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Most evil Muppet movie villain?

Discussion in 'Classic Muppets' started by BobThePizzaBoy, Jan 18, 2012.


Who's the most evil Muppet movie villain?

  1. Doc Hopper

    16 vote(s)
  2. Nicky Holiday

    0 vote(s)
  3. Ebeneezer Scrooge

    0 vote(s)
  4. Long John Silver

    5 vote(s)
  5. K. Edgar Singer

    0 vote(s)
  6. Rachel Bitterman

    10 vote(s)
  7. The Wicked Witch of the West

    1 vote(s)
  8. Tex Richman

    5 vote(s)

  1. vettech28

    vettech28 Well-Known Member

    Doc Hopper is pretty evil in regards to using Kermit for financial gain, so was Nicky Holiday for using Miss Piggy as a pawn to stay out of jail and avoid suspicion from anyone. Rachel Bitterman by far, is the most evil. Not only did she change the contract and take the Muppet Theater, but had convinced Kermit that what happened was his fault for believing in his dreams and it really hurt his feelings so much he wished he was never born. If that's not evil enough, I don't know what is.
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  2. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    Rachel Bitterman is a pretty weak villain, if you ask me. In fact, she wasn't evil, just nasty. Just over the top nasty.

    True Evil would be someone willing to kill one or more of the characters. And only 2 villains in Muppet history tried to kill a Muppet. Doc Hopper (out of desperation, hiring a hit man) and Constantine ("Bacon for Breakfast!")
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  3. CensoredAlso

    CensoredAlso Well-Known Member

    I used to think Doc Hopper might be the most evil, but at least he was genuinely hurt when Max rejected him. He didn't want to admit being so obsessed with a dream had its drawbacks. He had some nuance.

    I'm going to have to go with Constantine as the most evil for me. Yea he's funny at times but nothing to really redeam him. He reminds me too much of Wander McMooch from Fraggle Rock, who even the creators disliked for being too one dimensionally evil.
  4. Dominicboo1

    Dominicboo1 Well-Known Member

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  5. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    Well... that was a slightly redeeming moment, but it's more of a moment for Max. Doc already crossed the Moral Event Horizon by hiring someone to kill Kermit. But it does add a little nuance of honor among villains, accentuating that Southern Gentlemanly bit they were going for.
  6. LamangoNumber2

    LamangoNumber2 Well-Known Member

    Again, everyone forgets the insane man who tried to kill Gonzo's entire family...
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  7. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    Technically, his character was an antagonist, who was more of a Knights Templar. A bad one at that.
  8. SkeetScootSquat

    SkeetScootSquat Well-Known Member

    Why isn't Martin P. on the poll!?!?! :( .He suffocated Camilla and scared Gonzo to death!!!!!!!! I still have nightmares about that.
  9. Dominicboo1

    Dominicboo1 Well-Known Member

    Perhaps, because he was only in the movie for a few minutes? Kind of like Professor Krassman from The Muppet Movie isn't on the poll.....he was evil enough for sure, but wasn't int he movie enough
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  10. SkeetScootSquat

    SkeetScootSquat Well-Known Member

    good point.
  11. Dominicboo1

    Dominicboo1 Well-Known Member

    Now HE gave me nightmares...I had nightmares of Kermit babysitting me and I was forced to watch Doc and the professor put him in it...the Professor kept telling me to say goodbye, because I wouldn't see him again.......
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