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Traditional Animation: The Return

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Super Scooter, May 10, 2008.

  1. Super Scooter New Member

    The Walt Disney Company returns to their roots with the upcoming feature film The Princess and the Frog. It's scheduled for the end of 2009, and it will be the first traditionally animated movie from the company in five years! Not only that, it's a musical! Finally, a return to the type of work that made the Disney movies such classics.

    I thought that the success of Enchanted might have helped prompt this, but I guess it was in production while that was. This could only mean good things for the future of Disney movies and, perhaps the type of Muppet films we'll be seeing.
  2. D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    Well... two things...

    1. I'm happy to see traditional animation is making a comeback for feature films in general!
    2. Does it HAVE to be another Disneyized fairy tale?
  3. wwfpooh New Member

    1. Ditto.
    2.It's the Mouse House, what did you expect?
  4. Oscarfan Well-Known Member

    I prefer 2D to 3D. I've actually started an intrest in actually animating (insted of my usual doodling).
  5. wwfpooh New Member

    Hopefully, with this return to classic animation, Disney will re-open its once-closed animation labs that were in Disney World or whatever.
  6. theprawncracker Well-Known Member

    That is absolutely fantastic news! Thanks for reporting it Super Scoot! The Disney traditonally animated films are some of my all-time favorite movies, The Lion King, Aladdin, Beauty and the Beast... all amazing classics.

    I'm a fan of the new-age Pixar animation, yes, but there's just something especially magical about classic animation.

    I thought I read somewhere that Diz had a Rapunzel film in the works as well...?
  7. AnimatedC9000 Well-Known Member

    That's right. It's a... 2D-on-3D film, isn't it?
  8. wwfpooh New Member

  9. frogboy4 Inactive Member

    I'm excited!

    Here's a look at a production photo, the film logo, and some early conceptual art that's been bouncing about the web.

    :flirt: Yes, this will be the first black princess for a Disney animated film. The film is described as, "A female twist on the traditional Frog Prince tale that takes place in New Orlean's French Quarter." The film is due out Christmas Day of next year (2009). Hey, maybe it will have a trailer for the next Muppet film?

    :search: The film is helmed by directors Ron Clements and John Musker (directors of The Little Mermaid, Aladdin, The Great Mouse Detective, Treasure Planet, Hercules) who also wrote and are producing this picture. That's a good sign. These guys are largely responsible for much of the renaissance in Disney animated films rather than the missteps of The Hunchback of Notre Dame, Pocahontas and Brother Bear (sure, Treasure Planet underperformed and had some issues, but I actually liked that telling very much).

    I feel less of a sense of affirmative action with this film telling. I feel that it is long overdue! Disney already has Pocahontas, Mulan, Jasmine and countless Caucasian princesses in films and printed on just about every type of product imaginable. The country has already seemed to catch up with the times. Can we blame this on Eisner too? Just kidding. ;)

    I hope this film takes off. There really aren't any blockbuster voice talents attached to the picture (I only recognize John Goodman's name as the probable narrator). The film will stand on its artistry from two of the best people that happened to Disney's traditional animation since the Nine Old Men.
  10. wwfpooh New Member

    Now, if only the dudes who composed the scores for the Modern Classics were still around to oversee production of the score...:D
  11. frogboy4 Inactive Member

    Nope. Unfortunately it will feature "orignial work by Randy Newman" instead of hiring Beauty and the Beast, Aladdin, Lion King and of course Little Mermaid veteran - Alan Menken. His work on Enchanted was so inpsired I don't understand this Newman turn here. I know Randy's got a lot of fans around Muppet Central so I won't go out on a rant here. He's okay with me in small doses, but I'm just not a particular fan of his. I associate him more with Pixar and Toy Story movies than this sort of thing. I hope he can rise to the occasion and impress (not only his fans but) people like me. :smirk:
  12. wwfpooh New Member

    Ditto. It's hard to try and imagine classic 2D Disney animation without Alan as the key composer.
  13. theprawncracker Well-Known Member

    *cough* Menken didn't work on Lion King, Elton John and Tim Rice did... *cough* ;)

    But yeah, that's VERY strange to have Randy Newman doing the music... not who I would've picked. Menken seemed like an obvious choice. :smirk:
  14. D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    What do you all have against Randy Newman?

    If I were doing a movie, he'd be on my list of composers I'd like to compose the movie score.
  15. theprawncracker Well-Known Member

    It's nothing against Randy Newman's music, I just agree with Jamie that I see his songs fitting better in a Pixar film sense where the characters aren't the ones actually singing, he's just providing wonderful songs like "You've Got a Friend in Me," "Strange Things," and "If I Didn't Have You." I feel like Menken's music is better suited for singing characters. :smirk: Just my thoughts.
  16. D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    Well...

    At least we can thank God John Powell's not doing the music.
  17. wwfpooh New Member

    Point taken. :D
  18. Vic Romano Active Member

    I agree. It's a just a natural progression. I don't feel that Disney is creating a black princess because they have to create a black princess, even if there was some minor controversy when they first announced it.

    Totally agree here too. I L:flirt:VED Menken's work on Enchanted. I do not care for Randy Newman's music. Blech.

    Menken's music really feels Disney, you know? It adds a lot of magic to the films he composes for. I was just awe struck with Enchanted as a total package, and I really believe that Alan had a lot to do with that.
  19. wwfpooh New Member

    Indeed. The Shermans, Alan, and Xavier ARE Disney's music as far as I am concerned!
  20. frogboy4 Inactive Member

    Just my froggy opinion, of course...

    :) Randy Newman is okay. He is a multiple award winner who is very successful at writing catchy and sweet individual songs with commercial appeal. Alan Menken's songs work on that level but also seem to have a wider scope; more of a deeper, layered journey and emotionally cathartic sense when considering the body of work as it plays out in each project.

    I first became a fan of Menken's music after Frank Oz' film adaptation of Little Shop of Horrors. Shortly after that Disney's Little Mermaid sealed the deal and I now consider him a great musical composer second to only Cole Porter. Newman is an award-winning song writer, but I see Menken as a musical storyteller.

    :D Maybe Newman has more New Orleans flavor he can bring to the project due to the fact he spent some of his early years there as a child. Let’s hope he does have some local perspective to bring to the piece. Yeah, that’s a way to look at it.

    :)o Oops, my bad on the incorrect Menken-Lion King connection. How did I forget that?)

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