Wow... rough crowd Contains a couple of VERY mild spoilers Ok... I know a bunch of you were expecting the Muppet Movie, except one better, but i think because you weren't blown away by the overall movie, you missed some of the subtleties. I think it WAS a return to the old style of Muppet movies. A lot of the elemenets of The Muppet Movie were back, including the overall feel of the piece... where it felt less like a manufactured Muppet world inhabited by a few humans and more like the Muppets of old, just being their own little part of the real world. I personally loved the character of Pilgrim. To me she embodied what a dog would be like if they talked.... hyper, somewhat nonsensical, and thrilled by things only a dog could love. Goggles and Croaker were also very well done. Goggles was a great obsesive compulsive Woddy Allen type and Croaker, though obviously a weird mix of Johnny Fiama and Pepe, had some great lines and was a good, solid character. I thought the references to Jim were fun, though sadly made WAY too obvious (come on... did we need the full screen shot of the mailbox)? The running gag with the bunnies was true classic Muppets (and an adult joke, I may add) The songs weren't show stoppers (as my friend pointed out, you could tell that Paul Williams wasn't involved), but they were stronger than most that have come out of recent family fare, and at least the muppets got to sing again. The Pet song was definitely classic Muppet style. Not to say there weren't some serious down sides. In general, the human acting was sub par and was missing that key Muppet ingrediant of throwing in famous faces in roles you would never expect (though this wasn't surprising after seeing the lack of famous faces at the 25th anniversary celebration... guess today's Hollywood crop is "too good" to work with the Muppets). The other thing that was seriously missing from a classic Muppet standpoint was characters. Most of the Muppets were extras, with limited personalities and lines. That was one of the things that made the early muppet movies so endearing was that there were new characters popping up everywhere and each had a real personality. I also agree tha thte flashback was a bit on the dark and twisted side and for a movie that is geared primarily towards kids, coudl be very distrubing. To sum up in short... I found myself laughing frequently and at times hard. This is impressive, since I'm not an easy sell when it comes to comedy (The Farrelly Brothers leave me flat). Plus, as with other newer movies, the cut scenes were the best part of all. In todays movie market, I give it atleast a 6 out of 10 (bordering on a 7) and hope it's a spring board for even greater Muppet movies to come. It's got to be hard without the genius of Jim... I'd say they are doing pretty good, considering.