to the Muppet Central Forum!
are viewing our forum as a guest. Join
our free community to post topics and start private conversations. Please
contact us if
you need help with registration or your account login.
From Miss Piggy
and Josh Groban to Fozzie and Jay Leno,
discuss all aspects of "The
Muppets on Dancing with the Stars
night don't miss The Muppets return to "Dancing with the Stars" on
ABC beginning at 7 central, 8 eastern.
Their Own Words: Jim Henson
Discuss one of the
best Jim Henson documentaires ever. Featuring new interviews from the
Henson Family, Frank Oz, Dave Goelz, Carroll Spinney, Fran Brill and
more. Miss the show? Order
Discussion in 'Muppet Replicas' started by MuppetCaper, Nov 2, 2007.
I hope Fozzie's fur doesn't become an issue with people!
I'm totally glad it was made and although I don't have one (and I wish it was 100% accurate), I think it's better than nothing!
Just my point of view - now bring on that 100% accurate Fozzie.
I believe we all have mixed feelings. I am happy that I got him, and that's my opinion. If they would did something different, yes I still would have got him. THere was a lot of work put into this little guy, you can tell. So now, I am really ready for Fozzie. I cannot wait to see him again.
Some people just expect too much in life I guess. I have been a Muppet fan since I was old enough to watch TV and have been a Henson fan since the age of 8 (I am now 28). From the pics Gonzo looks good enough for me to want to own one. That's it. If people don't like it they don't have to buy but there really is no reason for them to put the replica and anyone who choses to buy it down again and again and again and at every opportunity. Just seems stupid to me.
I don't think the fur will be an issue - that was only an issue on the prototype and it doesn't relate at all to what they use at the factory.
Only one person said they would have preferred Gonzo wasn't made - i think we needed a Gonzo at some point. I'm sure everybody would love the main 5 complete but the dilema is the way things have gone and the way the factories are obviously having a lot of difficulty making these it might be better for them to focus on the ones that are easier to do than people saying they must have x and x character. I'd rather have a 95+% Beaker or Rizzo than another 80% Muppet that they couldn't do right and the factory struggles with. If they do that in the long run the line could run on and on, and the factories get better and better and so will the replicas.
I know it isn't so much up to the factories on this decision. I know that the engineers at the MR company has to figure out what goes and what works. The factories only mass produce whatever MR wants them to make once they say that the final factory prototype is ok'd.
The problem with that though is that the average chinese factory worker on a low pay is not going to be as skilled as the MR engineer so it takes them time to learn the process of assembling them and getting it right. The more experienced they get at following MR's directions the more accurate the end result. This may explain the problems with Animals mouth closing and the way the eyelids are not being covered with fur properly - what probably worked when they took time to do it at Master Replicas did not work at the factory once they were being mass produced.
It's exactly the same as with the Muppet figures, they ended up going through loads of factories and each time it took them a while to get into the swing of things - some of the later produced figures were the best.
By the way, thanks Caper. My pupil material came today and I now have a much better Gonzo. I'll post pictures soon. I especially like how there's some "give" to the adhesive so the dot can be tweaked after placement. I'm still "zen"-ing where they should end up.
Also working on painting the lid shells and green stripe. I migh go through and change the color a little. It is very green.
I think future Master Replicas posers should have pupils with some "give" to them so they can be tweaked by the owner. Either way, for next to nothing by way of money I have enough pupil material for an entire Muppet Movie ending group shot number of Muppets! Thanks again!
I do remember Brian saying something about there workers in China how they have the best people to produce there stuff. Someone was concerned about them getting paid little for all this work on a Q&A day. He said that they have nothing but the best and rest assure that they get paid good. So maybe it isn't all that bad. Who knows.
Just to be clear, I never put down anyone that bought it. If you go back through my messages, you'll see that I said I'm glad that people are happy with him and I hope MR sells a whole bunch of them.
Great, I cannot wait to see how they came out. I will be working on Gonzo's bottom lip and color it the pink that it should be this weekend. I also got to finish my Animals collar that I am making from scratch sometime as well.....if I had the time. How easy was it to take off Gonzo's old pupils?
I do also like this material as well. I am glad that it does give a little for placement. I was kinda wondering about that myself. Glad to help out!
I just hope Fozzie's fur isn't too long because God forbid!
1000 Muppet fans equipped with rotary shavers? Yeah, scary!
(being serious, even if it was a bit long, i doubt it'd be much of an issue. I think the only thing with Fozzie is that he'll be stuffed to the right level and not look too fat.)
Posted this image in the other thread. I am still tweaking the pupils, but I did Animal also! I also painted the lid shells on Gonzo and will lighten the green lid lip a little too - eventually. Had to paint the shell first to make pupil placement more accurate.
I encourage anyone who has these posers and are unhappy with the eye focus to use this adhesive material, scissors and a circular stencil set to make this fix. I am happy I did. Thanks again MuppetCaper. With that and the collar you recommended you are two for two!
Reminds me of the E.T. Atari game...
Anyway, even after all the pics, all the reviews, good and bad, I'm still undecided. It looks sorta okay and I wouldn't mind having one if I could fix it.
I'm going to see how much my tax refund check is, then (maybe) get one. As I've said before, right now I'm making student loan payments so no Gonzo for me now. For those of you who are still in school, here's what it's like after you graduate and the student loan company contacts you each month.
You know something? I wish I could buy a Gonzo replica...and I know exactly which one I want. I want the one Terry Angus made. Now THAT'S a replica! I wonder where it went...
As far as i know they get cut up in the factory so they can seperate him into parts they can copy and assemble back together.
NO DISSASEMBLE JOHNNY 5 !
Perhaps we could aquire it and sew it back together and call it Gonzostien?
Now that Gonzo has become available, we're moving the Gonzo Replica discussion here.
Separate names with a comma.