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Why is Dr. Teeth thought of as the Electric Mayhem leader?

Discussion in 'Classic Muppets' started by golden teeth, Oct 22, 2006.

  1. golden teeth

    golden teeth New Member

    After watching most of the episodes, ive noticed that Dr. Teeth is in the least of them of all of the E.C. characters including Zoot. Why is he thought of as the leader, and not Floyd?
     
  2. golden teeth

    golden teeth New Member

    After watching most of the episodes, ive noticed that Dr. Teeth is in the least of them of all of the E.C. characters including Zoot. Why is he thought of as the leader, and not Floyd?
     
  3. JoeyMuppet

    JoeyMuppet New Member

    Maybe bc whenever they introduce them they're called " Dr. Teeth and The Electric Mayhem ".
     
  4. PhsychoChimp

    PhsychoChimp New Member

    Actually, Dr.Teeth is used more than Floyd in the First season.
    It goes
    Zoot
    Janice
    Animal
    Dr.Teeth
    Floyd
    It wasn't till towards the end of the first season, Floyd was made into hippie he is now.
    Also, Dr.Teeth is a much more complicated character to preform. With the sunglasses and the live hands. Plus, he's possibly the leader, for the fact Jim Henson voiced him.
     
  5. BEAR

    BEAR Active Member

    And if sounds better than saying "Floyd Pepper and the Electric Mayhem"
     
  6. David French

    David French Active Member

    As Joey points out, they were usually introduced as Dr. Teeth and the Electric Mayhem.

    As for Floyd making more appearances than Dr. Teeth, that's only because Floyd had more potential as a backstage character than some of the other members through the numerous wisecracks he had a tendency to make at the expense of his fellow performers.
     
  7. MrsPepper

    MrsPepper Active Member

    That sounds good to me. ;)
     
  8. mikebennidict

    mikebennidict New Member

    Because that's just the way it is? most rock bands have lead singers.
     
  9. Sgt Floyd

    Sgt Floyd Well-Known Member

    Ditto, man!:sing:

    I always thought it was cause he founded the band...but...that was just an assumption:smirk:
     
  10. MGov

    MGov New Member

    Also, since Jim Henson performed Teeth, and since most of the other action stemmed from Kermit, they couldn't be performed together (except in pre-recorded musical numbers). So Floyd, Zoot, Animal and Janice all had more opportunities to develop than Teeth did.
     
  11. golden teeth

    golden teeth New Member

    to PsychoChimp

    I think Floyd and Dr. Teeth were used the same season 1.

    Dr. Teeth had a speaking appearance in

    2.Connie Stevens
    3.Joel Grey
    6.Jim Nabors
    10.Harvey Korman
    16.Avery Schrieber
    18.Phyllis Diller
    20.Valerie Harper

    and Floyd was in

    2.Connie Stevens
    4.Ruth Buzzi
    7.Florence Henderson
    10.Harvey Korman
    16.Avery Schrieber
    20.Valerie Harper
    23.Kaye Ballard
    24.Mummenshanz

    If you actually counted all of the appearances on the show Floyd has about 65-70, Janice has about 70-75, Animal was in about 60-65, Zoot was in 40-45 and Dr. Teeth was in 30-35.
     
  12. Ilikemuppets

    Ilikemuppets New Member

    He's also heaiver in wight then the others. And to hold that over your head for long periods of time can get kinda straining, ya know?
     
  13. minor muppetz

    minor muppetz Well-Known Member

    It seems like Dr. Teeth was more of the lead singer in the first season than in later seasons. In most first season Electric Mayhem numbers he was the lead singer, and usually the only member to get solo vocals. Floyd sang lead vocals in a few first season numbers. Also, Floyd wasn't a very major backstage character in the first season, with his biggest backstage role being in the Kaye Ballard episode, the second to last episode of the first season. After that, Floyd was a main backstage character.

    Oddly enough, Floyd was also a main backstage character in The Muppet Show: Sex and Violence. And Floyd was more major than Dr. Teeth there. Dr. Teeth only appeared in music numbers in that special, but Floyd even introduced their acts (Nigel could have introduced them, since he was the host).

    And I think Dr. Teeth had more leadership involvement in the movies, especially The Muppet Movie and The Muppets Take Manhattan (he had his own solo song, You Can't Take No For an Answer, and it was he who wrote the Electric Mayhem's post card to Kermit, narrarating the post card and also in before Kermit reads it he says "Here's one more, it's from Dr. Teeth").
     
  14. BEAR

    BEAR Active Member


    haha!!:p
     
  15. BEAR

    BEAR Active Member

    But you know that if anything happened to Dr. Teeth, Floyd would be next in command. Floyd's presents might have seemed more on the show because he was Jerry Nelson's one and only what I would consider principle character.
     
  16. Mickey Moose

    Mickey Moose New Member

    Well, they're often referred to as "Dr. Teeth & The Electric Mayhem" on the Muppet Show. My guess is because Jim performed Dr. Teeth, and is seen as the "leader" of the Muppets.
     
  17. heralde

    heralde Well-Known Member

    I always saw it like this, Dr. Teeth is the official leader of the band, but he's much too easy-going and groovy to go around acting like it. Floyd, on the other hand, easily gets frustrated when things aren't cool and speaks his mind.
     
  18. minor muppetz

    minor muppetz Well-Known Member

    I keep thinking that Dr. Teeth sould have joined Floyd and Animal when they interracted with Dudley Moore in his dressing room. Kermit wasn't in that scene, so it is not like Jim Henson was busy performing another character.
     
  19. heralde

    heralde Well-Known Member

    I always saw it like this, Dr. Teeth is the official leader of the band, but he's much too easy-going and groovy to go around acting like it most of the time. Floyd, on the other hand, easily gets frustrated when things aren't cool and speaks his mind.
     
  20. Marky

    Marky Member

    Animal's drumset has "Dr. Teeth" on it.
    Clearly, he's the leader in The Muppet Movie too, don't forget.
    (The Muppet Movie mayhem scene is one of my all-time favourite muppet moments ever, with my favourite muppet song ever!)

    :D
     

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