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A question about Fraggle Rock UK version

Discussion in 'Fraggle Rock' started by muppet baby, Mar 9, 2009.

  1. johnpeters999

    johnpeters999 Well-Known Member

    Thats because most of the paper work is in such a mess there could not sell the rights to anyone. Disney even control UK gameshow called Catchphrase S1 - S11.

    I'm lead to believe if the tapes were found, HIT first clam to them, but I believe Disney owns some aspect of the old Jim henson company. Im not sure who would have total control over them?

    I still believe the tapes are here and are in Ashford - KENT.

    why really stuck me, is WHY FOX would want the english tv programmes? ie the NON MTM stuff and why there never got past to the new Flextech company, who is on own by Virgin. I bet there would have shiped them out on DVD!

    I wish Pizza cat would come out
  2. PaulSebert

    PaulSebert New Member

    Just out of curiosity has anyone here seen the later seasons of the UK version of the show? I was wondering if the death of the actor who played The Captain was ever brought up sort of like Mr. Hooper's passing on Sesame Street?

    I was particularly curious as to how they handled the Honk of Honks/Change of Address episodes.
  3. BlueFrackle

    BlueFrackle Well-Known Member

    Apparently the UK storyline for the last episodes is that the Lighthouse can now be run by computers and there is no need for a lighthouse attendant anymore, so the keeper has to leave.
  4. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    nonononono... Fox wants to control EVERYTHING! They'd buy up anything lying around if they had the chance. Rupert Murdoch scares the blazes out of me. Think somehow they were forced to sell things off, especially Fox Family to Disney.

    A one volume DVD was released by a fourth party ONLY available on amazon like 3 or 4 years ago. Other than that, nada. Unless you wanna spend like several hundred dollars on a DVD set of the original Japanese edition... but then it would be in Raw Japanese, and it's not half as funny as the dub. But I'm REALLY annoyed by the fact Disney's not finishing off The Tick. I barely saw half of the third season, and NO one posted them online yet.
  5. Danie and Lemmy

    Danie and Lemmy New Member

    If there are legal issues preventing Disney from selling the stuff they got when they bought Fox Family, then how was Haim Saban able to buy back the rights to the Power Rangers recently?
  6. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    When did THAT happen? That must have REALLY been recent, since I still see MMPR stuff popping up all over the Disney Store?

    But then again, Saban is a very rich children's programming magnate... I'd almost figure he went over Disney's heads and just bought the original Japanese series directly from the source or something.

    MAN, I hope he buys up everything else too. Pizza Cats, Eek and the last season of the Tick (and the skipped episodes) NEED to be on DVD. I don't care if the 2 former are up on Youtube.
  7. johnpeters999

    johnpeters999 Well-Known Member

    I have no idea but then again, TVS paper work has gone through more than one owner, its more like 4! If this was the case then Challenge tv would have been able to get the rights to buy/broadcast catchphrase S1.

    Haim is American company is it not? most of the TVS is English. Maybe someone took a bit more care about the paper work I bet MTM paperwork is all sorted and dusted.

    Why would Disney care about some two bit Gameshow or No73 sat morning show? there dont, so thus there dont care about the paperwork, typical......

    This still does not get us any further forward with the tapes
  8. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    Saban is a Worldwide company, that I know of. He's Egyptian, and the company headquarters could very well have been there. I'm guessing, like Disney, Saban had no idea that he had that stuff, and just really had some sort of share in the family channel that Disney bought up. I find the whole thing silly, and basically politicing on Fox's behalf so they can buy a more influential channel, Fox being Fox. I don't know all the details, if they had to pawn the network off or they had every intention of selling it for another channel. but whatever happened, I don't understand why Disney got a back catalog of something that Fox only sort of owned, especially when they had no intention of doing anything with half of it... but again, if we have to point fingers, go to the rich Australian Neo-Con, not the overly cluttered House of Mouse.

    They apparently cared about MMPR for several years. Still do. Still making merchandising too. It's all over the Disney Store. Gotta admit, I'm not a big fan, but I actually want those buddy packs they sell. The point is, they had the intention to market that show, but I don't even think they know about old British Tv rights that changed hands unintentionally.

    I still don't see why rights to things unused or neglected don't get negotiated back to the original owners, but hey... that's what rights are.
  9. johnpeters999

    johnpeters999 Well-Known Member

    Because Original owners TVS were brought over, included that Studio at Maidstone, by Family channel channel. ( the Studio at Maidstone was sold off around 1998)

    the only people that would want achieve would be ITV, but there would have NO legal clam to the programmes,expect there were made for there network.
  10. Danie and Lemmy

    Danie and Lemmy New Member

    I think it happened it early May.
  11. johnpeters999

    johnpeters999 Well-Known Member

    I wish to ask if there has been any further progress with the missing uk epsoides,

    I did try to email someone at company but there not taken a interest, I still beleive Ashford, warehouse in kent is the key to this
  12. BlueFrackle

    BlueFrackle Well-Known Member

    Maybe a visit is in order?
  13. johnpeters999

    johnpeters999 Well-Known Member

    I have email HIT entermenment again about this, and there have yet to reply.

    As someone has said these tape may be in the hands of Disney but there have no legal claim over them! thus there can get the tapes back.
  14. johnpeters999

    johnpeters999 Well-Known Member

    Its seem the FIRST series is now on DVD: produced by Lionsgate Home Entertainment, Edit:

    Turns out it is the USA version, which personnel I think is utter disgrace. I still not sure who we need to speak to about informing about the ashford warehouse.
  15. BlueFrackle

    BlueFrackle Well-Known Member

    As we know the recent DVD releases have been of the US version of Fraggle Rock.

    Here is a list of UK episodes that have been released (I've only listed each episode once as some of the early VHS releases were released on DVD):

    2004 DVD Release:
    Secret of Convincing John
    Capture The Moon
    Boobers Dream
    Mokey and the minstrels
    The Day the Music Died
    Boobers Quite Day
    Invasion of the Toe Ticklers
    A Friend in Need
    Reds Club
    Doomsday Soup
    Junuior Sells the Farm

    1984 RCA VHS (eps not on DVD):
    117 Marooned
    118 The Minstrels
    119 Great Radish Famine
    121 Gobo’s Discovery
    122 Mokeys Funeral
    123 Beast of Blue Rock
    201 Wembleys Egg
    212 The Doozer Contest
    220 A Cave of Ones Own
    221 Wembley and the Great Race
    222 Doozer is as Doozer Does

    Does anyone have any episodes that weren't released? Taped from TV?

  16. blackiecats

    blackiecats Member

    Disney were the last to release it on home video back in 1995, when they released 3 VHS volumes! (Meet the Fraggles! Fraggle Fun & Doozer Doings, The Fraggles Search & Find) unless those were also the US versions?

    One of these tapes is on eBay UK now!

    However from reading this thread and the posts about TVS, it's almost certain Disney hold the UK masters.

    Unfortunately, if HIT keep releasing the American version on DVD in the UK, this means an almost zero chance the UK version will ever get a DVD release as folks won't buy both just for the lighthouse segments! Disney will see that and will let the UK versions rot away in their vaults....:concern:
  17. BlueFrackle

    BlueFrackle Well-Known Member

  18. BlueFrackle

    BlueFrackle Well-Known Member

    I've just found another UK opening that is just Sprocket in the lighthouse. That's atleast three openings for the episodes with the Captain and another new opening for both P.K and B.J.

  19. Boober_Gorg

    Boober_Gorg Well-Known Member

    I'm guessing that opening was only used in Born to Wander (the 4th UK season premiere), when P.K. arrives for the first time. Maybe the Captain left at the end of the previous season.
  20. Boober_Gorg

    Boober_Gorg Well-Known Member

    I know the UK versions of "The Garden Plot" and "Born to Wander" exist. I also tried getting in touch with someone in the UK who posted here that he had the final three of the series. Those would be something to see.

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