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Mr. Magorium's Wonder Emporium

Discussion in 'Muppet Appearances' started by Loren, Nov 15, 2007.

  1. BeakerSqueedom

    BeakerSqueedom Active Member

    That was a very informative critique'!
    I'll rent it when it comes out, so that I may see
    his cameo.

    :p A good excuse to see Kermit!
  2. DannyRWW

    DannyRWW Well-Known Member

    I saw the movie last night and loved it. Personally I think the whole point of the cameo was the fact that they wanted to show this was a magical place (come on isn't Kermit the first thing most of us here think of when we think of magic). I took my one year old daughter and she behaved and stayed awake (two things that have never happenned before when it comes to movies at home or in theaters.... though I've only taken her before when they do kids movies during the summer...the whole place is filled with screaming children and she slept most of the time anyways).
    okay I'm rambling a bit but my point is the movie was good...it did not rely on toilet humor or explosions to make a point...in fact the special effects were not to over the top and provided just the right amount of magic the film needed. Also the relience on puppeteers for this film was nice to see as well (some special effects like an adorable sock monkey were done the old fashioned way). I think a lot of people will pass this movie up because it is too kiddie (including the kids of the world who would rather watch a sports competition instead of enjoying the magic of childhood. I encourage all of you to just forget your an adult for a little while and let the magic in the world back into your life. Thats what the purpose of this movie is. To see the magic inside each of us and in the world. Sometimes we become so jaded that we tend to only want to see the darker parts of life in a movie or a story. We become cynical about family films that have no swearing or violence or sex in them. I've wanted to see this movie since I heard about it and my expectations were met (not like when I read Great Expectations which was nowhere as good as I thought it would be). Anyways I do enbcourage all of you to see this movie. Give it a try. I mean if Kermit thinks its good enough to be in then we really should support the little fabricated Green guy right :)
  3. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    As far as Tim Burton's Charlie and the Chocolate factory goes, I am kinda glad that they didn't have any call backs to the previous film. The only place call backs belong in is a remake of something (i.e. hiring a cast member of the original to have a cameo, having an at the moment musician cover a song, or reference the film in any way). I felt this was just making another movie based on the same source, just a little more accurately. It would be as if someone made a Wizard of Oz movie based entirely off the book, and not to be related to the Judy garland 1930's film. Everyone would expect a remake, but it would be completely different. And some fans of the book would want it that way.

    AS for Magorium? Well, Kermit or not, I am not sure I really want to see it. I would be able to sneak into that one and leave as soon as our Frog in cheif has his cameo. But that's sorta dishonest. Plus, they time the movies so they all start in a fashion that you can't leave one at the end and immediately see another.
  4. frogboy4

    frogboy4 Inactive Member

    I'm glad to see somebody got many of the same things out of that film as I did. Like the film - you have to want to believe and enjoy your time spent at Magoriums or you probably won't be pleased with it. And if you're seeing it just for Kermit then you might want to wait for the DVD. I'm glad to have supported the film - for the movie's sake and for Kermit! :)

    About Burton's Charlie - remake or not I don’t believe in hard and fast rules for anything. Any good creative decision making should be done on a case-by-case basis. I just wanted to hear that one song in it - somewhere, anywhere. I enjoy Tim Burton's work, but the movie was missing an extra spark here and there. Depp's performance was amazing, as always. I tend to forget just how good he is until seeing another film performance. I have never seen an actor more dedicated to a director! :cool:

    Back to Magorium’s, I liked the sock-puppet performance too. That simple bit of puppetry was one of the things that related to the audience the most. :cry:
  5. TheJimHensonHour

    TheJimHensonHour New Member

    I'm in a minority and would not want it based off the old movie which I don't care for because I'm a fan of the books and don't think it does them justice while Return to Oz did. which btw did poorly because of the exact reasons you listed.:sympathy:
  6. Luke

    Luke Active Member

    I really didn't think Burton's Wonka stuck anymore to the book than the original movie. Infact i thought it went further off. I enjoyed it but was expecting more -effects and casting were good though. The original seemed more in the style of what i would expect from a movie based on that book.
  7. heralde

    heralde Well-Known Member

    As far as the Wonka films, I don't judge the new one by close it is or isn't to the book. As a movie, it was cute, but just not particularly deep. And actually I think the original film (which I love lol) perhaps made a wise decision to stay away from the classic book and stake its own territory as a film. :)
  8. TheJimHensonHour

    TheJimHensonHour New Member

    How is the new wonka film not deep? I loved the think and I usually don't like Tim Burten.
    Have you guys forgot about wonkas dad...or maybe I'm the only person who had tears in his eyes over all that..man did it choke me up.
    But perhaps thats all part of knowing what its like having a father like that.
    *shruggs*
  9. heralde

    heralde Well-Known Member

    Well that's a good point, I probably am unable to fully identify with the film's situation. And I think it's great that some people were moved by it; perhaps I am missing something. :)
    I just think the emotions and message were pretty obvious and not multi layered. It wasn't bad; I could see where they were going with it and Johnny Deep and Christopher Lee are good actors. But it could have been further developed, in my opinion.

    I thought the old movie was more mature in the end. But then, perhaps I identified with Wonka's disenchantment with the world. :)
  10. frogboy4

    frogboy4 Inactive Member

    I feel Burton's Wonka was missing something too. I felt at arm's length - more viewer than immersed participant. That's the opposite I felt with Edward Scissorhands. That film reached me on many levels. I'd say Burton's best. We'll see what Sweeney Todd offers. :concern:

    I saw Bee Movie yesterday and have to say that I enjoyed Mr. Magorium more. Bee wasn't a bad film, but all over the place and not particularly interesting. Beeeautiful animation and a few good performances. I liked Seinfeld's Bee expressions. :D

    :attitude: I admit, Magorium is a theatrically released TV movie, but it is better than some of the stuff out there...well, until today. Expect Enchanted to take off in a huge way. That film's going to hit all green lights all the way to the bank! Magorium will vanish quickly and likely unnoticed.
  11. TheJimHensonHour

    TheJimHensonHour New Member

    It's funny all those movies coming out are pretty much ripp offs of other movies...That one with the polarbears looks like such a Narnia ripp off.
  12. BobThePizzaBoy

    BobThePizzaBoy Well-Known Member

    I just got back from Enchanted (great movie!) and I snuck into Mr. Magorium's Wonder Emporium afterward (shhhhh!). Oh my freaking god, what a terrible movie. It just dragged and dragged. :) was the best part of course and that part actually was somewhat funny. But I walked out of that crapfest as soon as the frog came and went. Does he appear at all the film besides the one scene where all the kids are amazed by him and he says "Just shopping"? I walked out right after that. Oy, the things we Muppet fans have to suffer through. :rolleyes:
  13. frogboy4

    frogboy4 Inactive Member

    I saw it too. It wasn't the best film, but I did enjoy the slower pace and less reliance on the usual expected eyeball-grabbing found in such films. You walked out in the first few minutes of the film? That's when Kermit appears. So about ten or twelve minutes of the film dragged and dragged for you or did you sit through the end of one cycle and then the beginning of another?

    Funny you should say that. The author, reportedly, wrote the books as a sort-of anti-Narnia. It's supposedly subtle in the first book of the trilogy, but there is an eventual attack on this particular world's theocratic government. There is a very big movement against it (as you can imagine). The book's sentiment went largely unnoticed until being made into a motion picture. It peeks my interest, but that is in no way an endorsement. I'll see it and report my finding later. :confused:

    An original idea in movies and television? And all this celluloid gold was made before the writer's strike. He he. :eek:
  14. BobThePizzaBoy

    BobThePizzaBoy Well-Known Member

    Kermit was the only reason I snuck into Magorium's after I saw Enchanted and I left as soon as Kermit's scene was over (I came to see what I wanted to see I didn't need to see anymore), those first ten or twelve minutes felt more like a half hour to me, maybe because it was late at night or me just getting impatient and waiting for Kermit to appear so I could leave, it was just such a painful movie to sit through. It got me to chuckle once when Kermit wasn't on screen (the fish mobile) but I found those 12 minutes very stale and dull. Enchanted's whole 107 minutes were better than the 12 minutes I sat through Mr. Magorium's. Man... :rolleyes:
  15. heralde

    heralde Well-Known Member

    Are you referring to the Golden Compass? I have been hearing that it's a bit anti-Christian. Which basically equals anti-Narnia. I'm not suprised, the cool thing to be right now is anti-Christian, even if it comprises so much of your viewing audience.
  16. frogboy4

    frogboy4 Inactive Member

    That's the part I'm uncertain of. There has been a swift knee-jerk reaction to this film while the award-winning books have been around for a while. I have not been exposed to either or actually seen enough about the author's intention in context. So far I am under the impression that the spirit of the book is anti-theocracy rather than anti-theology. I'm reserving judgement.

    Christians are seen as the "big fish" in the English-speaking sections of the world and as such by that nature (popularity rather than actual belief) it is often attacked just as the popular kids at school or idolized celebrities in our culture. Such attacks really are unjustified on that criteria and often go unnoticed. That said, I'm still not sure if this is one of them.

    I tend to give people and things, such as projects, a fair shake. I like to see things for my own eyes before judgement. That means in their entirety and not just ten minutes after the opening credits. ;) From Passion to Last Temptation. And I see value and potential in even my least favorite things. I see that as a distinct part of being a good artist - to see the beauty in what is ugly and beneath the vaneer in what is considered to be beautiful. :excited:

    I really do wonder what will happen once this film comes out. Magorium, Enchanted, Chipmunks, Golden Compass - there really aren't as many family-friendly films this season as their ought to be. :smirk:
  17. heralde

    heralde Well-Known Member

    I agree, we naturally want to tear down the big powerful fish. I do understand that. But I think we also need to understand that the world is a complicated place and we should not judge a whole people based on the actions of a few. :)

    I know, I do want to be fair and see the film first before judging it. It's just that I've seen these attacks happen so many times, and very few people have spoken up. It's difficult.
  18. frogboy4

    frogboy4 Inactive Member

    The Golden Compass Controversy.

    It appears that more and more these days there are no shades in the spectrum of opinion or debate - only the stark extremes. I tend to pull for the underdog, but I refuse to buy into anything hook, line and sinker. It is so easy to hear a few words, without confirming the accuracy of the source, and reacting to it.

    I have many friends who are pulling for the Golden Compass motion picture in taking an (unconfirmed) atheistic stance while other Christians in my life are boycotting. Neither really knows the full story. Heck, I'd see 90% of the films out there if I could. I love movies and the movie-going experience in general. That is not to say I enjoy each individual film, rather that I enjoy giving them a chance. Anyway, here's a link to a thread already out there that I will bump that speaks about the Golden Compass. I'll republish this post there as well.

    Link Here to the Golden Compass Thread
  19. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    Now that this is on DVD, you may expect to see the clip on Youtube sometime in the near future.
  20. The 11th UrRu

    The 11th UrRu Member

    I really enjoyed this, not a 5 star movie but a good, creative family film.


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