs to stop making Kermit such a coward and too unafraid to stand up to the pig, since Jim's Kermit DID have the guts to stand up to the pig, put her in her place or even yell at her at times when she crossed the line in the Muppet Show days.
     
  6. dwayne1115

    dwayne1115 Well-Known Member

    Well in Jim's defense I think one of the last major productions he has written have been A Very Merry Muppet Christmas, Kermit Swamp Years, and he helped with the Studio DC shows. Most of the more recent things have been written by other people, which personally I have a problem with. So I am not sure if it's all Jim's fault, but I will still ask the question.
     
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  7. Duke Remington

    Duke Remington Well-Known Member

    Good point. But if that's truly the case, I do think he and the others need to speak out and tell those other writers how to write for the characters properly. Especially in those often-stupid guest appearances where they seem pretty much forced to do the schticks that we loathe and despise (various talk shows, Good Luck Charlie, possibly the Lady Gage special, etc.)--the writers for those things REALLY don't understand the characters and need those kinds of coachings.
     
  8. dwayne1115

    dwayne1115 Well-Known Member

    Personally I could not agree more! I have said, and have had some people agree with me that Jim should be the new head writer of the Muppets. Of you listen to some of the Muppeters they always seem to talk about Jim in a very high regard, due to the fact that he has great way of writing for the Muppets. Sadly last I heard he is not doing much writing for the Muppets anymore, which is a waste.
     
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  9. Duke Remington

    Duke Remington Well-Known Member

    True. The last things I remember him writing for were the Muppet viral videos and The Muppets' Kitchen with Cat Cora. Unless I'm proven wrong.

    If it's true that Lewis isn't really writing for the Muppets anymore, and if the character Flanderizations are truly not his fault, then they should get him back and make him the next Jerry Juhl or at least start consulting him on these things to make sure the characters get written properly in the future and not be depicted so one-dimensionally.
     
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  10. dwayne1115

    dwayne1115 Well-Known Member

    According to Muppet Wiki Craig Shemin wrote the cooking show, but I do recall asking Jim about the one that had patrol bear, and he said that Fozzie's costume was the original from the Muppet Show skits.
    Here is the article for that:
    http://muppet.wikia.com/wiki/Cooking_with_Cat_Cora

    I was also looking at the last interview we did with Jim, for the Muppet Mindset, and I think if you read that and some of our other interviews and Q's and A's the answer may be there. Still it will be interesting what he has to say about your question.
     
  11. Duke Remington

    Duke Remington Well-Known Member

    Now that you mentioned that Craig Shemin wrote Muppets Kitchen, Piggy was Flanderized in that one too--in one episode, she was depicted as the one-dimensional "What did you say? HI-YA!" version of herself that we Muppet fans loathe and despise. Unless that bit wasn't his fault.

    Regardless, I hope Lewis won't have any ill-will against me. I always thought he was still writing a lot of the stuff, not knowing who else has been writing for them lately.

    It would be nice to know who the heck has been writing the Muppets' material in their recent guest appearances so I can direct my disgust at the correct sources.
     
  12. fozzieisfunny

    fozzieisfunny Well-Known Member

    Here is my question to Jim Lewis, if he's still taking questions:

    Hey, Jim!! It's an honor to type this message to one of the great Muppet writers in the entire universe. But, I have two questions: 1. How many Muppet movies, TV specials, videos, or basically anything have you wrote? ( Please include the things that you have wrote.) I am too lazy to look this up on Muppet Wiki, so cut me some slack! Now, 2. Have you ever written with Jerry Juhl? I know you probably have, and once again, I am too lazy to look this up again. So, I'm doing this old-fashioned style!!!! I'm sorry if these questions have already been asked, so I do apologize if they have.
     
  13. dwayne1115

    dwayne1115 Well-Known Member

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