You Ever Notice...and What's the Deal...

[minor muppetz]

A few things about the 1939 Wizard of Oz movie:

• What happened to Ms. Gultch after Dorthy came back? She was going to take Toto to the sheriff to have him put to sleep, he runs away, but at the end, after the dream, we never hear of her again (technically we hadn't heard from her since she was shown transforming into the witch when Dorthy was in the tornado), she doesn't show up at the end, we don't know if she still wants Toto put to sleep, the others don't seem to say if it's okay for Toto to remain alive.
• The Scarecrow doesn't have a brain, but aside from his first meeting with Dorthy he doesn't seem to be particularly stupid. And while the Tin Man doesn't have a heart, he doesn't seem heartless at all. He's pretty much kind in the whole film, except when he has to deal with the witch.
• Also, Scarecrow doesn't have a brain but apparently has a heart, while the Tin Man has a brain but no heart? Or maybe they are both missing a brain and a heart but one only cares about having a heart and the other only cares abut having a brain.

 

[D'Snowth]

1. I always assumed that since she turned out to be the Wicked Witch of the East (and West), who was killed when the house landed on her, that Ms. Gulch somehow got killed in the storm herself.
2 and 3. I think the lesson of the story was that they already had those things, they just didn't realize it.

 

[minor muppetz]

Ever notice how in media, bald characters with hair around the sides of their heads are often referred to as having no hair? They still have the hair that goes around the back of their heads, so it's not like they are completely hairless (though still definitely bald).

Like in one episode of Rugrats where the Grandpa is concerned about being bald, Tommy asks Angelica what the deal is, and Angelica says that having no hair makes you remain a baby forever (with the intention of scaring Tommy into thinking he'll always be a baby). Tommy points out that his grandpa is not a baby, and Angelica says "he has hair, just not on his head", before mentioning he has hair in his nose and ears, without mentioning the hair that goes around the sides and back of his head.

And another example is in Back to the Future. When Marty sees the 1955 Mr. Strickland, who has a little hair around the back of his head, Marty replies "didn't he ever have any hair?" But at least this one has some hair, compared to 1985. Actually, with Marty making that line, I think it would have been better if the 1955 Strickland was just as bald as the 1985 Strickland.

Speaking of Back to the Future, in Part II, when Mr. Strickland sees Biff with the Sports Almanac (which turns out to be a lingerie magazine with the Sports Almanac dust jacket over it), he sees Biff with it and takes it away from him. It'd be one thing if he was looking at his magazine in class when he was supposed to be doing his work/listening to the teacher, but here he's at the school dance. Why'd he have to take it away at the dance?

 

[Muppet fan 123]

PG gives the false impression of hipper, edgier movie intended for the cool kids and G gives the impression of baby film. Why Pixar decided to go with a G for Monsters University just goes to show you how much guff they have. No one would dare get a G rating. And quite honestly, even I found the horrify the adults scene a little creepy for a G.

The movie studio doesn't pick out their rating, do they? I was under the impression that the MPAA and the other film rating companies were in charge of that..

And I agree with you on the scaring the adults scene. I was surprised that was given a G rating. Same goes for the 'Garbage Dump' scene in Toy Story 3.

 

[D'Snowth]

Personally, I find giving a kids' movie a PG rating because of a character (or more) smoking a slap in the face... I mean, kids are exposed to that everyday in the real world. Heck, there's been LOONEY TUNES cartoons with smoking!

 

[Drtooth]

Personally, I find giving a kids' movie a PG rating because of a character (or more) smoking a slap in the face... I mean, kids are exposed to that everyday in the real world. Heck, there's been LOONEY TUNES cartoons with smoking!

I swear that smoking in a movie now gives you a hard R.

The Smurfs 2 had a disclaimer about how they didn't accept any payola from big tobacco for whatever smoking occurred in the film... which was none.

 

[D'Snowth]

I'll tell ya what, some of Mel Brooks's old movies were given PG ratings, but even then, they were more worthy of PG-13. Like take YOUNG FRANKENSTEIN for example, funny movie, but it has a LOT of swearing (and I don't "mild" words, I mean the kind you still can't say on television), as well as suggestive dialogue and content, yet back them, it was only PG, and I think one of the people who worked on the movie said on a featurette on the DVD how much their kids loved the movie; so it's amazing how much things have changed between then and now.

In fact, it's amazing looking back, and seeing how there was so much you couldn't show on TV, but so much you could in movies, but today, it's quite the opposite.

 

[AquaGGR]

The PG-13 rating was introduced in 1984, so some movies before that that have a PG rating could probably have lots of swearing and violence.

 

[minor muppetz]

I was watching A Goofy Movie last night, and it makes me wonder, was Bobby on eof Max's best friends up to that time, or just somebody he knew from school who helped him become cool with the whole school? I know PJ is Max's best friend, but the advertisements play up Bobby as his best friend, and by the sequel it's clear that Max and Bobby are close friends (maybe because of how cool Max became on the last day of school...?), but in his introductory scene, he supplies Max with equipment in exchange for cheese, looking like he was just doing a favor. And while PJ gets a few significant scenes throughout the film, Bobby doesn't come back until the end when he's watching the concert. Though it might have been hard to work in ways for him to show up on the road like Pete and PJ.

And at the end, when the people from Max's school are watching the concert on TV, Bobby is the first to remark "That's not the Goof kid!" And as they are watching, Roxanne's friend Stacy reassures that Max will be there, while also giving a nervous look on her face. I wonder what made her so sure.... That line would have made more sense coming from Roxanne (trusting him too much) or Bobby (knowing him a lot better.. right?).

 

[Drtooth]

I'll tell ya what, some of Mel Brooks's old movies were given PG ratings, but even then, they were more worthy of PG-13. Like take YOUNG FRANKENSTEIN for example, funny movie, but it has a LOT of swearing (and I don't "mild" words, I mean the kind you still can't say on television), as well as suggestive dialogue and content, yet back them, it was only PG, and I think one of the people who worked on the movie said on a featurette on the DVD how much their kids loved the movie; so it's amazing how much things have changed between then and now.

Let's not forget the wacky sexcapades in that film. Would you believe there's actually a porno ripoff of that movie? Probably goes a little further.

I also noticed Space Balls got a PG rating on home video, considering the "We Ain't Found XXXX" and "XXXX! Even in the Future, nothing works!"