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D23 Expo: Muppet news and happenings

Discussion in 'Muppet Headlines' started by theprawncracker, Sep 11, 2009.

  1. MJTaylor

    MJTaylor Well-Known Member

    I for one, really have my hopes up. It sounds good to me!
  2. muppets2

    muppets2 Well-Known Member

    me too
  3. Was Once Ernie

    Was Once Ernie Well-Known Member

    I agree with frogboy. I think the YouTube videos are some of the purest Muppet stuff we've seen in a long time. Not only like Sam & Friends bits, but like the stuff they used to do on the Ed Sullivan Show and other variety shows in their days.

    And I don't care what anybody else says, I liked Letters to Santa. It wasn't the best thing they've ever done, obviously, but I liked it a lot.

  4. theprawncracker

    theprawncracker Well-Known Member

    Agreed on both fronts! People just need to get off of their high horses and realize quality Muppet entertainment when they see it!
  5. Frogpuppeteer

    Frogpuppeteer Well-Known Member

    im with both of you, i really enjoyed letters to santa
  6. ploobis

    ploobis Well-Known Member

    Me and my family LOVED Letters To Santa! And I can't wait to pick up the DVD! :)
  7. Nekoshema

    Nekoshema Well-Known Member

    i wish they found people who could perform frank's characters voices better, it might annoy me watching it, but that was really funny ;)
  8. GonzoLover85

    GonzoLover85 Well-Known Member

  9. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    Negative? that's what I like to call fair weather fandom... and I've seen so much of it here, it makes me physically ill. WAAA WAAAA WAAA! We're never going to have another movie EXACTLY EXACTLY like The Muppet Movie ever... got some news for you... Jim's been gone for 20 years now. Get over it. Saying we should kill all the new products and projects because they don't quite measure up is effectively spitting on his legacy. Sure... we've been through crap before. Guess what? It happens with EVERY entertainment franchise. Heck, the Looney Tunes have had it a million times worse. Loonatics? Baby Looney Tunes? Gender Confused Tweety? The only post Jim Muppet project I think was a total waste was Oz, and that was because it was a miserable idea to begin with.

    Even if he was still around, Hollywood would keep giving him the brush off... NBC pretty much treated the Jim Henson Hour like it was on another network. Even Muppets Tonight got a better chance. We have a very cruddy media landscape out there... reality shows, knock offs of knock offs... There's like... what, like 3 good shows on? I couldn't see a new Muppet show lasting a week before they dump all the episodes on Summer replacement marathons so they can make room for "Who wants to thrwo a rock at Fat people?" or "Who wants to marry an ex-convict on a fake Japanese Gameshow?" It's horrible out there. And what do they do? Create a Muppet website devoted to videos that are the best things I've seen come out of the franchise in years.

    This whining and moaning and groaning is NOTHING but counter productive. All it's gonna do is tell Disney that we're never going to be happy with anything, they'll shove the Muppets in the Disney Vault and keep trotting out some identical looking starlet to lip sync to horrendous music written by 50 year old out of touch white guys that use the word "Bling" every other sentence. I'm sorry, but this is no time to have yet another whine fest. Unless you want another 5+ year blackout like what happened after no one liked Oz.
  10. Frogpuppeteer

    Frogpuppeteer Well-Known Member

    amen brother
  11. RockSTAR girl

    RockSTAR girl Well-Known Member

    Hey guys, I think this is gonna be on the cd that they announced at D23. My friend who is in the recording studio right now just told me that the band "Anarbor" is recording a cover of "You Can't Take No For An Answer". I'm trying to find out if this is for the upcoming "Muppets Revisited" album. I'll let you know. :search:
  12. theprawncracker

    theprawncracker Well-Known Member

    LOVE The Pepe Initiative--SO funny! Pepe is awesome.

    Glad to hear that we may have more info on another track, RokSTAR girl! :D Thanks for keeping us updated!
  13. SarahOnBway

    SarahOnBway Well-Known Member

    Good for you, DrTooth :)

    Sure there are some things the Muppets have done in the Disney era that hasn't pleased everyone, or that hasn't been up to the standard that we like to see. But people should take a moment and remember the horror of the EMTV years. Did anything happen at that time? Anything at all? The Muppets going to German television was like them going to their graves. The Muppets at Disney are definitely alive, if not always perfect.
  14. theprawncracker

    theprawncracker Well-Known Member

    Tough Pigs has found the third missing Muppet parody poster!

  15. Amy

    Amy Well-Known Member

    Seriously. It's DISNEY. They do their thing and they do it bloody well - Disney could sell snow to eskimos. Muppet fans are lucky that Disney are giving them this much attention in terms of new material. They could be content to just shove some Kermit tees into Disney Stores and leave it at that.
    But no, we're getting Tonner Dolls and DVDs and new holiday specials and a movie and sketch videos and Whatnots and a slew of other stuff for all ages.

    The Classic Muppets are not coming back. Some of us working on new content are doing our best to HONOUR that period and respect Jim's legacy. But ours is not the world of retail strategies and franchise synergies and all that Marketing crap. Disney own SO MUCH STUFF and they are choosing to devote a LOT to making new Muppet content and working to endear them to a whole new generation.
  16. Frogpuppeteer

    Frogpuppeteer Well-Known Member

    Amy i gotta say you are an amazing artist and im pretty sure ive faved a few of your things on deviant art
  17. Nekoshema

    Nekoshema Well-Known Member

    hey drtooth,

    true to all you said, Oz was the worst, and yes, things are never gonna be like the original, but people will still complain about it. i know, i complain about the new muppeter's voices all the time, it's not there fault, but people seem to love complaining and being negative, it's probably in humanities nature, i don't know.

    i find, Oz was like the wake up call for them, since the movies seems to be going uphill from what i've seen, it will never be the same as it was with jim and the original muppet cast, but one day, it might be really REALLY close, and people will stop griping, who know?
  18. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    Palisades Action Figure Line... four of the most important words in Muppet merchandising history. And we did get VMX and stuff too... that resurgence from 2002-2004 was a fan's dream come true. I remember just walking to any store and not being able to punt a football without hitting something.

    I struck a nerve with someone who actually WORKS on Muppet stuff. That's when you know you've said something meaningful.

    Really, it was a slow, arduous muddle of unrealized concepts and misfires, but Disney really found that vein they've been looking for since Oz (which I will get into for the third reply). And as much as I hate to say it, Disney seems to be the ONLY entertainment company that knows where it is and what it's doing... look at Warner Bros... they killed off their television animation studios to make up for losses from the hundreds of bad, bombing movies they've been making. If it wasn't for DC heroes being popular, we'd see nothing out of them. And Sony... they didn't even want to put Real Ghostbusters, one of the biggest cartoons of the 1980's on DVD, since they thought it was kiddy stuff... it took Time Life to haggle that one out. Not to mention how Sony keeps redefining "piracy" to an annoying extent (I.e. you can't rip CD's that you BOUGHT and put them on your music player!) to make up for their poor music sales. Really...

    Oz just had so much wrong with it... and I blame Disney only for the fact that it was rushed so they'd have something to show the stock holders. And possibly stunt casting of Ashanti. But we had a bad concept, a bad script, bad chemistry, bad visuals... Only thing I liked was the Quentin Tarrantino cameo. I almost wish they got HIM to direct it. The problem with that, as opposed to LTS was that it was constantly grasping at focus groups. Jaded Family Guy watching 20 year olds? Tweenagers? The actual fans (to the littlest extent).... LTS, say what you will about it being "Kiddy" or "Juevinile" they knew what the Muppets were about there. The pop Culture jokes were at a minimum... it felt like an old special. That's where they should be.
  19. Was Once Ernie

    Was Once Ernie Well-Known Member

    To quote Monty Python: "I'm not dead!"

    This is obviously off-topic, but since you mentioned it here, I'll comment.

    I have a new direct-to-DVD movie in the works that ISN'T DC heroes. I can't say much more than that until it's officially announced, but it's a funny animal franchise that the company owns.

    Also, they are doing a new Looney Tunes series for TV, as well as another new Scooby series.

    So, as you can see, they're not quite dead yet.

  20. theprawncracker

    theprawncracker Well-Known Member

    *eyebrow raise* You have peaked my interest! If it involves two small, white animals you were previously involved with... that is very, VERY exciting!

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