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Discussion in 'Action Figures' started by Stryder Wolfe, Feb 13, 2003.

  1. Luke

    Luke Active Member

    Guys, i get your points on my CC remarks - i didn't mean that they should take everybodys pocket books into account and only make cheaper figures. Just maybe that they should have pointed out right from the start that the prices for figures could fluctuate and multiple figure packs may be released. I know it's easy for me to say that with hindsight and it was a good thing they started the club and got it together quickly for people.

    Cory, i'm glad you are looking forward to the lobsters - they really are a niche fan favorite. I just get the feeling the 'chickie in the basket' would have been a lot more popular and made the Chef figure better priced and a better seller for Palisades and mainstream fans in general. Articulated lobsters don't exactly scream 'Buy' at me but each to our own tastes. Yeah i know how you feel about Pepe's face now ! LOL !
  2. BAZ

    BAZ New Member

    I'm agreeing with Luke on this one. I had planned on skipping the kitchen and just getting the repainted chef. Cost is not my issue, it storage space. I'm running out of places to put this stuff! After seeing the messy Chef, I may get the kitchen after all. He's just too messed up.
  3. frogboy4

    frogboy4 Inactive Member

    Luke

    The Lobsters were booted from the kithcen at the 11th hour because the Kitchen was already too expensive. Since the sculps were already made (and expensive too) they bumped the Chiken en dur Baskee (that had been reported) in favor of the lobsters. Wait another year and we could very well get those pesky Baskee chickens. Personally, I think it would be cool if a Tux Chef came with those accessories. It gets a new sculpt of Chef and and the pack ins we want. Not that they necessarily match, but we mix and match our sets anyway.
  4. ResidentLilly

    ResidentLilly Active Member

    The prices will fluctuate on club purchases. There was a Micronauts figure that was a bundle for over 75.00, and another Micro set for 40.

    Not sure if we really should have said we planned to stick to 15.00 especially since that wasn't even the plan at the time. The basic figure price on the exclusive is 15.00, though...that's a calculated number based on volume and costs. You have the Chef, for example, that will be 20.00. That's 15.00 for the Chef and 5.00 for three pack-ins and weapons. We figured that was a fair deal all things considered. The reality is on the cost aspects that we should have charged 25.00. All goes back to costs being amortized over the volume.

    Animal Tour is 15.00, Chef is 20.00, Bunsen and Beaker will be 25.00, Statler and Waldorf will likely be 30.00. We were able to cut the 15.00 per average cost on B & B because a lot of the tooling and amortized costs have been covered by other Beakers in past releases.

    I don't blame anybody for being frustrated over prices. But I just want to explain that it is always really well-thought out and arrived at as fairly as possible.
  5. FellowWLover

    FellowWLover Member

    That Swedish Chef reminds me of something...

    You know how people are always taking photos of their kids with messy food faces, like after they dive into a first birthday cake or eat a chocolate ice cream cone? I guess it was really cute at the time, but in reality, once it gets to you, it is just an icky photo of a messy kid that isn't yours.

    I'd rather have a copy of the yearly portrait, or at least a Christmas candid... sloppy might be funny, but it isn't that nice to look at.
  6. Zack the Dog

    Zack the Dog Active Member

    LOL! i guess they want to really make this on diffrent from the reg kicthen one. well whatever, i'm still getting both but i think they should clean him up a little.

    the lobsters look great!!!!
  7. smcguire

    smcguire New Member

    When I joined the club, I didn't get the impression that all the figures offered would be $15. I didn't get a price impression at all, beyond that the first couple would be $15. I just got the impression that I'd be offered an opportunity to buy the exclusive figures... And if now some of them cost more, well, it's my option not to buy them. $20 for the figure plus three different lobsters seems reasonable to me.

    And I think the Spanish-talking, shooting lobsters is one of the more famous Swedish Chef skits, so I don't think it's a better or worse choice than the Chickee-in-der-baskie. I'll be happy to have the lobsters.

    And finally I think the Culinary Catastrophe Chef is hilarious, and so do several of my co-workers. :)

    --Scott McGuire
  8. Fozzie Bear

    Fozzie Bear Active Member

    Here's what I'm thinking. Suppose you were going to go to a convention in another state. You have to pay for travel and rooming expenses, plus food and entry to the convention. By the time you add all that up, the "one trip" of $30 isn't that bad, considering the prices of the figures and how much you'd pay to get out to buy one. Or, trying to get one off ebay or another auction for $65 or $150 and it's in the same box etc. that you get from the CC.

    No, I don't think there's anything bad about the cost of the figures.

    And I'm not kissing buttox either; that would cost THEM up to $50...
    :p
  9. Wander McMooch

    Wander McMooch New Member

    Maybe I'm coming from a different place here, but I don't see that much of a problem. I'll probably pass on Tux Beaker and Bunsen, but that Swedish Chef variant is way too cool to pass up.

    As for the price, well, I'm used to buying those darn Hasbro Batman Animated four-packs just to get one new figure (often the only new one for the year). This is a superior action figure which is well-painted and comes with three equally well-painted add-ins.

    I think that I'm joining that Collector's Club after all. I'd like to pick Chef up as well as the "Mystery New Figure" and maybe even Vaudeville Statler and Waldorf.
  10. Stryder Wolfe

    Stryder Wolfe New Member

    well, I was a little hesitant in joining the club initially, being an "international" member, because of the high cost of shipping and exchange rates, but I decided what the heck, and I honestly haven't been disappointed in the slightest. And I'm not exactly rolling in the dough here (unlike the Chef exclusive :p)
  11. Luke

    Luke Active Member

    It's good business practice for ANY company when selling a product like a club membership to set forward in basic terms what the costs will be in the future or at least some warning of them. It's not good enough to say "oh give us $30 and we'll let you buy whatever we decide to put out this year" - thats pretty amateur because it's ambiguous. If the line hadn't sold they could have increased the figure prices dramatically or even just put one or two out, and still been within rights to keep peoples money yet i'm sure people would have been hopping mad. Some people are more clued up (from either reading MC or Palisades forums) on what the exclusives were going to be or how much the prices might be, some people also will be more aware than others on how much it costs to product an action figure and that some processes cost more than others. For the average joe who just buys a product, types in the URL from the blister and joins the club there should have been some clearer terms and conditions as to what might and might not happen in the future as it saves argument later on and makes the company look better. Same when international people suddenly discovered the extortionate shipping prices for them which were hidden away halfway down an order form.

    Anyway, that was the basic point i was trying to make, i'm not even going to bother arguing it out any more because its such basic business practice, i don't blame them as they were new to it an set it up quickly - just saying it would be wise to warn people signing up about how future costs can fluctuate and how many exclusives they can expect on average to be offered. I don't have a problem with the price of the CC figures or exclusives - $19 for a Toyfare Vacation Fozzie wasn't bad, and $20 for Chef with articulated lobsters isnt bad either, although it seems this isn't by choice but because the lobsters were sculpted so HAD to be made.

    So anyway nobody answered on the chef glazing shiny paint thing - is that really on his face or was it just the light exposure in the photo thats made it look shiny in the closeup ?
  12. Zack the Dog

    Zack the Dog Active Member

    I feel the lobsters are a great idea, this isn't a store EX, only for a show, so i would say these would sell well, this is a great character with three pack-in's! it's ture to the show, fan based but also a figure that could apeal to everyone. i mean even if a lot of scalpers buy them by the ton, they are still being sold...then they put them on e-bay...hardly anyone buys them because they maybe in the CC and can get them so the scaplers go hungery for a few weeks.

    kevin (Foz) puts it a great way, this is the cheepest price you will pay for it, why only if you lived next door to the place where the show is taken place would be the cheepest. but actualy going to the show, travel and everything would cost a lot. i'm not really for anything on his face, but i am getting the kicthen. i do think it was a good idea for people who want the chef but can not aford the playset or don't have room for it could buy this repaint but the paint on his face may turn some people down.
  13. frogboy4

    frogboy4 Inactive Member

    This is just the beginning of the Collector's Club and Palisades is a small company. They really have to learn as they go, but the membership fee has already payed for itself with the first package. I don't have a lot of cash, but I am commited to this line as a fan. That's what it's about. I'm sure Palisades do what they can to keep the price down. Most collectors know that some exclusive items are going to cost no matter what club they join - and the club was never a discount deal. It was a way to get the figures to the fans instead of the Ebay crowd. I don't find it necessary for them to add some fine print about every issue that could come up. People can make their own decisions and ask their own questions before joining. :eek:
  14. Bulldawg

    Bulldawg New Member

    ya know the chef is cool...but im kinda diggin the grotesque HOD Bob figure that was featured in the bit as well. now THAT is a great sculpt.
    :eek:
  15. Luke

    Luke Active Member

    I don't think the issue is about price, it's just about good buisness practice and good customer relations. I'm not suggesting they have fine print for every issue that comes up but when you are talking about a virtual product rather than a physical one, companies are usually a lot clearer at the start about what people are buying into and what will happen during the membership period. I know Palisades started it up quickly just to satisfy the few fans on the boards who were getting ripped off on the exclusives but if they would have thought about it a bit more at the start it would have saved all the issues about the club that have come up since. It's probably a bit of a poor excuse to say people should ask their own questions - if Palisades accepted their money then their customers expect a certain level of professional service and to know in advance what that service will be. Anyway, can't do anything about that now, but surely this club will grow and grow what with the Transformers and Street Fighter fans being way larger in number than us - maybe its something for them to look into.

    As for the price of the CC - i agree that it's not too bad, about the same as joining any fan club nowdays. It may have paid for itself in the fans eyes if they got the 'extra' suprise but i think the original package itself (without that) is about right for the money. What i do think they should sort out is their shipping charges (especially international) which aren't very competitive and probably put a lot of customers off joining. I understand that they need certain safeguards in sending things out so that can't be helped, but hopefully they are going to try to get the costs down a bit this year, and the members and all the new members who i expect would join as a result could get a better deal.

    I notice that a lot of people here are saying the Chef's face is too messy, interesting how that differs from the really hardcore figure collectors on the Palisades forum who really love it like that.
  16. Zack the Dog

    Zack the Dog Active Member

    yes this is interesting Luke, I think Palisades just wants to do something else with Chef, this isn't a repaint exactly, but an Ex, so they want to give it a different feel, i think the lobsters and some mess on his apron are enough, but i still think it's a cool idea, i just feel bad for those who want a nice looking clean chef (or at least his face) but can't aford to buy the whole kitchen.
  17. beaker

    beaker Well-Known Member

    Messy chef, clean chef, firefighter chef...I just want those DARN LOBSTERS! ^_^
  18. frogboy4

    frogboy4 Inactive Member

    Luke

    I just don't think people need that kind of nurse maiding. It's up t an individual to consider his or her investment. I really don't see many actual club members complaining too much. It seems to be others who haven't joined finding fault with Palisades' system and coming up with solutions. The fee has already paid for itself. It just seems ridiculous to complain. The original purpose of the CC was very clear. It was not to give discounts to members - it was a way to get the figures to them at the retail price without Ebay markup. I consider it a huge success. Nobody's pointing a gun to anyone's head making him or her buy the Chef. People can make their own choices. Why should Palisades have to hold everyone's hand through their decisions? :rolleyes:

    I just don't get it.:confused:
  19. Luke

    Luke Active Member

    Re: Luke

    Well because they are an ever growing toy company with a responsibility to their customers, and leaving unanswered questions at the start leads to more and more questions and confusion from the middle to the end that they then have to answer. If you ever have done or do a business studies course they always teach you to treat the customer as if they don't know a thing about you and educate them from there. Thats because otherwise you have to deal with people who have differing levels of understanding, differing preconceptions and great communication and clarity with the customer gives the company a more 'people friendly' image and will usually lead to MORE sales. It's the same with website design - most designers keep it simple, have easy to undertand navigation, faq's and the like to get people coming back and more hits.

    I'm NOT complaining or attacking, i have no reason to do that. I just noticed that a lot of the collectors club members are asking lots of questions as they go along - will XX be offered to members before my membership expires, XX is in Toyfare - will it be offered to members of the CC ?, why does XX figure cost so much when invisible Fozzie was only $15 ?. All questions that could have been and maybe should be answered in a 'Collectors Club' FAQ or something. If people had to pay money, they shouldn't ever be in the dark. I'm not saying the club isn't a success or isn't giving the fans what they want, I was just making a point from what i spotted - dis is why i am here ..... well that and i'm a busybody ! :p
  20. beaker

    beaker Well-Known Member

    First off, if you recall there was *no* Colelctors Club...it was through much fan persistence and ballyhooing that we even got one in the first place...so it was setup rather quickly, and they did a great job IMO. Should they have said "prices will vary on various exclusives"? I dont think so. Obviously if youre joing the club youre already a hardcore fan with a few extra pennies to spend.

    This was in resposne to auctioneers raping people's wallets on eBay with their rediculous prices...Palisades just quit the insanity by giving away the Beaker VC and Industry freebie Invisable figure for free to the fans.

    This is a great way to eliminate those snake oil ebay auctioners, and give the fans these con exclusives without breaking the bank.

    Would ya rather have fans paying up the wazoo on ebay for a con exclusive, or a mere $15-$20?


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