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Who Framed Kermit the Frog

Discussion in 'Classic Muppets' started by Super Scooter, Dec 30, 2002.

  1. Super Scooter

    Super Scooter New Member

    MUPPET CENTRAL FORUM MEMBERS ONLY, PLEASE! TV movie

    All right. Here's what we got so far.

    3 script ideas

    Pigs In Space: The Movie
    Electric Mayhem Band: Beginnings
    Who Framed Kermit The Frog?

    Right now, we're working on Who Framed Kermit The Frog. We'll work on the others some other time.

    Here's what we have for it so far:

    Alright? And here's what we've got for the other two.

    Alright? Let's continue with the Who Framed Kermit The Frog? storyline.
  2. sarah_yzma

    sarah_yzma Active Member

    *screams* YES YES YES YES YES!!!! THAT'S AWESOME! ooh ooh ooh i really like the framed one!!!! hahahahaha!heres a couple ideas

    Kermit should be put in jail, and rizzo is his cell mate....(since rizzo was in a research center).....haha

    piggy can try to break into prison and save her loved kermit...with a song right here....WE NEED MUSIC! there can also be one that kermit and rizzo sing....sorry steve! haha

    hmm this almost is like mfs....weird...we gotta make sure they don't get too close together...

    i think kermit needs to be in jail, to show that the rest of the gang can work without them...

    i would love the see Electric become lounge singers...that would be hilarious!

    Pepe could...umm...umm...let me think.....try to join Electric...oh that would be INSANE!!!! HAHAHA i would love to see him try to sing!

    i think it needs the slapstick type humor that TMS had....also LOTS OF SONGS!!!!!!
  3. the_great_gonzo

    the_great_gonzo New Member

    these are awesome ideas. I also like the idea of having another Muppet as Kermit's cellmate. Maybe Gonzo. Like when the police are taking Kermit away, Gonzo runs in front of them and says, "If you're going to take Kermit, you have to take me." and they say "OK." This could lead to a sideplot of Gonzo trying to think of ways to break out. Maybe have a reminiscent scene of early TMS where he trys to burrow out with a spoon. If they're looking for celebrities all they have to do is have different celebrities getting together with a FREE KERMIT campaign or something. I don't know these are just my two cents.
  4. sarah_yzma

    sarah_yzma Active Member

    ooh gonzo would be great
  5. pezbalubah

    pezbalubah Member

    Yeah I like the idea of having Gonzo wind up in the cell with him.

    I was thinking as a gag, the cops can be taking Kermit through the cells to where he will go, and we see his POV of a scary, dirty prison full of big guys, monsters (maybe some of the pirates from MTI), and Howard the pig who makes kissy faces at him as he walks by.

    Kermit: you're not gonna leave me in here with these guys are you?

    Cop: Of course not, you're Kermit the Frog, you're staying in here! (he opens a door to a fancy suite with golden bars on the window, a big fluffy bed, and a big screen TV)

    I guess if Gonzo is with him at this point, he can say something like "wow what a sweet suite"

    and then
    Cop: "where do you think you're going weirdo?' and he'll be picked up and thrown into the dirty cell. As the cell door slams he yells "Kermit!!!!"

    Kermit can still interact with Gonzo however in the cafeteria and gym.
  6. pezbalubah

    pezbalubah Member

    Before Kermit is proven not guilty, most of the media is potraying him negatively. The Muppets can be watching Conan O'Brien when he makes a joke about Kermit being guilty.

    Fozzie: Boy that was a cheap joke, even for me.
    Immediatley Pepe will do some kind of cheap joke.

    There can be an anti-Kermit campaign as well as a Save Kermit campaign. Maybe there can even be a 2nd villain, the head of the anti-Kermit campaign, an angry yuppie mother. "Kermit was once a loveable Sesame Street character, then he did disgraceful adult oriented entertainment, now he is a guru of crime, I am calling for all responsible parents to destroy any Kermit stuffed doll, action figure, or movie in their house."

    Sam can make a speech for the Save Kermit campaign. Something like "It is every American's right to a fair trial, that they shall be innocent until proven guilty in the court of law. I stand behind Kermit one hundred percent, unless he is found guilty in which case I had nothing to do with it."
  7. sarah_yzma

    sarah_yzma Active Member

    yeah...we can show gonzo making a secret tunnel into kermit's cell (with the spoon, of course)

    ooh ooh sam could be his lawyer....or honeydew...that might be funny with beaker there in a suit...

    what would the crime be??? i was thinking something with money..so maybe the jail wouldn't be as bad...like a halfway house...so he would still get to travel, on occasion....

    what is piggy's main role...i know she tries to save him, but what else can she do? be head of the save kermit??

    oh i know! she can try to be hired as a cop to release kermit...an interview could be funny! she could try and throw on the charm, but it would be some big mean woman....who isn't buying it....
  8. pezbalubah

    pezbalubah Member

    I was thinking the crime can be some kind of counterfeiting business. I don't know if it should be something like counterfeit money, poker chips, or something ridiculous like counterfeit rubber chickens.
  9. sarah_yzma

    sarah_yzma Active Member

    although funny we might give up realism....oh yeah...muppet movies haven't always been 'real' i don't know but we MUST include rubber chickens!

    Sarah
  10. pezbalubah

    pezbalubah Member

    Before Kermit is actually arrested he can know that he is a suspect, he can call on the gang to get to the bottom of who framed him.

    Kermit: Gang, there's a good chance I can go to jail, and the fate of the Muppets will be at stake. We could lose our jobs, we could lose our house, we could starve, and most importantly the people of the world will lose out on what we do best, making people happy.

    Rizzo: But we lose out on the food?

    Kermit: Which is why I'm asking you to start a secret mission to find who the true perpetrator of this crime is.

    Gonzo: Hey Kermit can we be called "Kermit's Eleven" like in the movies?

    Kermit: But Gonzo there is more than eleven of us.

    Gonzo: Sure if you want to be technical...
  11. WiGgY

    WiGgY New Member

    I love this idea! Gonzo throwing himself in front of the cops is perfect! I think human actors should be kept to a minimum. Only actors that work well with the muppets. No over actors, which unfortunatly seems to be the trend. I think Piggy trying to become a cop would be great! Scenes of Piggy trying to do all the physical fitness tests would be great! Fozzie could do jokes on the street while trying to raise Kermit's bail money, then he could be thrown in jail along with Gonzo for telling jokes without a license :D . Pepe could just be Pepe. He could go around making all the dealz ok? Or he could be the lawyer!

    Pepe: Ladies and gentlemens of the jury ok? This is a frog. He is not a crook. This frog, right here,...looks a lot like that frog in the video ok? *whispers* Kermit, did you do this? Cause you can tell me ok?

    The Electric Mayhem could play benifit concerts, Scooter could be a vendor selling Save the Frog pins and hats. Sweetums would be in jail. Maybe a cell mate for Gonzo and Fozzie, or maybe as just some guy in another cell, or maybe even a cop. I think it would be great to see the muppets trying to work without Kermit, but then kind of fail because they are now without Kermit's thoughtfullness.

    Rizzo would break into jail and try to save kermit, but he gets into Kermit's jail suite and ends up staying. :D Sam could give a speech about how moral the muppets are, but then he gives really bad examples and ends up talking himself off the stage. It would be similar to his naked speech. :D

    I would end it with Kermit at his trial. The jury is out and they are just about to pass judgement when....Beaker runs in screaming holding a yellow envelope. It has evidence that proves Kermit is innocent! Maybe a picture of Doc Hopper removing a Kermit mask! :D or not lol. Anyway everyone is happy, the imposter Kermit is in jail, and Piggy finally passes the test and bursts into the jail screaming

    Piggy: Kermy! Moi is here my love! I shall save you!

    then a guard yells

    Guard: The frog was let out 12 hours ago.

    Piggys looks at the camera with her classic angry shake :D

    Oh and well placed musical numbers throughout. Maybe some jail songs and of course the Electric Mayhem concert.

    Hope any of that made sense. It's 4:15 am here :D
  12. Super Scooter

    Super Scooter New Member

    All great ideas! I think we should keep Kermit in jail for a minimum time of the movie, just to get back to the rest of the story though. We could keep Gonzo in there for the whole movie, and then at the end he finally gets out! I don't think there should be a court room scene, just because we have so much already. This could be the longest Muppet Movie ever, though! Three hours!

    I think it's only too logical that since this takes place in Vegas that it should be about counterfit something.

    While Gonzo is trying to get Kermit out, the other Muppets come in and break Kermit out of jail, but not to Gonzo's knowledge.

    I like the free Kermit idea, and the anti-Kermit idea, but I don't think we should focus on that too much. It should be in there, just maybe like fifteen minutes of it or so.

    I think we've got a lot right now. You guys want to start working on the script? If you have anything more, post it while we're writing the script, and we'll work around it accordingly. I'll start off the script in my next post. Try to keep it as Muppety as possible. :D
  13. Super Scooter

    Super Scooter New Member

    Who Framed Kermit The Frog

    By the Muppet Central Forum Members

    (note: opening credits fall over opening scenes)

    EXT. LAS VEGAS

    1 We start off going through the streets of Vegas, passing by a few major Casinos and Hotels.

    INT. VEGAS CASINOS

    2 We watch as various Muppets and Humans (including Link Hogthrob) gamble at the various tables and slot machines. An occasional win, but mostly just painful losses. Cut to...

    EXT. HOUSE

    3 It's a rather large house, nearby Vegas. Vegas can be seen in the background. Close on KERMIT THE FROG as he steps otuside of the house for a breath of fresh air. He lets out a yawn and heads over across the lawn to the mail box. SWEETUMS is in the background tossing chickens in the air, and then catching them. KERMIT opens the mail box and pulls out a pile of letters. He begins going through them as he heads back into the house. Just then, GONZO THE GREAT comes flying over head from where Los Vegas stands. He lands next to KERMIT, smoke coming from his cape. GONZO stands up and shakes himself off.
    ---

    GONZO
    Whooo-hooo! That was my best show ever! Ha ha ha ha!

    ---
    GONZO looks over his shoulder to see how far he went.
    ---

    GONZO:
    Wow! That's my farthest shot ever! Wow! Ha ha! Oooh! Let's see if I can set it up so I go through the chimney! Ha ha ha ha!

    KERMIT:
    Er, Gonzo, are you okay?

    GONZO:
    Of course, Kermit! Did you see that distance? Wow! And you ask me if I'm okay? Ha! I'm ecstatic!

    KERMIT:
    Er, Gonzo? Your cape's on fire.

    GONZO:
    Hmmm? Oh, I know. That's for effect. Ha ha ha ha! I wonder what the crowd's expression was on that one! Ha ha ha ha!

    ---
    GONZO exits laughing. KERMIT looks down and shakes his head. He turns around and heads back inside.
    ---

    KERMIT:
    (to SWEETUMS as he enters the house) Hello, Sweetums.

    SWEETUMS:
    Hey, Kermit. Come back here, you dumb chicken! You're not suppose to be able to fly!

    ---
    Cut to... (continue on)
  14. Super Scooter

    Super Scooter New Member

    (Ooops! Forgot to mention this. I think we should use old characters that we really miss too. Characters from Jim Henson Hour and Muppets Tonight. Also, is there anyone on this forum who's a composer? We need some really heartfelt music like from The Muppet Movie and stuff. I just thought of something! I gotta continue the script!)
  15. Super Scooter

    Super Scooter New Member

    INT. HOUSE

    4 KERMIT enters and begins singing a song. As he continues on through the house, the Muppets he passes by join in with him. For the last line of the song, KERMIT and the other MUPPETS find themselves on the back porch to sing. As the song ends, GONZO falls through the Porch roof.

    5 Close on GONZO as he gets up.
    ---

    GONZO:
    Well, I got a little closer to the chimney.
    ---

    GONZO faints. Cut to... (continue on)
  16. Beauregard

    Beauregard Well-Known Member

    Seriously Scooter I don't think that getting everyone to write this is a good idea (you've seen what happened in role play)

    How about, here we post ideas, and say five people from the forum, you, me, and some others write scripts based on teh ideas, then we send one another the scripts and cut them past them etc.

    So I cut out dumb bits from your's whuile you write dumb bits in mine see?

    Other members can send us scenes that they have written and the core group (the five) can try and work those in.

    Is this a good idea?

    How will we choose who will write the scripts? I'd like to, you seem quite good at it, Traveling Matt may be of some help.

    Consider!
  17. WiGgY

    WiGgY New Member

    Yes, good point. I think if everyone could come in here and write a script it would get to crazy. This should be more of an idea place. What is actually said should be written by a few people. I would like to be a consultant as to what lines work best. Sometimes it hard to make a character sound natural and still move the story along. I noticed a few repetitve lines in the script said by Gonzo.
  18. Super Scooter

    Super Scooter New Member

    Guys, you're absolutely right! I've been thinking about it, and we're going to do this a little differently. I like your idea. We'll have five people do different scripts and pick 'em apart until we get the best darn script ever! I know Salmoto's good at writing, he sent me some of his stuff, maybe he could do one!

    So that's me, (Super Scooter)
    Beauregard,
    Salmoto,
    Fozzie Bear's done pretty good at keeping the role play together... somewhat. How about him? I'll write him and ask.

    We'll keep this forum up for ideas.

    If anyone else thinks they've got what it takes to write one, post here. Send me something you've written and we'll see whether or not you've got what it takes.:D

    Everyone else, just post your ideas here, we'll talk about them, and hopefully we'll include them in our script!

    Keep it real!

    Scoot
  19. Manda:-D

    Manda:-D New Member

    Ummmm....Can we have FOZZIE got to jail w/Kermit? Or maybe have the 3 of them, (Kermit, Fozzie, & Gonzo), go together, like in TMM & GMC? I'd REALLY like to see some Kermit & Fozzie mayhem again! And howzabout a part for Rowlf?
    OOH!!! I KNOW!!! Kermit gets arrested, but Fozzie throws himself in front of the cops & ends up w/Kermit! Piggy ALSO tries the "if you're gonna take him, you'll have to take me, too" bit, (the cop's pretty cute), but it doesn't work. While everyone else sets out to prove Kermit innocent, Gonzo enlists Rizzo to help him break K & F out, but Gonzo's caught & ends up in jail WITH them. Fozzie asks his Ma for bail, but she "doesn't have enough for the frog and the wierdo." (I'm not sure a/b THAT part.) Oh, and the Sal & Johnny scene....I'm thinkin' of Sal as the waiter, & every few seconds, he comes up to the bad guys w/the tape recorder, (or some kinda funky new Bunsen invention), giving all kinds of different choices as an excuse to keep coming back, driving the bad guys CRAZY.
    I.e: Sal-"You want ice in that?" Bad Guy-"Yeah, sure." (Sal walks away. Bad Guy starts talking a/b what they did, but Sal returns.) "What kinda ice do you want?" Bad guy-"What kinda ICE???" Sal-"Oh, sure, you know...We got crushed, cubed, hand-chipped-" Bad Guy-"GET OUTTA HERE!!!"
    Kermit could be accused of money LAUNDERING.....
  20. Super Scooter

    Super Scooter New Member

    Excellent! I knew something was missing! We should deffenitely build up on the Kermit Fozzie friendship. Instead of Gonzo telling the cops he'll go too, Fozzie does. (not exactly the smartest of ideas, but noble) And then, Gonzo's the first one to get them out but gets caught, and then he spends the rest of the movie in jail trying to get out, while the Muppets come and rescue Kermit and Fozzie! I love it!

    Brainstorming with others on this is so much easier than thinking up your own story!


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