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Your Thoughts: Dark Crystal and Labyrinth Anniversary DVD's

Discussion in 'Fantasy Worlds' started by Phillip, Aug 14, 2007.

  1. frogboy4

    frogboy4 Inactive Member

    :scary: To answer your question about the borders…they never actually appeared in the theatrical film. On the VHS copy of the opening credits instead of cropping the sides of the picture or placing the widescreen black bars (that used to confuse people) they painted in the beautiful golden weaved boarders. Once the credits were over they sliced into the film resulting in a pan and scan ratio. This current DVD transfer isn't the best, but it is the truest version of the film so far in color and widescreen ratio. The Disney/Buena Visa release and packaging (the green box version) oversaturated the colors marring much of the watercolor charm of the visuals.

    The Dark Crystal is one of my favorite films of all-time. The latest DVD release (there have been multiple packagings in recent years) seems like a half-hearted effort. However, it tops many fan lists for future Blu-ray release and those usually contain a restored print and many fantastic extras; so by the time this format becomes a fixture in most homes a high quality release will be available. That's the one I'm most looking forward to. This one isn’t bad and I do have it, but I was disappointed as a collector and particular enthusiast of this picture. Still, the film’s on it and that’s the most important part! ;)
  2. MJTaylor

    MJTaylor Well-Known Member

    Thanks for that. I never saw it in the theatre so like most people the home video was my introduction to The Dark Cystal. Mind you, I have also seen it on TV and the gold borders were on that presentation as well. The closing credits were also the same, although I think they went a bit faster on TV, if my memory serves me correctly.
  3. JustListen

    JustListen Active Member

    I agree with you so much. I just bought it and I was disappointed with how much was actually incorporated into the package. I would've loved to see more concept art instead of just a handful of Skeksis and UrRu drawings. But the three documentaries that were on the DVD were astounding and the Commentary with Brian Froud was fascinating. Not to mention, the film's resolution was impressive. So it wasn't all too bad, I supposed. I still spent the whole weekend watching the movie (a grand total of 5 times on just saturday!). But I would love to see a Blu-ray special edition with many more features. That would please me.
  4. JustListen

    JustListen Active Member

    That is a shame. It saddens me that someone could be embarrassed by something that others consider the jewels of their childhood. :sympathy: But that's the con of the trade, I guess.
  5. muppet baby

    muppet baby Well-Known Member

    I know i totally agree with you there i mean i love all the Jim Henson stuff it is a Jim ok i will adimit something about both the Dark Crystal and Laybarith , they did scare me as a kid but i watched them when ever they where on Tv for me it was a good kind of scared and not a bad one ;).
    It is still a Jewel of my childhood like many others of you have it as well :)
  6. frogboy4

    frogboy4 Inactive Member

    Jennifer Connelly should be embarrassed by Dark Water, not Labyrinth. She had the opportunity to work with one of the greatest minds in entertainment. It was a distinct privilege that she should be proud of. David Bowie permits his likeness for current action figures while she hides from the film. It makes me almost as sad as she looked win she won her Oscar for Beautiful Mind. Honestly, if she can't be happy for such praise then her outlook is clearly skewed. I cannot imagine Labyrinth without her. I think she should provide some material when the film is finally released on Blu-ray. I expect Labyrinth to hit that format soon since Sony owns both Columbia Tri-Star and Blu-ray. ;)
  7. JustListen

    JustListen Active Member

    Amen to that, Sir!:super:
  8. animal0606

    animal0606 Well-Known Member

    Some people forget there roots, Labyrinth help her get to where she is at today. Nothing to be embarrassed about.
  9. Redsonga

    Redsonga Well-Known Member

    I think some people forget how lucky they have had it, at such a young age to:eek:
  10. Andibcool

    Andibcool Well-Known Member

    Just a fyi there are 4 kinds of DVDs for booth movies out here in germany.
    For the labyrinth i found 4 versions so far.
    1. old one from 2002 from sony pictures widescreen
    2. special edition 2004 from columbia tristar in 16:9
    3. anniversery edition 2007 from sony pictures 16:9 2 DVDs
    4. Labyrinth and dark crystal collectors pack 2008 ( booth films in one box ) from sony pictires.
    Seems to be the special edition ( written on disk )

    Its almost the same for the dark crytal.

    I bought me booth movies in 1 box witch seem to be the special editions for a bargain price.
  11. muppet baby

    muppet baby Well-Known Member

    that is really great that you where able to get the bargen price dvds . I love to find those kinds of DVDs in places . :)
  12. Andibcool

    Andibcool Well-Known Member

  13. i was happy enough with the dark crystal aniversary dvd but i did wish they included the whole storyboard, that would have been awesome :). and maybe a tonne of behind the scenes photos.
  14. SKANZO

    SKANZO Member

    Why are people assuming she is embarrassed about Labyrinth? I have not seen anything quotes from her talking trash about Labyrinth. Maybe she wasn't asked to do the audio commentary? I don't think she is the type of actress that tries to hide from her past films. I could be wrong, but I never sensed that from her, from any of the interviews I have read with her over the years.
    Unless someone has a link to a statement or interview where she bad mouths Labyrinth, I wouldn't assume she dislikes it or discounts it from her film career.

    my 2 cents.
  15. frogboy4

    frogboy4 Inactive Member

    I don't see where this thread states that Jennifer Connelly bad-mouths the film. However, she has been notoriously evasive and dismissive when talking about Labyrinth throughout her career (until recently). It's a well-known fan fact; seek out all of her interviews where the film is mentioned if you can find them. They're out there, but it's hard to sift through all of them to see that tiny blurb here or there where the question is quickly dismissed.

    She has never been unkind, but Labyrinth is something she's reluctant to talk about when asked. Perhaps it's something she was asked about a lot and she got tired of the question, but it is the film that launched her career and has more of a following than other big budget features that she will comment about. I can understand her being embarrassed by a performance done as a teenager when she can do much better work now. I still enjoy her in the film.

    She isn't very Hollywood and I find that refreshing. She also seems uncomfortable with interviews and public appearances in the first place. However, she still will answer questions about the ill-fated Hulk film. Connelly is kind of odd and that's cool. Maybe she's just hiding in general. She got to work with Jim Henson on his last film as a director. Few actors would be able to shut up about something like that.

    Nobody really knows why she has avoided the topic - or why that particular topic in thread has been resurrected when we're already onto the Blu-ray release discussion? Brian Froud commentary! Whoohoo!
  16. RedPiggy

    RedPiggy Well-Known Member

    Maybe she ate a peach and forgot. :p

    JEANYLASER Well-Known Member

    The Dark Crystal is awesome!
  18. SKANZO

    SKANZO Member

    The special editions of Labyrinth and Dark Crystal already have Brian Froud commentaries on them. Is there actually anything NEW on these Blue-Rays, I noticed the one post did have some extra's in BOLD, but I wasn't sure if those were new or not.

    Also, personally I think the digitally restored and cleaned up Dark Crystal is actually not a very good version to watch. It's TOO clean, I think it actually makes the movie seem more "fake", the older prints with the dust and scratches feels more "weathered" and believable. Some films just aren't meant to be ultra fine and clean.
  19. frogboy4

    frogboy4 Inactive Member

    Sony doesn't clean up their movies as much as other companies so I wouldn't expect a complaint. In fact, many people actually complain that they don't give it that "fake" look. However, unless you're old enough to have seen the original run in the theaters, the subsequent transfers have lost their initial luster. The original wasn't as weathered as some might imagine. Restoration is good. What Disney did when Buena Vista released the VHS many years ago was bad. The saturated colors were terrible.
  20. WackaWacka92

    WackaWacka92 New Member

    I do kind of agree with the consensus here -- that the 25th Anniversary Edition isn't that good -- but I do, for some reason, like it. I mean, sure, it shouldn't have been released after the Collector's Edition, implying, on Sony's behalf, that it is a better version, but it isn't that bad when you look at some other releases. The Coen Brothers' "The Big Lebowski" was re-released as a "Special Edition" which contained no discernible differences to the regular edition, aside from a sky-rocketed price tag. I do not have "Labyrinth" in my collection so I can only speculate from what people have said here, and reviews of it, that it is much the same - little features compared to previous releases. I do think that, at some point, all Muppet films should be released again in one boxset, or at least individually, with a lot more bonus features -- reflective documentaries, directors and casts that are fans of the Muppet films speaking about their greatness, etc. But, until the day that either they are released, or a 50th Anniversary of each is released, we'll just have to cut our loses and accept the features we have.

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