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Master Replicas Gonzo Photo Puppet

Discussion in 'Muppet Replicas' started by MuppetCaper, Nov 2, 2007.

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  1. MuppetCaper

    MuppetCaper Well-Known Member

    I am not really happy with UPS right now. They lost my package for the flocked paper I ordered and now have to get them to chase it down, or they owe me money!
  2. Was Once Ernie

    Was Once Ernie Well-Known Member

    Who is doing your alteration? I might even consider getting one if someone could "fix" him.

    If you'd rather not share with the group, you could PM me.


  3. muppetperson

    muppetperson Well-Known Member

    Postage was US$87.50 but you can find a slightly better deal on ebay.
  4. muppetperson

    muppetperson Well-Known Member

    Nepean Flocking is going to do it. www.nepeanflock.com.au
    but there would be flockers in the States.You probably wouldnt
    like that because you want the porus foam look, which would require the head to be built again as not only his nose wants replacing but his mouth as well.Flocking is the best alternative for me.I will post a pic of the results when it is done.
  5. Was Once Ernie

    Was Once Ernie Well-Known Member

    Thanks for the info and you're right. I thought maybe you were having his nose and mouth rebuilt out of foam. I'll still pass on this one.

    I'm not sure I really understand the attitude of most of the folks on here. "Oh, well, it's the best we'll ever get." "Oh, well, it's good enough." As Travis himself said, you vote with your wallet. If you're willing to accept anything less than at least how good Kermit and Animal are, you're showing the company that they don't have to be as picky because you'll just buy them anyway.

    I may be the only one on this board, but I won't buy something just because it exists. I think you have to have standards or the standards will be lowered for everyone.

  6. MuppetCaper

    MuppetCaper Well-Known Member

    People are not just buying these cause they exist. They are appreciating him for what at least he is. He is not considered 100% accurate, he is only 80%. The only thing that is really stopping him the most is his nose. His body is still part of the replica part with the patterns they used. Would you throw your child away cause he was missing some fingers. Or give him up cause he looked a little different that what you expect? No! Maybe your standards are just too high. Maybe we are the ones that don't see that much of a problem. I opened th box and I smiled and I thought it looked pretty good. Everything is there and he does still look like Gonzo.
  7. Luke

    Luke Well-Known Member

    Firstly, comparing these luxury items to a living disabled child is so wrong and way over the top, there is no comparison for all manner of reasons. Not sure what you were thinking there.

    Muppet fans SHOULD expect the highest standards, and feel free to comment openly - just because it's Muppets doesn't mean we should just accept anything. Often the fans influence the products for the better (like with early Palisades) and can point out things the Disney approval people couldn't hope to. That said, its not like they have done a terrible job with Gonzo and some people are prepared to accept the end result, some won't. It doesn't pay to just be a cheerleader for everything though or "spin" opinions as it doesn't give the company an accurate idea of what the collectors want, and we could just end up with sub-standard merchandise that nobody else outside the hardcore collectors would buy anyway. End result - the line would get cancelled and 1000 Gonzo's end up in a landfill somewhere.

  8. Was Once Ernie

    Was Once Ernie Well-Known Member

    You are completely making my argument. We shouldn't be settling for anything less than 95%. And instead of "it looked pretty good", we should be opening the box and thinking, "this looks amazing, incredible, unbelievable, stupendous, magnificent, beyond words, takes my breath away, etc. etc."

  9. lithiumbrain

    lithiumbrain Well-Known Member

    Yeah...I held off on any final opinions of Gonzo until some detailed pics were posted. My conclusion is he is NOT worth the price, so I cancelled my pre-order. Most of these fans know that this is the best thing they will ever get so they are happy. I think that's great. But myself being an artist, I am way too picky to spend 300 bucks on something I am not flipping out over. Although Kermit and Animal had their share of minor flaws, they are still great! Gonzo falls way short in my opinion. It's not just the foam issue. His mouth is not shaped right and his eyes are to far apart. His body and fur are nice. If I knew it was possible and I could find one on ebay for 2 bills, I might consider ripping the fur off the head and re building the face with scott foam and new eyes etc...That would be a pricey experiment if it didn't work out though. :crazy:
  10. the80sdrummer

    the80sdrummer Well-Known Member

    I cancelled my order as well. I just thought it was too much money through MR. Lucky for me, and the rest of us here, someone posted that disneyshopping.com was selling them cheaper than the MR site. In addition to that, there was a coupon code I used. After all was said and done, he came to about $188. I GLADLY forked that over. He should be here in a week or two. Here is his direct link... http://disneyshopping.go.com/webapp...ogId=10002&productId=1222589&categoryId=14761

    Yoy will have to do a little foot-work to find the coupon code. It's here in this thread somewhere. I can't remember what it was. Hope this helps!
  11. the80sdrummer

    the80sdrummer Well-Known Member

    Found the code. Hope it still works...

    they were offering 30% off (Code: BONUS) and $5 shipping (Code: SHIPFOR5).
  12. Davina

    Davina Well-Known Member

    yes.. those deals are nice.. unless you live somewhere like Alaska... heh...
    we almost NEVER get discounted shipping on anything...
    if we're lucky, we can get a company to use postal instead of FedEx or UPS or such... "can't ship ground, only air" with those... which means it's over night, so highest possible shipping rates.... *sigh*
    even though Anchorage is a MAJOR hub for both companies and I'm pretty sure there are roads through Canada, and they ship there too... do the Canadians here have to deal with that sort of mess too? I know the US government has Alaska and Hawaii tabbed as third world countries when it comes to shipping regulations... *sigh*
  13. chequepoint

    chequepoint Active Member

    You're not the only one. There was half a second when I thought.. well maybe.. and then I saw the group shot.. and realized that not only does gonzo look like my giant pez dispensing gonzo, putting him next to kermit and animal shatters the illusion that these are real.

    Still, I've found its best not to argue with the members of this board who are clearly drinking the master replicas kool aide. You'll never get anywhere, they'd be happy with anything that was offered for sale, and defend their purchases to the end.

    Love travis, love master replicas, love my first two, can't wait to buy fozzie. At the end of the day I feel that gonzo should not have been made, I currently feel the same way about piggy. So its no harm to me not having them, I'd rather they didn't exist at all. There is no such thing as an 80% replica. Anything below 95% enters toy territory.
  14. frogboy4

    frogboy4 Inactive Member

    I really like my Gonzo. Didn't think I would.

    I don't simply like Gonzo because it's "the best they could do" I like him in spite of his flawed nose netting. He's pretty sweet once you get him. Yeah, I'm not keen on the method chosen, but even so I don't feel like I'm "settling".
  15. MuppetCaper

    MuppetCaper Well-Known Member

    No one iis defending there purchase to the end. I just think it gets REALLY petty. Personally I am speaking. It is each to there own so you cannot throw that. I may not be a die hard Muppet person like most of you, and I know others who aren't as well. Only the die hard fans would pick out every detail, every wrinkle, every color etc. on these. I bought him cause I like Gonzo....big woop! I didn't buy him cause he was just up for sale. I think Travis said enough on this, and I know how he feels. Glad it wasn't me that had to face this mess when Gonzo came out.
  16. Luke

    Luke Well-Known Member

    Hang on a minute, remember these are supposed to be REPLICAS? I'm not sure you are grasping the concept of these. It's what the original mission from Master Replicas was - to create ACCURATE REPLICAS of the ORIGINAL PUPPETS USING THE SAME PUPPETS AND SIMILAR MATERIALS. I don't dispute that some people are happy with their Gonzo and he does look a lot of fun but clearly this did not happen this time. The explanations been given, it looks like this hopefully won't be allowed to happen again, but you cannot pick at ANYONE for being petty when they are picky about every detail, wrinkle when these are being sold to them as REPLICAS. Hardly anyone aside from a hardcore Muppet fan is gonna pay $400 for a Muppet poser so you aren't going to find enough people to buy these at that price who aren't going to be picky about them.

    I kinda agree with chequepoint on Miss Piggy too. I think its a very risky one for them to do, she would have to be perfect to have any chance because Piggy is a weak seller anyway - but it would be very hard for them to mass produce a perfect Piggy. I would much rather they did a Rizzo first, and spend a lot of R&D time on Piggy because there is a chance she could be another Gonzo and i wouldn't want to see her kill the line. Fozzie will probably build a lot of momentum and new people into the line, and there is a chance of lots of other cool characters that they could nail much easier and continue this line way longer. The group looks fine without her, it wouldn't bother me if they axed her completely. To me it is about quality (as Blinky was saying), its not about the price or how well known the character is.
  17. mrsieve

    mrsieve Well-Known Member

    We do, plus the lovely Duty tax! Plus trying to find an authorized MR dealer in Canada is next to impossible. So free shipping on the MR site means, bend over and get ready to pay (excuse my French). And when the courier company comes, get ready to hand over that credit card (gotta love that...no worries about cc fraud or id fraud whats so ever!) to pay for the import/duty tax, broker fee, a fee to use a blue pen on a Thursday, etc.

    Shipping is the only reason right now that I haven't gotten Animal yet.

    Oh, btw, just for fun I tried the shipping code, and unfort. it not longer works.
  18. MuppetCaper

    MuppetCaper Well-Known Member

    Wow that sucks mrsieve. Sorry to hear that. :sympathy:
  19. Was Once Ernie

    Was Once Ernie Well-Known Member

    I agree 100% about the 80% and 95% in your message... and everything else in the paragraph above.

    I said it before. This Gonzo is an expensive toy. Granted, it's the nicest and best Muppet toy ever made... even better than the Ideal Kermit... but it is in no way an "authentic replica". It doesn't matter what the reasons were that they couldn't do it right. I mean, I understand the reasons, but that's besides the point. The way they made him, he is not an "authentic replica".

    Personally, I don't collect toys. I only have two of the Palisades Muppets, Jim Henson and Rainbow Connection Kermit. I didn't even get the flocked Kermit statue that Disney put out, as nice as that was. So, when they get back to making replicas, as we assume they will with Fozzie, then I'll buy again.

  20. muppetperson

    muppetperson Well-Known Member

    Why are people saying it shouldnt have been made.That is a selfish viewpoint for the people who do want it.Just because they dont want it doesnt mean that nobody else should be deprived of it.For those who dont want it, just dont buy it and forget about it.

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