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The Fanfic Research Thread

Discussion in 'Fan Fiction' started by Slackbot, Feb 5, 2012.

  1. Slackbot

    Slackbot Well-Known Member

    Y'ever get stuck on a detail while writing a fanfic? Want to ask for a reality check from other fanfic authors? This just might be the thread for you. I've got questions, and anyone else is free to chime in with answers and questions of their own.

    So--in Muppet Babies, what do the characters drink out of? So any of them use bottles or sippy cups? If none of the main characters use those, have they had any "visitors" who did?
  2. bouncingbabyfig

    bouncingbabyfig Well-Known Member

    I don't really remember them drinking out of anything, 'course I haven't seen all the episodes. But in one I remember them drinking sippy cups. Hope that helps you!
    My Question: Was there ever any fraggle couples? I heard a lot about Mokey and boober, or something like that.:p I never really watched a lot of Fraggle Rock. Supposedly they are making a movie coming out in 2013. But with Disney, who knows?:D
  3. Muppet fan 123

    Muppet fan 123 Well-Known Member

    Disney doesn't own Fraggle Rock. It's still owned by Henson.
    No one really knows what's going on with that movie, new news pops up every so often, no release date for it yet!
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  4. charlietheowl

    charlietheowl Well-Known Member

    1. The Disney company doesn't own Fraggle Rock; the Henson company still owns the rights. There is still a movie allegedly in development with New Regency Films, but it's very early and tenuous.

    2. As for couples in Fraggle Rock, there are a lot of different opinions on who should be paired up with who, if at all, but nothing is explicitly stated in the show. The two most common pairings on this board's stories appear to be Gobo/Red and Boober/Mokey, and there are some moments in the show where you could certainly "read between the lines" and see that affection played out. There's a lot of room for freedom if you wanted to write a certain pairing that's a little uncommon, but I'd suggest watching a lot of the show first, because it'll give you a feel for the characters and the show is mind-bogglingly amazing.
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  5. Slackbot

    Slackbot Well-Known Member

    There are no canon couples among the Fraggles. You can see affection, definitely, but the closest we get to a couple is Traveling Matt and The Storyteller, and Matt seems to be oblivious to her. But maybe he's not completely oblivious, according to Terry Angus.
  6. mostlikemokey

    mostlikemokey Well-Known Member

    Uh... I hate to correct you, but Disney doesn't own Fraggle Rock. As for your question, there were never any official pairings, but:

    • There is evidence for Boober/Mokey, Gobo/Mokey, and Gobo/Red, so take your pick .
    • Boober was known to admire a Fraggle called Tosh.
    • Wembley had a friend named Lou, but other than the romance in "we Love You, Wembley," she faded into the background. Most people pair them up anyway, If he has a pairing at all.
    Does this mean you're writing a Fraggle Rock fic? Bet it'd be good.
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  7. bouncingbabyfig

    bouncingbabyfig Well-Known Member

    Thanks guys, I din't mean to put Disney, I meant to put the Jim Henson Company, I'm also on Disney at the moment. Sorry for being side tracked.:p;)
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  8. mostlikemokey

    mostlikemokey Well-Known Member

    OK, what does Camilla, (Gonzo's chicken girlfriend) eat? is that revealed in any episodes? Bird seed? Chicken feed?
  9. newsmanfan

    newsmanfan Well-Known Member

    I've seen her pecking at corn in one ep (their first big date, though I forget what ep). She is, however, allergic to wildflowers...so I'm guessing no seed-foraging!

  10. WebMistressGina

    WebMistressGina Well-Known Member

    Yeah, found it! Okay, so I has the questions, h'okay, which I kinda started asking in Ru's Kermie's Girl fic (sorry! :o Super excited!:super:), but I'll ask here and then maybe give the reasons of why I asked. Wanna make sure before I delve in - yet another fandom - I is prepared.

    Okay? Okay!

    #1. Is Scooter's real name Scooter?
    So I asked this in the KG thread and The Count mentioned that it probably was, in order to differeniate from the nickname on Dinosaurs, which makes sense, however Slackbot also mentions that, like me, Scooter doesn't seem like an actual birth certificate name, you know? My thought is that it's a childhood nickname and I just came up with an idea to explain that. :search:

    #2. Is Fozzie's real name Fozzie?
    For some reason, I think this is the same case as Scooter and I seem to remember that in the Muppet Family Christmas, his mom calls him by his full name. Now, my memory is sometimes suspect, especially when trying to remember things that I saw as a kid.:o

    #3. Is The Muppet Movie true?
    By that I mean, is it a true story or a Hollywood true story? I ask because I've been thinking about it and while I believe - in my heart of hearts - it's a movie based on a true story, I think the movie itself is Hollywood true story.

    #4. Are Muppet Studios on the same lot/adjacent to Muppet Theater?
    I ask because of the new movie; see, I always thought the studio and the theater were in two different locations, but in Muppets 2011, at the very beginning when Walter has his inside Muppet Studio tour book, it looks like the theater is surrounded by the different attractions of the studios. I'm gonna watch it again and maybe screen shot it, but wanted to know if something was said shown that is different than this

    #5. Is Muppet Babies canon?
    Let me say that, I love MB first of all and I'm not saying that those events never happened, however...the reason TMTM had been my favorite Muppet movie was because of the Muppet Babies scene (OMG Rowlf is the most adorable thing, ever! :excited:), so of course as a kid, I never thought anything about it. So, after watching the movie as an adult, I realized that MB technically is an alt universe because Piggy states that she wished she had met Kermit much earlier. Sometimes my adult mind and inner child have different interpretations of stuff that I then have to muddle through. :rolleyes:

    #6. (last question, I swear!) Is Kermit and Piggy's house one story or two?
    I mean the house they apparently shared in Muppets 2011. It looks kind two story on the outside, but inside it looks one story.

    Okay, I think that's it. So, I'm well aware that I can pretty much make my own interpretations on all things Muppet, within reason of course, I just want to clarify and ask before I delve into a fic (especially when I should be working on other fics :o) and that it makes sense and stuffs.

    Oh and many Garcias in advance for the help!
  11. The Count

    The Count Moderator Staff Member

    Robin: Uncle Kermit, is this the true story of how the Muppets met?
    :): Well, it's a close approximation thereof.

    And then during the extended ending...
    :): What'd you think Robin?
    Robin: Uncle Kermit, I think you're a great actor.
    :): That wasn't acting, that was real life.

    So make of that what you will. True story, semi-true story, Hollywood true story (not to be confused with E!'s True Hollywood Stories).

    MB is difficult to answer, we have a thread about that with Drtooth being the principal proponent of the Piggy's fantasy rationalization, even though you do end up with a movie reel of the very first Christmas the Muppet babies shared together during Muppet Family Christmas (MFC). There are those like RedPiggy who on the other hand see MB as an actual possibility, being looked after Nanny for most of the day and sometimes nights before returning to their individual families. This second theory is also found in ReneeLouvier's Sadie's Stories, though you have to read through to Book 4 In Search of Sadie to find it.

    Hope this helps.
  12. Slackbot

    Slackbot Well-Known Member

    2. I don't recall Fozzie ever having a "full name." You can see the full, unedited Muppet Family Christmas on Youtube, if you want to research it. In fact...

    3. At the beginning , when the Muppets are about to watch the screening of TMM, Robin asks Kermit...
    So, it's not the absolute truth.

    4. I don't believe that's ever been addressed except in The Muppets.

    5. If you can come up with a reasonable explanation that allows Muppet Babies to be canon while also accepting the characters meeting up sort of approximately the way they did in TMM, and do it without a time machine, I'll be impressed. The way I see it, MB is complete AU.

    6. It's one story, but there are two sides to every story. ;)

    BTW, Gina, off-topic: is RBcorner gone? I just tried to go there and t seems to be 404. And if you remember my ReBoot fic, well, I'm still at it over here. You can find most of my stuff listed in Ed's fanfic library thread.

    Edit: Curses! Ziffeled again!
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  13. WebMistressGina

    WebMistressGina Well-Known Member

    many Garcias! I was trying to find this, as someone one YT I think mentioned that the actual video cut out a lot of the scenes that the original had. I saw the original on TV (which I believed was followed by Emmit Otter's jug band), so I was kinda disappointed that I wouldn't be able to find the one I saw.

    That's what I was thinking. I actually had a hankering to watch TMM later tonight with The Muppet (the child, not the characters or movie)

    Oh good! :) Works in my plans then.

    Well again, it was my adult self that realized that MB is kinda contridictory, however none of the movies are tied together and even the Muppet Show can be in and out of canon.

    Personally, while I loved the show, there was one character that irked me and whom I felt shouldn't have been there and that was Skeeter. Now, while I disliked Skeeter and will probably never use her in anything, the good news is I don't hate her as much as I hate a certain puppy who not only managed to dismantle Mysteries Inc, but the Beatles too and probably other classic rock groups of the 60s and 70s.

    Good to know. Haven't worked out my idea for the house yet, but I'm thinking one story myself.

    You know, I was there yesterday and got the same thing, which of course really worries me as, all of my stories are still there (mostly) and it's the place I go when I update the RB portion of my website.

    The new Java Hut is up, but I didn't see any posts about it, which I should probably see if this has been going on longer than just yesterday. Technically, I'm still working on the Beginnings Saga and ReBoot Wars...and that's just RB. No worries, people! The longest I've gone without updating a story was...um...a few years, but I do come back!

    I will eventually finish everything I've started. Before I'm 50. That's a goal now.

    Sweet! I think I got the answers and clarification that I needed! All right!

  14. Slackbot

    Slackbot Well-Known Member

    Yup. My personal logic is that The Muppets are entertainers. What we see are performances. Some are based on reality, some are pure flights of fancy. Which is which? They ain't tellin'. This allows me to pick and choose the elements I like. Convenient, eh?
    You...likened Skeeter to Scrappy-Doo?! Fellow 'Booter or not, I'm gonna have to hurt you for that. Get over here and present your shins for a kickin'.

    I liked Skeeter in the cartoon. I wouldn't go as far as calling myself a fan, but I could appreciate the gutsy little ankle-biter. Anyone who'll stand up to Piggy is all right in my book. And in the Boom! comics, Langridge and Mebberson gave us an adult Skeeter that won many, many fans over. That's the Skeeter that appears in my fics.
    I home that the Java Hut is not gone. I hate it when the grand old sites from the heyday of the fandom vanish. I felt like wearing a black armband when A Minor Glitch disappeared. (Slack & Hash's Domain ain't going nowhere as long as I have anything to say about it!)
  15. miss kermie

    miss kermie Well-Known Member

    That was The Leslie Uggams episode.
  16. WebMistressGina

    WebMistressGina Well-Known Member

    Hey, very quick question -

    Are there any noodle incidents that have happened during the course of the show or movies? For anyone who doesn't know, a noodle incident is a story or incident that has taken place outside of the viewing audience and is referred by characters, but never actually explained.

    It's taken from the Calvin and Hobbes strip in which Calvin was involved in some sort of incident at school that - IIRC - involved teachers, noodles, and the police. It's mentioned off and on, usually with Calvin stating that no one saw him do it and it can't be proved that he was there, etc, but the actual incident is never explained.

    I originally had an idea for Star Trek TNG with this, but the idea kinda does make a bit more sense in the Muppetverse, considering who are characters are. Miss Ru had a really funny line in, I think Kermie's Girl, where Piggy's agent Marty reminded her that she didn't want to do community service again, which I thought not only funny, but true and in light of the idea I'm working on, it's kinda gotten in my head that there are probably some crazy stories out there.

    And yes, this will be a fic at some point. And yes, I did manage to actually start something yesterday. And yes, I might even work on it later today.
  17. The Count

    The Count Moderator Staff Member

    Not that I know of. Not saying they don't exist, just that I'm not familiar with the example in order to provide instances in the Muppaverse/Hensondom.
  18. Slackbot

    Slackbot Well-Known Member

    Hmm... would Janice's experiences with nude beaches and photography count?
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  19. charlietheowl

    charlietheowl Well-Known Member

    The "banana sketch" could work, if you presume that everyone has actually witnessed it and it aware of the joke.
  20. miss kermie

    miss kermie Well-Known Member

    Um, when Gonzo said he lived in a cement mixer?

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