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Why did Sesame Street cast members leave?

Discussion in 'Sesame Street' started by Pig's Laundry, Sep 22, 2016.

  1. Pig's Laundry

    Pig's Laundry Well-Known Member

    This is something I think about quite often. So many actors have left the show over the years, yet aside from a few like Sonia Manzano, Northern Calloway and a few others, we really don't know the reasons behind most of their departures.
     
  2. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    I think, if I'm not mistaken, Carlo Alban left because his family was in the country illegally, and they wer afraid that the exposure could garner some unwanted attention. I seem to recall somebody posting a link to an interview about that a few years ago.

    I've been curious about David L. Smyrl's departure, considering there was no on-screen explanation about what happened to Mr. Handford, and all SW.org says is that he simply sold the store to Alan - because he otherwise said he enjoyed being on the show. But then again, in the 40 years book, Alan mentions that when auditioning new storekeepers for Hooper's, they were specifically looking for somebody younger, as opposed to the grandfatherly types who were auditioning, maybe that has something to do with it, I don't know.

    Didn't Linda Bove mention she was simply ready to move on beyond SST?
     
  3. MuppetSpot

    MuppetSpot Well-Known Member

    Also Bob Mcgrath said at the NJ event that it was also the shorter amount episodes each season as well.
     
  4. Censored

    Censored Well-Known Member

    The beginning of the end.
     
  5. Pig's Laundry

    Pig's Laundry Well-Known Member

    David Smyrl was one i've wondered about for a long time. They never even explained what happened to his character. It was just one episode he was their and the next episode Hooper's had a new owner. I also kind of wonder about the original actor who portrayed Mr. Handford, Leonard Jackson, he was only their for one season. I wonder if he didn't test well with kids.

    Same with Hal Miller who only played Gordon for two seasons. We know that Matt left because he was never meant to be a permanent cast member anyways and he mainly did writing/producing. The original Gordon from the test pilots scared kids. But what happened to Hal Miller?

    As for a few others, we know or at least can assume Alaina Reed(Olivia) left because she was on a sitcom at the time. Tarah left because her family moved to Pennsylvania and it became harder and harder for them to go back and fourth to film the show. The Around the Corner crowd Ruthie, Celina, Lexine etc were let go because their were too many characters and also probably because of the reduced amount of episodes per season and budget.
     
  6. MuppetSpot

    MuppetSpot Well-Known Member

    Well with Ruthie she was kind of more of an insert character that stayed around after ATC in seasons 30 till 32.
     
  7. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    I disagree; Alan was a nice addition to the cast.
     
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  8. Censored

    Censored Well-Known Member

    So was Mr. Hanford.
     
  9. Pig's Laundry

    Pig's Laundry Well-Known Member

    Just because they were looking for someone younger when they cast Alan, that doesn't mean they let David Smyrl go because of his age. It could just be that he left on his own terms and the producers simply decided to try something different.
     
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  10. Censored

    Censored Well-Known Member

    Maybe. Maybe not.
     
  11. Pig's Laundry

    Pig's Laundry Well-Known Member

    Hmm, it just ocurred to me that soon, Alan could qualify as the grandpa figure on the show. He's only six years younger than Will Lee was when the show started and around the same age that David Smyrl was when he joined the show. :eek: I was born only the year after Alan joined the show. Suddenly I feel old.
     
  12. Censored

    Censored Well-Known Member

    I know. It's sad. He will probably get the boot soon too.
     
  13. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    Hal Miller was... well... wheat toast. Cardboard. A bowl of plain oatmeal at room temperature. Matt gave a great performance, Roscoe gave a great performance. Hal was...just there. I can see him testing poorly and not working out. We got Roscoe out of it, and he was the best Gordon. There's a reason why he was never recast after that. I just don't see Hal Miller pulling off Lovely Magic Gordon Guy or Trash Gordon with the same level of straightfaced ham.

    That was Around the Corner era when he came on. Can't remember how long he stayed or if he stayed longer after that, but every cast member and most of the new Muppets created for it were gone once they junked the entire ATC concept.
     
  14. MuppetSpot

    MuppetSpot Well-Known Member

    David Smyrl came in around Season 22 and left after Season 29, I think he had a good 8-9 years on SST.
     
  15. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    Just needed a reminder. Didn't really pay attention much to the show around then so I kind of forgot. But at the same time I seem to remember them having episodes where Mr. Hanford was kinda grooming either Savion or Gina to take over for him. Seems that Hoopers always had an assistant that would take over for the store for a while when they didn't use those actors in certain episodes.

    Still, while whatever conspiracy about Bob and Gordon can be had, Sesame Street had a bigger cast member turn around rate than we realize, and often times it was because the younger actors moved on to bigger things. How long was Raoul Julia on? Went on to have a film career. Charlotte Rae. Sitcom star, got popular enough to get a spinoff sitcom as well. Savion created Stomp, a big hit in the 90's and still dancing.
     
  16. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    That's true. Mr. Hooper had David, David had Gina, Mr. Handford had Gina and eventually Carlo, and Alan has Chris.

    I think just one year, wasn't he?
     
  17. Censored

    Censored Well-Known Member

    I don't agree with all of the hate being thrown towards Hal Miller. He wasn't a bad Gordon. He just got caught between 2 others who were extremely popular.
     
  18. Censored

    Censored Well-Known Member

    You might even say he earned himself a permanent place on the show.
     
  19. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member


    Not so much he was bad much as he was very bland. He seems that he's a very decent actor and has some appeal. Just not as passionate a performance as his predecessor or as much fun as his successor.
     
  20. Censored

    Censored Well-Known Member


    Some of that perception can have to with whether one actually recalls seeing episodes with Hal Miller as a child, or if they are just seeing the very limited clips of Hal on Noggin and Youtube. I remember whole episodes with Hal Miller in which he was quite passionate. There is an episode where he became furious at Oscar and sternly told him that if he kept being nasty to everyone, he would not give him anymore trash. This led to a hilarious show where Oscar was trying to be nice and nasty at the same time. But, yes, if the only sources of reference for Hal Miller are the limited videos today, viewed only by adults with no childhood memory of him, I can see where he might seem bland. Having said all of that, growing up with all 3 Gordons, Matt Robinson and Roscoe Orman are my favorites equally. Matt should be honored in memory and Roscoe should be honored right now.
     
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