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I Think my Head's Been in the Clouds too Long...

Discussion in 'Friends and Family' started by D'Snowth, Oct 6, 2011.

  1. CensoredAlso

    CensoredAlso Well-Known Member

    I know how that feels, have you sent the video links around to different sites? (Blogs, etc)
  2. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    Not really, mainly because I've learned my lesson when it comes to self-promotion like that... people see you coming off as shameless and desperate for attention, and actually turns people AWAY rather than turn people to, so I just don't.

    I DO go a little overboard with the tags and such in the videos in hopes that the most insignificant thing featured in the videos will garner people's attention, lol, I know quite a few people do that.
    newsmanfan likes this.
  3. Gonzo's Hobbit

    Gonzo's Hobbit Well-Known Member

    Someone once told me that that was the best way to get people to watch your videos.
  4. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    I've even considered adding some naughty tags to the videos as well (I've seen people do it before)... but I don't think I'm THAT desperate, :laugh:.
  5. CensoredAlso

    CensoredAlso Well-Known Member

    Well there's an art to it. You have to give something to them first, compliment their stuff, participate in their community first and then you could promote your own stuff.

    I don't know about YouTube but I know on WordPress they say that LESS tags are better.
  6. Frogpuppeteer

    Frogpuppeteer Well-Known Member

    im guilty of it...any tag that can reach a wider audience ive put at times, but even still i agree to push yourself to people even if it comes off as a shameless plug because everyone does it, even me. im always constanly bothering other people to check out my stuff and even if one doesnt go i get a few that do

    also something i suggest doing is emailing youtube partners ive become decent friends with a few..one ive helped on her videos more than once and she featured me on one of her songs...im currently working on another for a second partner
  7. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    Eh, most YouTube partners are so up themselves though... even Mike Mozart seems more wrapped up in himself these days, just about everybody is begging him to stop whatever it is he keeps doing these days (seems like podcasts with randomass people and such) and do more toy reviews... and it HAS been a while since he's done decent toy reviews, seems like he's only doing toy reviews at Halloween and Christmas anymore.
  8. Frogpuppeteer

    Frogpuppeteer Well-Known Member

    i stopped watching him a while ago his first reviews where cool and clever then he just got weird
  9. beaker

    beaker Well-Known Member

    You sound JUST like me. Back in 2002-2005, I used to shamelessly promote this webcomic I did, even going so far as to spend hundreds on online advertising. While I soon was getting a sustained 10,000-12,000 people a day checking it out, I just felt burned out after a year and kind of squandered the opportunity.

    Now pretty much I just go with the "if you build it they will come" notion...all it takes is one semi popular blog to mention you, or linkage from other ways and the rest comes. I do pass out flyers at conventions and such, but I just don't want to be seen as a shameless promoter anymore. Oh gosh, I pretty much fill each of my videos and ads with a zillion metatags.
  10. beaker

    beaker Well-Known Member

    Well I think only if it actually applies. In my cartoon I spoof Friendship Is Magic, Angry Birds, Dubstep, DDR, and a zillion other popular phenomenons and then tag those. But I learned a lot of lessons from years past from good and bad online promotion, and the main thing is consistency. A lot of the popular youtube channels only got popular from having a lot of content, and the success came after awhile(Angry Nerd, Mr Weebl, Harry Partridge, Egoraptor, Phil Defranco, etc)
  11. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    Well, I'm pretty satisfied that the new video I shot turned out to be somewhat successful, sort of... I think, with my perfectionism and whatnot, that it COULD'VE been just a little better, but considering I wasn't able to work withany kind of monitor to help me out, I think it turned out pretty good.
  12. Gonzo's Hobbit

    Gonzo's Hobbit Well-Known Member

    Is there a place we can see it?
  13. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    YouTube. :p
  14. Bill Bubble Guy

    Bill Bubble Guy Well-Known Member

    Snowthy please don't throw in the towel altogether. Keep trying my friend. Success doesn't come easy.

    Michelle and I are going to go online sometime soon together, tomorrow or the next day, and I promise we will look at your Youtube channel and post our thoughts on your videos here for your encouragement. Steve and you both deserve a sporting chance. :)
    Fragglemuppet likes this.
  15. Bill Bubble Guy

    Bill Bubble Guy Well-Known Member

    Michelle had a sore eye yesterday but she tells me it's feeling better today. It was probably just her allergies playing up.

    She wants to look at your videos soon now Snowth. :D
  16. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    That'll be fine.

    I'm thinking about possibly doing some new holiday-themed videos this year for Halloween and Christmas, but I haven't really made up my mind about those yet.
  17. newsmanfan

    newsmanfan Well-Known Member

    Do it. Themed stuff can potentially grab more first-time viewers who'll then get hooked!

  18. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    Well, I don't know what happened, but I think I'm basically reliving Steve Martin's very early days... I'm gettin' nothin'. Three new videos within a week's worth of time, and they've practically been ignored... back in the old days, I'd have at least a handful of comments, favorites, views within the first 24 hours, but now, I'm lucky if I reach the 20 view mark in a week, and get at least one standard "very funny" or "very cool" or "very interesting" comment.

    Plus, I'm really upset that the Christmas "special" I had planned didn't work out, I was really looking forward to putting it all together, it was different from most of what I've shot before, but it just didn't work out... talk about a waste of foam, felt, and fleece:


    Likewise, I now have an idea for an Easter video this year, but I know it wouldn't work out either, because it's too much of a hassle and too elaborate as well.

    I admit as I do these videos, I realize each time that this is what I enjoy doing and wish I could keep doing this, but again... it's all just come crumbling down. I was hoping I could at least be on the verge to success by at least 2012, well here it is, 2012, and I still haven't accomplished much of what I set out to do well before now... Jim would be so disappointed in me... not trying to follow in his footsteps (which I'm honestly not, I'm doing my own thing), but for not doing a good job at keeping the art of puppetry alive with my own contributions, and for being a pretty lousy producer.
  19. Sgt Floyd

    Sgt Floyd Well-Known Member

    If it makes you feel any better I am subscribed to you on youtube and I watch your videos. You are very entertaining and it is a shame that not many people have found you. Maybe I'm not much of a support, but I thin you should keep doing what you love. Yes, it would be nice to have people appreciate you, but isn't doing what you love really all that matters?
  20. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    It would be very nice if that's really all that did matter, but unfortunately, recognition is a necessary evil, especially in this industry, and especially by today's standards, like I've said many times before, that's the scary thing about networks today, if it seems like nobody's watching, you're gone after just a couple of episodes...
    and again, it IS a little discouraging and disheartening that public reaction to these videos has dwindled to practically nothing compared to the old days when I had like 50-100 views and 5-10 comments within the first day of upload.

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