Why people dislike modern Sesame Street

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Plus keep in mind they are writing and producing the shows for children, not for us. What we want to see and what kids pay attention to and can keep focused on are two different things.
Still, sometimes what kids pay attention to and what will actually help them are two different things. :wink:
 

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The block format wouldn't even bug me if they at least filmed NEW Murray intros every year. I'm shocked viewership was up with all that reused footage.
 

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I still enjoy watching Sesamea Street though I prefer it before it got revamped. One of the things I liked about the older version was that there was one basic storyline that spanned the entire segment which was then interspersed with smaller clips to back up the main point (the letter of the day, the number of the day, the theme, etc). It allowed for more story to the show I think. Now it seems broken up way too much and the story lines seem dumbed down more. Although I do appreciate the use of some of the older stuff like for the letters and numbers.
 

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A lot has to do with the block format. And I don't mean the recent one. The 2002 one where it first surfaced and they tried to get away from.

Watching older episodes, I really have to say I like what they did in the 80's up until season 32... they had street stories with one connected plot, rather than segmented, disconnected street bits. I think, story wise, the breaks in the episode (the letter and number "commercials" and other skits) gave a good flow to the stories, and made the time pass in a different, almost real time way. There was no ripple dissolve to a later part of the story you get with having a 10-15 minute story segment then the letter and number and other skits. I think that contributes to why the stories have an off feeling to them in recent years. Though, there were some pretty good ones. I just wonder what they would have been like split up. The Oscar and Telly go on a road trip episodes seems to feel like it was an edited together version of something that could have been on an earlier season. Think how great if it took Telly and Oscar the entire hour to wind up finding Roscoe was in the back seat the whole time, instead of 10 minutes.
 

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I don't get why we still get Sesame Street videos that follow the "magazine" format, even when we have the lousy block format in place.
 

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I'm wondering if that's a sort of compromise. Maybe a hint of testing if that format could work on the show itself. It's very obvious everyone wants to go back to the original format... they tried it several seasons ago, but it was an unfortunate failure due to lack of Elmo in those episodes. So maybe that's their way of using the older format in a different medium.
 

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I really don't understand everyone's hatred towards the block format, unless it's simply because everyone's in that sort of "purist" mindframe that they'll only accept the original commercial/magazine format.

Caroll Spinney even said when they tried out the block format back for Season 33, their ratings shot up, and I think I can see the advantages of the block format being predictable, and that the little kids will know what to expect, while at the same time, still getting the educational lessons and whatnot out of them.
 

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Caroll Spinney even said when they tried out the block format back for Season 33, their ratings shot up, and I think I can see the advantages of the block format being predictable, and that the little kids will know what to expect, while at the same time, still getting the educational lessons and whatnot out of them.
Predictable doesn't necessarily mean educational. Neither does good ratings. :wink:
 

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I'm saying that the little kids are getting the educational content out of the show, whether it follows a more commercial/magazine format, or if it follows a predictable block format.
 

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