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The MuppetCast - Show #35 - Don't Freeze Your Winnebago

Discussion in 'On the Web' started by stephenjlizard, Dec 9, 2007.

  1. Really good stuff again this week! This time we're looking and listening to pieces of "A Muppet Family Christmas" and "John Denver & the Muppets: A Christmas Together."

    We also hear from returning friend of the show, writer Jim Lewis. He's great as always, and I think he's probably a lot happier now that he knows that Muppet Family Christmas is on DVD, lol.

    I hope she sees it here, because I have to say a HUGE thank you to new MC user ChelseyBlair! The Count passed along some stuff that she provided and it couldn't have come at a more perfect time in putting together this episode.

    Please make sure you go out to The MuppetCast's Flickr page this week and see Trish Hausmann's incredible wall hanging Muppet quilt! This thing is so cool, and I'm considering "commissioning" some work from her myself, lol!

    I think that's it. I hope the sound quality's okay, because I did a fair amount of cutting in between, "unedited" and "edited" footage in Muppet Family Christmas. I think it sounds good, but then again it's been 13 hours for me at this point. And I'm really more interested in you guys' opinion anyway. :)

    Questions and comments, as always, can be left here, or can be emailed to me@muppetcast.com. Or, if you're stuck in traffic like Jamie was this week, call and leave me a voicemail at 614-364-4270.

    Careful out there in that snow and ice, those of us who are unlucky enough to live in places with too much of it.

    Have a great week!
  2. The Count

    The Count Moderator Staff Member

    Listening to it fright now. Am at John's solo Christmas song "A Baby Like You".
    Wil come back after finishing.

    Edit: Finished the episode, quick points to expound on later.
    1 Leslie Karrara-Rudolph voices/performs Abby.
    2 "Words" or "Friends".
    3 Check Erin Roll 'Muppet Newsgirl's AIDS quilt patch for Richard Hunt.
    4 Forgot the Christmas Turkey from MFC.
    5 Doc asks Sprocket if the Muppets arriving at the farmhouse are the Fraggles he keeps telling him about.
    6 Mock-Swedish Google.
    7 John Denver and Scooter.
  3. The Count

    The Count Moderator Staff Member

    OK... Time to come in and talk about my thoughts for this week's Muppetcast.

    Have to say that I like the almost two-hour format for these special Christmas reviews.
    First, the intro by Gonzo! Prawny! Get in here and listen to this!

    Abby Cadaby is voiced/performed by Muppeteer Leslie Karrara-Rudolph, familiar to older Muppet fans as she's the one who voiced/performed Spamela Hamderson on Muppets Tonight. There were a couple of good songs sung by Abby this past season, "Words" and "Girlfriends" with Rosita and Zoe. Sent you the latter, hope you got it and can use it next week.

    Regarding Jim Lewis's comments on writing for the Swedish Chef. That's interesting to know how to go about doing it, since some of us cast him with dialogue in our fanfics or at the dorms. Course, it helps that there his roommate's a teenage Chicagoan who understands his mock-Swedish fluently. On that note, there's a software application available made by one of the big computer boys (probably Microsoft though I could be wrong) that takes normal English text you type into it and automatically translates it into mock-Swedish.

    Yes, MFC is available on DVD... But it would be better to ask for it here from KermiClown or one of the other various tape traders. If you ask the guys here, you can get the full unedited version. If you buy the official release, prepare for several scenes cut out due to legal issues like the Muppet Babies home movies, Fozzie and the Snowman comedy act, and the like.

    If you do end up commissioning some quiltwork, please let the rest of us know how it went as we might be interested . Additionally, I would recommend you ask MC member Muppet Newsgirl for a digital copy of the photo of the panel she and her mother lovingly crafted for the National AIDS Quilt in honor and name of Richard Hunt as it's filled with his main Muppets. Would hope that either of the first two weekends in January you could maybe dedicate an episode as tribute to RH as he's known here.

    Listening to Christmas Together's coverage was great, as I haven't seen that one in so long I've pretty much forgotten how it went. Would argue that the elaborate number John and Piggy put on is Christmassy, sort of March of the Toy Soldiers/Toyland. Which makes me pine for another Christmas special noone seems to want to air anymore, the original version of Babes in Toyland with Tommy Kirk as Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son and Annette Fumnicello as Mary, Mary, Quite Contrary. Man I miss that one.

    Small correction: The song Big Bird and The Swedish Chef sing in MFC is "Chestnuts Roasting On An Open Fire".
    Finally... MFC... What can be said. Actually, I remember the Winter of 1988 rushing to the TV set, excited to catch this, a new Muppets special airing for the first time that night. This, along with the 30th Anniversary Special are the gold standards in terms of Muppet specials, as as much of the family's gathered together. It's a bit old I know, but you might also want to check out Vic Romano's Weekly Creative Visuals, a thread in the FanFic & FanArt section. There's lots of crazy, sentimental, strange stuff there... But of note is the piece he made titled "Muppet Family Gathering" posted on 11-03-2006. There are very funny lines of dialogue in MFC, one of which is Doc in an aside to Sprocket asking if these (the Muppets) are those Fraggles his canine companion keeps telling him about. Also funny is Gonzo getting into a fight with the Christmas Turkey over Camilla's affections just before the Sesame gang makes their way o'er the hills approaching the farmhouse. As I heard the podcast last night with the caroll sing, memories started coming back to me of Christmases past for my family and me... Some special ones in particular... And then with a smile as Jim in the kitchen enjoys his family having fun at this time of year. It just brings it all back home. So I thank you for the happy stinging tears and can only await the next episode with as much eagerness and joy, thinking of the next Muppet Christmas special to be chronicled.
  4. theprawncracker

    theprawncracker Well-Known Member

    Hey Steve! Listening to show #35 now, must say, it's fantastic!

    LOVED the Gonzo intro! Gave my idea for one of my own recorded intros that I'll e-mail you about later. I think it could be a lot of fun.

    I agree with you, the Big Bird/Swedish Chef number is one of my all-time favorites. Great analysis of the story of "A Muppet Family Christmas" so far! Just got to the break with Jim Lewis, and his opening line was a zinger! Ha!

    AH! Wait! He's talking about more character books! WOOOOOOOOW! Oh SO exciting! I LOVE JIM LEWIS! He's so funny, and so cool! Wow!

    Love it Steve! Thanks for continuing to work so hard doing this!
  5. dwayne1115

    dwayne1115 Well-Known Member

    Yea i cant wait to see more books like before you leap that will be great to see. and i also think it is a good way to intoduce the muppets to people.
  6. Count, I'm still forming my response to your earlier post. My first draft should come back from the publisher today, lol.

    prawny, I await your intros. You do know that that was the REAL Gonzo, right? Dave was kind enough to do two intros, the second of which you'll hear this week.

    Like I said in the twitter feed (http://twitter.com/muppetcast), next up this week is Very Muppet Christmas Movie. So, anything anyone has that would add to that show would be much appreciated!
  7. The Count

    The Count Moderator Staff Member

    No worries Steve. About VMMCM or It's a Very Merry Muppet Christmas Movie...
    There's the infamous cut Snoop-Dog scene.
    It originally aired on Thanksgiving Night in 2002. Kermit and Piggy did a live interview with Al Roeker from the Macy's Day T-Day parade route before the parade began earlier that morning.
    That was the year the Kermit balloon came back, and just like this year, they suckered me into staying the whole two hours to see it.

    VMMCM has also been the subject of two different sets of fanfics here at MC. The first, written by "Bo" Beauregard is his DarkUniverse or Visions series. These, as he said, are to showcase a cyclical continuation throughout four stories showing what happened after Kermit left the world in which he was never born. The second is currently stalled.
    The second fanfic series is Sean (muppetwriter)'s Marvelous Muppets, where he takes the script/events of the various comic book movies and blends them with Muppets and other cartoon franchise characters. The events of VMMCM figure prominently in his short stand-alone piece "The Most Marvelous Time Of The Year" and Spider-Man/Muppets 3, "The Spectacular".
    Looking forward to this and have a good day buddy.
  8. theprawncracker

    theprawncracker Well-Known Member

    Will send the intro soon-ish... much homework bogging me down currently.

    And yes, I was well aware it was the REAL Gonzo. I was SO happy and thrilled and-- *explodes*
  9. minor muppetz

    minor muppetz Well-Known Member

    I thought that this podcast was great. Though while Jim Lewis thinks that A Muppet Family Christmas was the Muppets biggest crossover (or something like that... I forget what it was he said), I think that the 30th anniversary special had more Muppets in it.
  10. dwayne1115

    dwayne1115 Well-Known Member

    As For AVMMC I think it was a trademark Muppet movie because we got to see some of our fav Muppets make a good return with some speaking roles.

    Rolf The Dog
    Dr. Theeth
    and the big one was Scooter he was a big part of the whole movie.

    It also was set back in the good ol' muppet theater, and for me that made it seem like the muppets where finaly home. That also made it seem like the dream that they wanted so real that they wanted to own the theater for years seemed to be real to me.

    There was also the relationship of Kermit and Piggy. In this movie it was truly broght back to the days of the Muppet show. There relationship was deep down they both really need each other to be the people they have become and are. Then at the end when Kermit kissed Piggy it didn't just make her day but i think that it made her whole year. so there is a lot to talk about this movie .
  11. It seems like almost all of the Muppets understand mock-Swedish. We're the only ones left out of the equation, lol. The online service you're thinking about that takes online content and translates it on-the-fly to "Bork, bork, bork" is Google. There's a language setting in the "Advanced Settings" page, and it's hilarious!

    I sent a msg to Newsgirl about her contributions to the AIDS quilt, but so far haven't gotten a response. Still waiting.

    I watched A Christmas Together again this week with my wife, who had never seen it. She agreed that the "Camaraderie" number wasn't inherently Christmas-y (and she never agrees with me, so I think I may be right on this one, lol), but she also said that they did a good job giving the number an overall Christmas feel.

    I also have to stand by my song title from earlier. There's no Christmas song called "Chestnuts Roasting on an Open Fire". That's actually the first line of The Christmas Song. And yes, I know it's going to be stuck in your head all day now, and you're welcome.

    I agree that these Christmas episodes are going well. Too bad we can't do more of them! With only 2 more weeks til Christmas, that limits our time, but probably makes it more special. But, I've made a decision. Because I still have so much more that I want to cover, and because people have been so generous in contributing Christmas audio, I'm doing THREE more shows leading up to Christmas. One this Sunday (VMX), one next Sunday (MCC), and a third show to be posted ON CHRISTMAS EVE. I'm starting on it now, so all I have to do on that day is just push the button and have it post on the website that morning, but it's just another way to put more Muppet-y podcast-y goodness out there for all of us to enjoy this holiday season. Sound good?
  12. dwayne1115

    dwayne1115 Well-Known Member

    Wow a christmas eve show that sounds cool. I have one question though there are some great Sesame Street Christmas shows out there are you going to talk about any of them soon?
  13. I have to admit that I haven't seen many of the Sesame Christmas specials (and I'm preparing to dodge all the tomatoes about to be thrown at me), but I love love love the Sesame Street Christmas albums, and you can expect to hear a lot of that on the Christmas Eve show. Fair enough?
  14. dwayne1115

    dwayne1115 Well-Known Member

    Sounds fair hey maybe for Christmas ill get ya one of the Sesame Street DVD's or if they are still out the three pack of them.
  15. The Count

    The Count Moderator Staff Member

    Thanks Steve. Yeah, found out about the song by listening to MCR. Oh well...

    As far as SST Christmas specials go...
    Christmas Eve on Sesame Street is a must.
    There's A Sesame Street Christmas Special from around the same time.
    Elmo Saves Christmas is sort of the modern classic.
    Then you've got Elmo's World: Happy Holidays and Elmo's Christmas Countdown aring this Tuesday 12/18/2007 at 8 PM on ABC, and A Sesame Street Christmas Caroll released last year.
    Hope this helps and I'm looking forward to everything you've got.
  16. theprawncracker

    theprawncracker Well-Known Member

    Hey Ed, correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Elmo's Christmas Countdown premiering on December 23rd, not December 18th? :confused:
  17. The Count

    The Count Moderator Staff Member

    Is it? I've been under the impression that it would air on the Tuesday before Christmas. You'd have to check both Muppet News Flash and your local listings to make sure though.
    Hope this helps.
  18. theprawncracker

    theprawncracker Well-Known Member

    Well, both Muppet Wiki and Muppet Newsflash say the 23rd... so I assume it's a pretty good bet that that's when it'll air. :p I'm super excited about it.
  19. The Count

    The Count Moderator Staff Member

    Yes... Just remembered, as a fan of ESPN2's Mike & Mike in the Morning, the new game show named Duel hosted by Michael "Greenie" Greenberg will air Tuesday night (the entire week for that matter) instead.
    Oh well, will still tune in to Elmo's Christmas Countdown anyway.
  20. I was gonna say, unless my DVR told me wrong, it's set to record on the 23rd!

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