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Discussion in 'Henson Alternative' started by stephenjlizard, Oct 15, 2008.

  1. Oscarfan

    Oscarfan Well-Known Member

    K. Two good things about the movie - the puppetry and Maya Rudolph.

    That's about it.
  2. CBPuppets

    CBPuppets Well-Known Member

    It's understandable :)
  3. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    Nothing against Maya Rudolph, but like many other former SNL castmembers, she's just gotten rather overrated and overused in recent years. Not to the extent of, say, Kristen Wiig or Bill Hader, but still.
  4. Oscarfan

    Oscarfan Well-Known Member

    Overrated =/= overused.

    I mean, SNL turns out great talent. What do you expect?
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  5. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    But, do they have to continually be shoe-horned into every single mainstream comedy movie for years afterwards when practically any other lesser-known comedic actors could be given a chance to boost their careers?
  6. Old Thunder

    Old Thunder Well-Known Member

    Fun fact: Sometimes lesser-known comedic actors suck and the popular ones actually deserve their popularity. Sometimes the popular ones worked really hard to get this far in life and it isn’t fun being constantly attacked for simply being popular. Come on.
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  7. MikaelaMuppet

    MikaelaMuppet Well-Known Member

    My mom does like Melissa McCarthy though. :)
  8. CBPuppets

    CBPuppets Well-Known Member

    I like Melissa McCarthy too, I enjoyed her performance on Mike and Molly
  9. MikaelaMuppet

    MikaelaMuppet Well-Known Member

    Do you like her movies?
  10. CBPuppets

    CBPuppets Well-Known Member

    I do actually
  11. MikaelaMuppet

    MikaelaMuppet Well-Known Member

    I haven't seen anything by her, but which is your favorite?
  12. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    Not always. Case in point: Steve Carrell. Stiff, wooden, deadpan, no emotion, no connection. Yet, he was everywhere in the late 2000s and early New Tens. Then you got the ones who are always typecast in the same roles over and over again, like Will Ferrell as arrogant, shallow, one-note, sketch show-esque *********, or Kristen Wiig as awkwardly stupid or stupidly awkward dumb broads.

    There's plenty of cases where the lesser-known comedic actors are basically held back by the powers that be, especially when it comes to women, and even SNL wasn't immune to that.
  13. MrBloogarFoobly

    MrBloogarFoobly Well-Known Member

    Oh no, a difference of opinion on Muppet Central. Quick, ban everybody involved. ;P

    They developed this steamer for 10 years. Looks like Brian Henson should have sat on it for another 10. This hurts the chances of him continuing to make movies, which is sad, as he is actually a talented filmmaker.
  14. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    And from the sounds of it, this may possibly hurt the chances of puppetry having a more prominent place in mainstream entertainment . . . even though, as I said, if it did, then it'd probably only further divide puppetry into kids only or adults only.
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  15. MartyMuppets

    MartyMuppets Well-Known Member

    I have already made my decision after seeing the trailer. I agree with you that gratuitous crudity is not funny at all. I have enjoyed some adult humour shows some of them Muppet related, for example, Muppets Tonight, but this oversteps the mark for me personally.

    Therefore I'll be giving this movie a miss.
  16. CBPuppets

    CBPuppets Well-Known Member

    It sounds like that if Brian Henson were to make another adult puppet film, the shock value (speaking in terms of sex and violence) should at least be toned down.
  17. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    Funny how Brian kept swearing that the R-rated content wasn't R-rated for the sake of being R-rated, yet this is what so many people are complaining about: the R-rated content for the sake of being R-rated.

    Honestly, when Brian kept saying that the content was R-rated in an organic way that would make sense in context in real-life situations, it really makes me wonder . . . what kind of "real-life situations" are we talking about where such R-rated behavior would be "organic"? Orgies? Frat houses? It kind of reminds me how they said the reason the movie BRIDESMAIDS was so successful was because it "finally" gave real women characters they could "actually relate to" . . . I'd hate to meet the kind of women who would relate to such characters as those.
  18. MartyMuppets

    MartyMuppets Well-Known Member

    Obviously there is a conflict between the way Brian sees it and the way all these people speaking out see it. It makes me wonder though Snowth, just what exactly is the definition of R-rating for the sake of being an R-rating? What is the point of such a statement?

    I can't see any logical explanation except that the sake of being would be that Brian wanted it to have R-rated material. Then those of us who object to R-rated themes for the sake of it, simply means that we vehemently disagree about the way Brian wanted to make his movie like. So in effect Brian's protests that he didn't make it this way for the sake of it is him saying that he doesn't care what the critics say about it.

    And on top of that it gets even more confusing because I just said the rating for the ratings sake would mean that he wanted it to have that rating. So his statement of protest contradicts what I perceive as the logical definition.
    Last edited: Aug 27, 2018
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  19. Blue Frackle

    Blue Frackle Well-Known Member

    Like let's make it as raunchy as possible just because R-rated = adult and they want to push that puppets can be for adults too... when his dad proved that decades ago.

    It's like they had a checklist for the film of things that make a film rated R, but whatever; this thread is becoming an echo chamber.
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  20. BlakeConor14

    BlakeConor14 Well-Known Member

    Well I've just come back from seeing the film and...

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