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Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Disneys Muppets, Jul 6, 2004.
What do you think?
I hope so too.
Oh, that goose thing was just awful. Ridiculous. And I come from a family of hunters - every time he talked about hunting he didn't know what he was talking about. And he wouldn't even carry his own goose. omg.
There's an omen which happens now and again at the Democratic National Convention and thus far has held true. The conventions always have all these balloons sitting around in netting up against the ceiling to be released when the nominee accepts the nomination. At least twice now the balloons have not come down when released - for Jimmy Carter and John Kerry. Both lost.
The fact is that nobody inside the Democratic party really thought Kerry would get anywhere and he's not held in particularly high regard in his own party. It was looking like Howard Dean all the way until the Dean Scream, which sank him like a stone. Out of all the Dem candidates in the primary field I thought Joe Lieberman of CT was the best of the lot. He's a class act and we're proud of him here. Voters don't like the New England Elite thing, the Kennedy thing, the Kerry-Heinz money thing. They come across as, Oh, let's help the little people for awhile on the taxpayers' dime so we can get our gold stars and St. Peter won't keep us waiting on line at the pearly gates. I don't like it either even though I'm from here. The Dems have also gone so far left that they've totally alienated moderates of their own party, moderate Republicans, and Independents, three groups which make up an enormous chunk of the voting populace. One analyst wrote that Bill Clinton, regardless of how one might feel about him, was as comfortable in trailer parks as he was at Park Avenue cocktail parties. He didn't carry with him that Massachusetts far-left elitism, a thing that rightly rubs people wrong in the rest of the country. And, as an aside, John Edwards is reviled in his own state, North Carolina. Anyway. It looks like Hilary vs. Rudy Guiliani in '08.
He is, dear. Makes very effective points that way.
I'm not sure how effective it is when most of us can't tell if he's being sarcastic. The trouble, of course, is that there are many people who would say those things seriously. I liked Lieberman too, when he was running with Gore and on his own. I was rooting for him. Oh, well...
If Lieberman would have been the candidate I would have seriously considered voting for him. And Clinton, love him or hate him, did and could relate to the common person which made him very popular. Same for Reagan. It is a quality that President Bush has as well. And if people like a person they are more likely to forgive them for their mistakes. Kerry never seemed to get that. Here's a guy that owns seven houses and goes wind surfing and he expects middle-America to relate to him.
Then explain that to a friend of mine who was arrested for not signing up. I think its like a few days in jail if they get you but all the same. ALthough my friend has been to jail a lot...
...hmmm, maybe that wasn't a good example.
No one had told me they would leave you alone if you write to them though. How about that. I learn something every day.
Anyway, it's fine with me. I registered. Jury duty could be fun. LOL
There you go!
Man, I really should take the time to read all the posts sometimes...LOL
Bush to the American people.
(Beware It's a a little naughty)
Oh and don't forget... Jesse (The Body) Ventura and possibly Ahhhnold will be running in 08. With McCain, Clinton(Hillary), Rudy...
ahnold can't be pres. i believe you have be a native (born in america) to be a pres. i know all things are passed, but i just have to get this off my chest. i saw moore's movie about two weeks before electio0n.
i admit that there may be things taken out of context, and moore is no doubt anti-bush.
but has the administration actually denied ANY of the allegations of the movie. nope. has bushy denied he was in the texas air nat'l gaurd with the bin-laden family investor? nope.
does dick cheney look like mr. waternousse from monters inc.? yes.
has bushy found the guy who actually orchestated the attacks on the wtc? no.
did bushy win because millions of americans follow our president with blind faith? yup?
do any of them REALLY know what is going on? i would hope so.
do bush and cheney, and bushy's daddy personally (their own wallets) profit when we are at war? you betcha.
good luck america. 4 more wars. oops i meant years.
This is true, but they (the Republicans) are trying to get that changed.
That's hilarious, sorry, sorry but it just struck me funny. They got him because he has a pile of priors, that's why. But yes, people can work within the setup, work with these things and work things out; they just don't realize that they can. Things may not seem better these days to some but they are - I lived through the Bad Old Days of Viet Nam and the draft, when every young man was doomed and knew it the moment he turned 18 - that was fearsome fearsome stuff, believe me, to know that this was your only fate, it was terrible. Dark years. And trust me, if the draft was ever proposed again you'd see all the baby-boomers, myself and my generation, come out so hard against it their heads would spin right off. It won't happen.
As it stands Ahhhhhhhnold can't run for Prez but there's movement afoot to bring a bill to Congress to amend the Constitution so that he can. My own opinion is that this rule should not be changed. I think Ahhhhnold is a fine individual but the change would open the door to all manner of trouble later on with candidates who would not be so fine and might well run in order to subvert us rather than for the right reasons. It's a dangerous idea. Should it come up as a bill everyone should contact their representatives about it whether for or against, it's important stuff.
Besides, who would want someone with a name like that as our President? We'd be hit with soooo many civil rights lawsuits. Schwarzenegger, translated, means black, um, well, look at it. Schwarz= black, Negger= politically incorrect term for African-American. You can figure it out.
Seriously, I'm not so sure about that anymore. Never underestimate the masochistic tendencies of the American people.
In all seriousness, I think it should be changed. I'm certainly no fan of Arnold or the Republicans, but I believe that this part of the Constitution represents a discriminatory way of thinking from the old days. I think part of the rationale for it is the belief that a non-native born American may be sympathetic to his own country in times of a war. The flaw in that argument is that directly or indirectly, we're a nation of immigrants and some native born Americans still have living relatives in other countries. The test of a person's loyalty to America should be judged on an individual basis, not generalized by geography. Besides, the chances of a non-Native born American actually being elected President are very slim. There are several unwritten requirements for being President of the U.S., such as being Caucasian, male, Christian, (usually Protestant. So far, we've only had one Catholic as president and he wasn't allowed to live out his term). It would take a lot for a naturalized American to be elected president, and if he or she was, so be it. Let's face it, an immigrant who becomes an American has to learn a lot about our system, more than the average American born here has to know. If someone can jump through all of the hoops and pass all of the tests to become an American citizen, they should have all the rights that go with it. Just my (serious) opinion.
Don't worry, the Germans don't.
See how easy it is to generalize?
Separate names with a comma.