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Fraggle Action Figures WERE possible...

Discussion in 'Fraggle Rock' started by Fozzie Bear, Aug 24, 2004.

  1. Fozzie Bear

    Fozzie Bear Active Member

    Over at Palisades, Ken said he actually had a Gobo prototype figure, but demand was low so the line ended up a no go. I had asked if he, when the entirety of the Muppets line was over, would show us some "what could have been"s as far as Muppets merchandise is concerned and he said sure.

    Wonder if we'll get to see the Gobo action figure then?

    Sure is a shame we won't see these made.

    What's your take on all this?
  2. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    Oooh! Oww! ACK!!! I was wondering what old wound that was. Thanks for opening it up so I could remember, Foz.... :p (just kiddin')

    It is sad, though I don't see why they can't market it like the Ren and Stimpy or Fairly Oddparents line, via comic stores and web sites. Heck. Past series 10 (if it's inclusive or not) you'll have to order Muppet action figures off-a web sites. I'm sure these could be made if they tried hard enough (emphisis on the theoretic title of "Could"), but I'm not holding my breath... though I'm courious as to how they'd've made Doozers and Gorgs in scale....
  3. Fozzie Bear

    Fozzie Bear Active Member

    Well, I think it's like this: Fraggles, maybe 5 or 6" in height for Gobo, would come with a backpack, map, PVC Doozer(s) and something else. Then, at that height, the Gorgs would be in cheated scale--IF they maybe would come with something like small, in-scale PVC Fraggles.

    I hate knowing that one day I won't be able to be nitpicky with my Muppets figures when I go to buy them. :(
  4. I asked Ken if the Fraggle line is still a possability and he said his famous "AIP" but if you look back at it almost every time he said "AIP" it has been made! My opiniun is that, I think that Fraggle Rock would do better at retail than Ren and Stimpy and Pink Panther! They could also sell them at hot topic! The Fraggle Plushes are flying off the shelves!
    Ty
  5. Fozzie Bear

    Fozzie Bear Active Member

    Yeah. I think the lack of Fraggle Merchandise is what will make it a popular product, especially well-made Palisades action figures.

    That company, and the attention they give to the details and their customers, is so amazing to me!

    But, yeah, they could really market the heck out of the figures, especially since there are DVDs on the way!! One thing is that there is nothing happening in the Muppet World right now EXCEPT for the action figures. Can't you just imagine the liklihood of sales had there been a new Muppets movie, or TV show??
  6. Sir Didymus

    Sir Didymus New Member

    I think it would be so cool if they made a playset of the Gorgs castle!!

    Or if they made a Trash Heap playset!!!

    That would be great!

    didymus
  7. Fozzie Bear

    Fozzie Bear Active Member

    Trash Heap could be on a base with poseable (though tiny) Philo and Gunge, and the Heap herself could be printed on cloth so when you shift a lever in the back, she rises from below, or sinks into herself.
  8. WiGgY

    WiGgY New Member

    Retailer interest bites though. They don't want them. Stupid retailers.

    The Gorgs would HAVE to be cheated. An inscale Gorg would be bigger than a person. The little fraggles they used with the Gorg suits on the show are actually smaller then an action figure. I would like to see Gorgs with tiny little Fraggle PVCs though, but even that couldn't be exactly in scale because of the size of the gorgs.

    As for scale with the muppet figures, I would think they would all be about the same size as Kermit. A Fraggle is knee high to a human and KErmit is about knee high to a human. Fraggles might be a bit bigger, or at least wider and thicker.

    Dozers would probably be Polly sized. Polly the Lobster that is. He is the smallest muppet figure to date.
  9. floydnjanicefan

    floydnjanicefan Active Member

    I think that I would want the Fraggle figures to be in between the height of Rizzo and Pepe, with the Doozers as PVC's about the height of the Muppet Veggies. Sprocket I would like to see as Kermit's height, the trash heap about Scooter's height, Philo and Gunge about the size of the lobster banditos, and the Gorgs about Sweetums height with PVC fraggles (one of each of the main Fraggles)
  10. The Count

    The Count Moderator Staff Member

    Got a few thoughts on this. Stood my S1 Kermit next to my S5 Gonzo next to my S4 Rizzo, and here's what I think.
    Gobo and Red about the same height of Kermit, especially since that's what Ken said of the Gobo prototype painted sculpt he has in the office.
    Mokey, slightly higher/taller than Kermit.
    Wembley and Boober: Boober with magnetic lucky hat slightly taller than Rizzo, and Wembley slightly taller so as to reach the same height as the arc of Gonzo's nose. Or Boober would be just as high as the tip of Gonzo's arching nose, and Wembley would be just as high as the point where Gonzo's nose is placed or where it starts coming out of his face.
    Cantus could be as high as Piggy, and the Doozers could be articulated PVC figurines.
    The Gorgs could all be cheated to be either the same height as Sweetums or slightly taller or shorter depending on the character.
    Sprocket would have to be as tall as Swedish Chef with his hat on and laterally wide, probably placed with his feet up or down in the plastic bubble.
    Philo and Gunge could be the length of the Lobster Bandidos, and then the Trash Heap could be fully-formed or emerged from the ground base she'd come with. The Trash Heap would probably end up one of the bigger figures, on a par with Dr. Phil van Neuter from S8 and/or Bobo the Bear Guard when/if he gets made.
    Hope this helps and have a good day.
  11. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    Well, Pink panther hits retail, but Ren and Stimpy gets the Specialty Market (as does Invaider Zim, and for contractual purpoused Fairly Oddparents). That's kinda what I'm hopin' for.

    It's a sad irony. All the retailors that didn't want the line dropped the TMS line after 2-3 series....

    I think it's still a rights issue. I think they lost the rights and can't do them until they get to talk back with Henson or HIT...
  12. Fozzie Bear

    Fozzie Bear Active Member

    Here's what's considered an actual comparison, although I think it's incorrect.
    http://membres.lycos.fr/foufli/fraggle.html (Scan to the bottom)

    The reason I think it's incorrect is because the size of a fraggle would be that the head and feet stick out of a Gorg's hand, and the size of the hand in this picture as compared to the size of the Fraggle is WAY off...the Fraggle is too small, and is actually the size of an average man's distance from knee to the floor. So, if a Gorg grabbed a man, his foot and knee would still be somewhat visible.

    I think the Gorg in this picture is just too big. I would suggest that the Gorg be reduced to about 13-15 feet tall.

    At any rate, if the action figure were the same size as Kermit, then a Gorg would be as big as us, and I'm 5'10".
  13. floydnjanicefan

    floydnjanicefan Active Member

    I think that the Gorg in that scale seems to be a little bit off. I would just rather have small Gorgs that come with fraggle PVCs to keep the figures from getting too large...
  14. WiGgY

    WiGgY New Member

    Gorg looks fine to me. The gorgs were definatly more than 13-15 feet tall.

    It seems that raggle size changed as the show went on. At one point a ball rolls into the fraggle hole and a larger ball is used with the fraggles. But in the last episodes when Gobo meets Doc he's bigger than you would expect. And of course we see that Gobo is slightly larger than KErmit in Muppet Family Christmas. So, Fragle size changes all the time. I think the best thing to do would be to start with real scale between the muppets and fraggles and then make the gorgs anyway that can be done since there is no way to get any true scale with them.
  15. Fozzie Bear

    Fozzie Bear Active Member

    I agree, some 10" Gorgs with PVC Fraggles that fit in their hands would be great:
    Pa Gorg Red, Boober
    Ma Gorg Gobo, Uncle Matt
    Jr Gorg Wembley, Mokey

    Isn't speculation fun?

    Besides the main Fraggle Five and Uncle Matt, Storyteller Fraggle, Oldest Fraggle in the World, and Cantus and the Minstrels would be great to have, too.
  16. If the figures were made, my scale would say, "as tall as/eye level" if you line up you figures and imagine the size with those characters, it fits perfect!
    Gobo: Crazy Harry
    Mokey: Fozzie
    Wembley: S5 Gonzo
    Boober: Pepe
    Red: Lew Zealand
    Uncle Matt: Bunsen
    Trash Heap/Philo and Gunge: Phil/Lobsters
    Sprocket: Eye level with Rowlf/as long as Clifford is tall!
    Ma/Pa Gorg: Mega Gonzo (not in scale, but practical)
    Jr. Gorg: Mega Animal
    Lamford: Robin

    What kind of clay would it take to make these? I want to do it now! And what kind of paint!
    Ty
  17. WiGgY

    WiGgY New Member

    Your scale is kind of off there.

    If you want to make them use sculpey.
  18. What part of the scale is off? If your one of those people that think the Fraggles are 2 inches tall you are wrong! It has never been said that fraggles are that small. Yes they are as big as a radish but its a gorg Radish, not a human Radish! Also on my scale i lined up the eyes not the eyes with the top of the head!
    Ty
  19. Phillip

    Phillip Administrator Staff Member

    Tyler,

    I answered your e-mail this morning, but also wanted to post the info here.

    This Fraggle/Doozer/Gorg height chart should help...

    http://www.geocities.com/~fraggle-rock/heights.html

    Fraggles only appear several inches tall in comparison to the Gorgs who are 22 feet tall. They are much bigger (approximately 18-24 inches) when compared to a 6 foot human.
  20. Fozzie Bear

    Fozzie Bear Active Member

    Thanks, Phil. I posted that link before, too.

    Ever'body else:
    Seems that in the show the Fraggles' head and feet stuck out from the Gorgs' hands, and according to this chart, the Fraggle would be stuck in the hand not even seen. Based on what I saw on the show, the Fraggles should be as high as a grown man's knee, and the Gorg's hand should fit around the lower part of a leg with the foot and knee cap still visible. Watch the show and see what you all think. I think the scales on that chart are a little off.


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