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Why are today's kids so spoiled?

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by mo, May 6, 2012.

  1. meepmuppaphones Active Member

    Well okay okay.

    Uhhh...

    I blame it on TV and YouTube.

    I mean, I bet 98% of corrupt kids got their evil roots from the two. Where else can you find violence, swearing, and sex?
    And the parents won't stop them. They're either clueless or they don't care.
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    Whoops, meant to edit, not reply. Ooopssss...:halo:
  4. heralde Well-Known Member

    Real life. ; )
  5. D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    But again, what does real life always look to for guidance?
  6. heralde Well-Known Member

    What did it look to before electronic media?
  7. D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    Back then, there wasn't nearly as many problems with society as there is today.
  8. Hubert Well-Known Member

    That statement works psychologically, but try playing it out. Kids see the R-rated movies, their parents make it clear. Then, the second the parents aren't looking, the things the parents said not to imitate the movie had glorified...so they do it anyway. Another problem: half the time parents don't know their kids ever even watched an R-rated movie.


    Yeah, but this is a bit different sort of playing rough and rebellion. Watch a kid's life that only watches what their parents allow, doesn't watch R-rated movies, doesn't play bad video games, and doesn't look up bad stuff online. Then watch a kid's life who does the opposite of those things. There's a huge difference in language, conversation topics, free time activities, etc.

    Exactly. Things like TV, Internet, and movies can have a lot of good impact, but meepmuppaphones has pretty much summed it up. The parents are either clueless or don't care about monitoring these things that are good on the surface.

    And that's just the thing: As media progresses, the situation seems to get worse and worse. Honestly, a person has no idea what's going on until they see it with their own two eyes.

    EDIT: And D'Snowth ziffled me on the last part.
  9. heralde Well-Known Member

    That's why so many of the same society ills are mentioned in the Bible. ;)
  10. heralde Well-Known Member

    I saw R-rated movies when I was a child. I was never censored as to what I could see on TV. And to this day my friends think I'm far too wholesome a person, lol. They apologize if they curse around me, lol. I knew it was just a movie, just entertainment, and I knew my parents wouldn't tolerate my imitating the wrong things.
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  11. dwmckim Well-Known Member

    Why are today's kids so spoiled?

    Lack of proper refrigeration.
  12. Drtooth Well-Known Member

    When it comes to that sort of thing, it's all about clout. The bigger the name you are in Hollywood, the more you can get away with things.

    Here's a tale of two PG movies... Kevin Munroe's TMNT and the Wachowski Brothers' Speed Racer film. Both released by Warner Bros, by the way. TMNT's violence was no more than anything you'd see on a TV Y7 kid's program, no one said anything close to a cuss word (unlike the live action film which was much more violent and had Raph sweating every five seconds in the first 10 minutes which ALSO had a PG rating), and quite honestly, it seemed that the problem was that they couldn't amp up the violence to a near action movie level out of fear they'd get a PG-13 and lose all Happy Meal licensing privileges.

    Meanwhile, Speed Racer, because the Wachowski Brothers have clout, had a LOT of cussing, mildly bloody violence, and Spritle even flips someone off at one point. You can't even flip someone off on Family Guy! And I SWEAR to you, it's all PG. And I swear that leans closer to PG-13 than TMNT ever did.

    I'd say Pirates and Rango and Shrek are what I'd consider PG.

    The first R-rated movie I've ever seen was The Birdcage. There is nothing R about it, other than the F word used like a couple times. Unless the whole main characters being gay thing was worthy of an R... but when the gay couple is Robin Williams and Nathan Lane, no one in the world wants to see it go over kissing on the cheek.

    Sex is funny because we put such an insane amount of taboo on the subject. The only country that doesn't look at us and laugh about how prudish we are has to be in the Middle East somewhere. Yes... there is something about saving it for marriage, but that isn't for everyone. Not everyone wants to get married, and not everyone is marriage material. Sex with multiple partners can happen in a marriage too.

    But for every movie and TV show where everyone boinks each other and there are no consequences, there's always something out there that actually deals with those consequences. The movie Knocked Up for example... or better yet, Raising Hope. The show where someone willfully takes care of a baby he helped create, who was the spawn of a teenage pregnancy. That show is all about taking responsibility for those actions.

    Still... There is a reason why certain shows come on at 9:00 and 10:00. I agree there's too much of that stuff (particularly in dramas), but if we put the cat back in the bag, people will start to notice and not be too happy about it. Full grown adults know what they're talking about... I'm sure kids don't want to watch Grey's Anatomy anyway... especially if they get Cartoon Network and Disney. They'd just watch that stuff like they're supposed to.

    But then again, like I said... I grew up watching the UNcensored Looney Tunes and Tom and Jerry cartoons with the racist stuff in tact. And while I'm glad they're long gone from the official kid's broadcast of them, it didn't affect me any way either.
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  13. beatnikchick300 Active Member

    A large part of it, at least, is that their parents enable them too much. I see it every day at my job. Parents let their kids run and skip through the store, play with thread, and sit on foam (merchandise foam). It's ridiculous.
  14. Drtooth Well-Known Member

    For some crap-brain reason, we have a generation of parents that wanna be their kids bestest best friend, let them have everything they want to avoid conflict, and then complain that it's everyone's fault that they're kids are screwed up. So basically they go after anyone and anything and we wind up having crappy breakfast cereals and the Saturday morning Infomercial blocks as a result. Been saying that for years now.

    At least parents of 80's kids didn't overreact this much, or at least have that much clout. Everyone was trying to sell us products back then, and NOBODY complained. And it's a good thing they didn't either.
  15. Hubert Well-Known Member

    God is God. He knows what will happen before it does.

    Yes, and I'm sure that happens with some kids. Unfortunately not many understand that and don't turn out as the wholesome person.

    True, but in that same generation is just as many parents who couldn't care less about what they're kids do or punish them in an unacceptable way.
  16. D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    Again, A problem is more and more "parents" are people who ended up becoming parents at too young ages, and therefore, didn't even know how to be parents, so all they pretty much can do is befriend the kids rather than parent them.

    However, I know that's not the only case... people like Dina Lohan, Billy Ray Cyrus, etc.

    But then at the same time, there's people who fall into BOTH categories, like Justin Bieber's mom.
  17. Drtooth Well-Known Member

    Half the kids that watch that stuff weren't exactly wholesome to begin with. It's like how they say that watching wrestling creates violent people when only people who like violence would be the ones who would watch wrestling. Any kid that doesn't know reality from fiction either has parents that failed them or mental disorders.

    The big tip off... reality is the one that sucks.
  18. Hubert Well-Known Member

    Not necessarily. A lot of little kids start watching wrestling and then are hooked...even if they didn't previously like violence.

    What? To me it seems that those who become parents too young more just don't care about their kids at all, not befriend them. In fact, I've never seen this befriending your kids stuff too much. I've seen more circumstances where the parents and kid hate each other to the point they rarely even speak...unless it's regarding punishment. And when these kids do get punished, the parents just lock them in their bedroom for 3 months.

    And that's a big problem causing issues with kids these days. Their parents don't get involved with the kid's life, unless it's in a bad way. The kids just spend all night sitting with their beloved phones, texting, and watching TV. The parents aren't encouraging family activities or communication. So the kids have too much time on their hands and they begin watching and looking up bad stuff. Like, whatever happened to family meals? Now it seems most families just heat up TV dinners and eat in front of their TV. The parents aren't encouraging their kids to be a part of the family.
  19. mr3urious Active Member

    Ah yes, another one of those "everything sucks today" threads. I have almost never personally encountered a single kid who was a stereotypical spoiled, troublemaking brat like what Hubert described. However, I have encountered plenty of fowl-mouths and tantrum-throwers even during childhood, so none of this is new.
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  20. D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    Not necessarily... yeah, we did end up kind of steering towards that direction, but we were trying to get to the root of the problem presented by the OP, as to why kids seem to be the way they are today.

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