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Discussion in 'Muppet Merchandise' started by Beauregard, Sep 11, 2006.

  1. Marky

    Marky Well-Known Member

    Got it for my birthday from my son. It takes some getting used to, but once you've locked yourself in the proper mind set, you can easily drift through it.
  2. BradFraggle

    BradFraggle Well-Known Member


    I'll second that statement. I was going to write my thoughts, but they are pretty much the same.

    This book is great. Go buy this book! :crazy:
  3. BEAR

    BEAR Well-Known Member

    I just got this book for my birthday and it is beautiful. I've already read a little bit and it's so good. Was happy to see a section dedicated to Sesame Street in there. This book is silly and funny, but also touching, poigniant and wise.
  4. Barry Lee

    Barry Lee Well-Known Member

    Woooow. I just finished this, its truelly great. It really made me mushy gushy, ((haha)) but its truelly wonderful little book.
  5. a_Mickey_Muppet

    a_Mickey_Muppet Well-Known Member

    I know i got this book for christmas... :D and besides i know couse the other day i got the mail and the pakage was from B&N.com :halo:
  6. minor muppetz

    minor muppetz Well-Known Member

    I got this book for christmas, and it's great. The autobiography section has a good mix of facts and fiction (an autobiography of a fictional character puts a limit on true behind-the-scenes facts). I can't decide which I like better, the autobiography part or the self-mprovement part. If this was an autobiography by a real person (especially a Muppet performer) I would have been upset that this book spends more chapters on self-improvement than on the works of that person.

    I like many of the pictures that were used, especially the one with the cast outside of the Muppet theater. The picture of Big Bird looks like it was a still from his cameo in The Muppet Movie, with the background removed. Was it? There are a lot of cool pictures that I don't ever remember seeing before, but most of those pictures looked to me like they were taken in the 1970s or 1980s. I noticed that this book has three pictures of Kermit riding abicycle.

    Some of my favortie things about the book, as well as some nitpicks:

    *I liked the part in his biography sectionwhere Kermit mentions the names of many different Muppet characters, including minor characters who haven't been used in alongtime (I hope this is a sign that they'll return soon). It mentioned characters such as Louis Kazagger (misspelling his name as Louis Cazagger), Fleet Scribbler (who the original writers hated), Fletcherbird, and Betsy Bird (the only one-shot character mentioned here).

    *It seems like when talking about his first few movies, Kermit mostly just talks about the titles as opposed to the movies themselves. He listed titles that he and his friends wanted for The Muppet Movie, then says that for The Great Muppet Caper that he wanted to do a movie that had the words "Muppet" and "Great" in the title without being sued for false advertising, and says that The Muppets Take Manhattan was originally going to be called The Muppets Take a Trip to Manhattan before the marquee hangers unionmade them shorten the title. And when talking about movies he does not mention any move released after Muppet Treasure Island (I would have thought that Kermit would have acknowledged Kermit's Swamp Years, since that is about his youth).

    *I like how he manages to mention Jim Henson and other performers, and it's interesting that his current performer, Steve Whitmire, is mentioned last.

    *Two of Kermit's Sesame Street songs, Tadpole and This Frog, are quoted.

    *Eventually, Kermit says that he returned to prime time with Muppets Tonight. That's nice, but he didn't mention The Jim Henson Hour (or Muppet Babies, but that's not a prime-time series). And when talking about his new friends from Mupepts Tonight, he didn't mention that Clifford was the host (yes, Clifford debuted in JHH, but he still could have been mentioned).

    *I looked inthe copyright section, and it says "Throughout this book, trademarked name are used, but instead of putting a trademark symbol after every occurance of a trademark name, they are being used here as an editorial fashion". I wonder about this. There are a lot of books that use trademarked names (especially guides on movies, videos, and TV shows), but those don't include such notes in the books credits, and I don't normally see trademark symbols next to copyrighted names in book text.
  7. CensoredAlso

    CensoredAlso Well-Known Member

    I don't know, I don't want to be a kill-joy. But if this was say, 10 years ago, I would have been thrilled with the idea of Kermit's autobiography. But now I'm a little more cautious. I really don't like the recent Piggy jokes. It's a shame that nearly every performer gets mentioned but Richard. That seems to happen a lot in the more modern Muppet publications.

    But I'll try to at least look at the book in the store, just to give it a chance. It's definitely a cute idea. :)

    Btw, I know Kermit technically wrote the book, but who "ghost wrote" it, if you get my meaning?
  8. Messy Piggy

    Messy Piggy New Member

    Got if for Christmas! Can't wait to dive in.

    The title threw me a little (Look Before You Leap) since I'm getting married in a few months! My mom said she wasn't trying to tell me anything and that she does approve of the marriage. (Speaking of, does anybody have sheet music for TMTManhattan wedding?)

    I'll post mine in a couple days, but what's everyone's favorite line/qoute from the book?
  9. Skye

    Skye Well-Known Member

    I know what you mean. Normally, I probably wouldn't have decided to read it, but since I got it as a gift, I might as well. I gotta say... I am a little intrigued by it! :)

    I'm also curious about who "ghost wrote" it...
  10. CensoredAlso

    CensoredAlso Well-Known Member

    I get you, Skye, if I had gotten it as a gift, it would definitely be easier to make the decision to read it! I would be interested in your thoughts once you've had the chance. :)
  11. Super Scooter

    Super Scooter Well-Known Member

    Jim Lewis. (actually figured it out before reading GelflingWaldo's post) He's been writing for the Muppets for years.

    I do agree there are a few too many Pig jokes, but I think Kermit kind of makes up for it. Other than that, the book is possibly the finest piece of Muppet merchandise available. I love it!

    (Beau, a while back you mentioned something about it centering alot around Piggy, Fozzie, Gonzo, Pepe... but there are ALOT of references to other Muppets. Kermit goes into a bit of detail over Lew Zeland, there's plenty from Floyd, Bunsen, Beaker, Statler, and Waldorf... some from Rowlf, but not a whole lot from Scooter. :smirk: Oh, well. I'm not done with it yet. Maybe.)
  12. Skye

    Skye Well-Known Member

    You got it! :D Not a problem at all! :)

    Awesome. Thanks!! :)
  13. travellingpat

    travellingpat Well-Known Member

    Got it for christmas...finished it 2 hours later....awesome book! great job jim lewis!
  14. abiraniriba

    abiraniriba Well-Known Member

    great book

    Read Look Before You Leap liked it, can't talk about it much now though, Johnathan is teething. Can you beliee he'll be 5 months in Jan.
  15. minor muppetz

    minor muppetz Well-Known Member

    I didn't notice that he wasn't mentioned in this book. I think he's the only performer from all 5 seasons of The Muppet Show who doesn't get mentioned.

    It is a shame that he doesn't get mentioned more in recent publications. However, he was mentioned in both Caroll Spinney and Kevin Clash's autobiographies, and he was mentioned in Sesame Street Unpaved (though he didn't get an autobiography). He was also mentioned in the booklet for The Muppet Show 25th anniversary album. He wasn't mentioned in the making of Muppets From Space book, though it is more acceptable since he obviously didn't perform in that movie (Jim Henson was mentioned, but he created the Muppets).

    RKUNKLER Well-Known Member

    I read the book and i love it. Everything is great. my favorite photo is of the Muppets behind the Muppet Theater. Its a nice new photo. I could tell its new because it uses the same pictures as last years muppets calendar and one of them is Rizzo. Its the one hanging out of the garbage can. Rizzo is also in the alley next to the stairs and garbage can. I like that Disney used alot of the older muppets like Luncheon counter monster and boppitty. This also proves that Disney has plans for a new Muppet show in my mind. Plus if they wanted it to look like it came from The Muppet Show they should have least had no Rizzo as he wasnt around till The Muppets take Manhattan.
  17. travellingpat

    travellingpat Well-Known Member

    I dont think that picture behind the theater is new...i remember seeing it in a book made in the 80s....i just think they dont use it often
  18. CensoredAlso

    CensoredAlso Well-Known Member

    Ok, I borrowed the book from the library to check it out. The tone is very 'modern' Kermit and I guess we just don't have the same sense of humor! Plus the book automatically gets 5 points off for not mentioning Richard. But yeah, I'm glad Carol Spinney and Kevin Clash's books mention him. I'm definitely be grateful for that. ;)

    For the positives, I liked most of the pictures, there were a lot I'd never seen before. And some of the self help section was very interesting and useful.
  19. MrsPepper

    MrsPepper Well-Known Member

    I just got it for christmas. What I've read so far, I love it! Very cute.
  20. BearWithMe

    BearWithMe Member

    Forgive me

    Yeah, I ghosted it, though I prefer to think of it as channelling the frog. And yes you are right, there are too many pig jokes. (One loses track, then one regrets. Promise it won't happen again.) And my sincere apologies for omitting Richard. It was an inexplicable oversight. I still miss his wicked whimsy. That said, thanks for all the good words. Hope lots more to come.

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