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Muppet-Puppet Replicas on Ebay

Discussion in 'Puppets For Sale' started by Medbe Monster, Mar 9, 2007.

  1. Nick

    Nick Well-Known Member

    Oh I have to jump into this... As most of you know I did tons and tons of research on puppets, and also wanted to borrow one for my class etc. I spent many hours on eBay and saw many of these auctions. If you look at the pics, it is obvious they (the pictures) were professionally done. They are most likely not the actual puppets this person made. Some of the pics even look as if they were taken from video.

    His one feedback is from a t-shirt... I had seen these auctions before, and that person had a feedback of 4 or 5, if I remember. Their wording in the auction was very bad... and they said they would begin building in 3 months.
    This person has done some research, and most likely copied the text from other auctions... The one thing, is the pictures are the same and I distinctly remember them. This person began selling on eBay March 21st, I did my research over 2 months ago. ( I also mentioned these puppets in another post, were I covered some of this before... discussing the quality of them etc.)

    In my yrs of eBay experience, this is definately a scam, and this person has been busted more than once I'm sure. If Amicus did order Ernie and Bert, then prove me wrong and when your puppets arrive take pics and post them, let us see them, take pics around your house and with them on your arm.

    I have no doubt that Ravagefrackle can build these, 100%! I have seen him with a miss piggy build, and also other muppet builds, and not just the chickens! He could make a fortune himself selling on eBay, but, he is an ethical person, and also would never compromise his name and reputation. The person on eBay will eventually be caught, and will most likely be sued by Disney or Jim Henson Co. for any trademark infringement.

    Companies today have a person who, there only job is to investigate online auctions. To ensure their names are not being infringed, or illegally sold. I know that companies like Longaberger, Pampered Chef and others like it have a total eBay dept to make sure their reps do not sell on eBay, thus compromising the market of their goods.

    I have reported these auctions to eBay.
  2. Nick

    Nick Well-Known Member

    Taken from eBay...

    Counterfeits, unauthorized replicas, unauthorized items (such as counterfeit watches, handbags, or other accessories) or unauthorized copies (such as copies of software programs, video games, music albums, movies, television programs, or photographs) are not permitted on eBay. Unauthorized copies include (but are not limited to) copies that are pirated, duplicated, backed-up or bootlegged. It is illegal to sell unauthorized copies of media.
    Guideline: If the product you are selling bears the name or logo of a company, but it wasn't made or endorsed by that company, don't list it on eBay.
    Violations of this policy may result in a range of actions, including:
    • Listing cancellation
    • Limits on account privileges
    • Account suspension
    • Forfeit of eBay fees on cancelled listings
    • Loss of PowerSeller status
  3. spcglider

    spcglider Well-Known Member

    Then I suggest that anyone who thinks the law doesn't apply to them go ahead and order a Muppet replica from this person.

    That way, when they get scammed, we'll all be vindicated.

  4. Nick

    Nick Well-Known Member

    HUZZAH! I can't agree more! I will have to find the post where I talked about this same issue... and as I said, it was around 2 months ago that I posted it... I even think I used the person's eBay name in the post... As soon as I find it I will post the link....
  5. Nick

    Nick Well-Known Member

    Sorry I can't let this drop, (maybe I am OCD) Anyway, I can not stand someone who lies and or makes things up.... According to the post above, Amicus is bidding on a replica of Ernie and Bert... Well, I searched the auctions of Puppet Express... Completed and current in the last 30 days... and below is what I found.... The feedback I mentioned earlier is not an item this person sold, but one they bought. Also Note the bold, that is the only auction with a Bid, and it happens to be Kermit... the auction that ended is Gonzo... there are no auctions for Ernie and or Bert...


    1 - 10 of 10 total, Click on the column headers to sort.
    Item Start End Price Title High Bidder / Status
    230108741566Mar-23-07Mar-30-07 15:39:38 PDTUS $850.00Professional Ventriloquist CUSTOM muppet PUPPET TV PROPPrivate (*)

    230108802036Mar-23-07Mar-30-07 19:45:33 PDTUS $975.00Professional Ventriloquist CUSTOM muppet PUPPET TV PROPPrivate

    230108821248Mar-23-07Mar-30-07 20:41:42 PDTUS $2,995.00Professional Ventriloquist CUSTOM muppet PUPPET TV PROPPrivate

    230108949299Mar-24-07Mar-31-07 06:57:11 PDTUS $550.00Professional Ventriloquist CUSTOM muppet PUPPET TV PROPPrivate

    230109054668Mar-24-07Mar-31-07 11:47:56 PDTUS $850.00Professional Ventriloquist CUSTOM muppet PUPPET TV PROPPrivate

    230109091073Mar-24-07Mar-31-07 13:23:08 PDTUS $750.00Professional Ventriloquist CUSTOM muppet PUPPET TV PROPPrivate

    230109139064Mar-24-07Mar-31-07 15:49:25 PDTUS $750.00Professional Ventriloquist CUSTOM muppet PUPPET TV PROPPrivate

    230110273866Mar-27-07Apr-03-07 07:06:23 PDTUS $795.00Professional Ventriloquist CUSTOM muppet PUPPET TV PROPPrivate

    230108974309Mar-24-07Apr-03-07 08:23:01 PDTUS $395.00Professional Ventriloquist CUSTOM muppet PUPPET TV PROPPrivate

    230111840982Mar-30-07Apr-09-07 15:53:09 PDTUS $850.00Professional Ventriloquist CUSTOM muppet PUPPET TV PROPPrivate (*) indicates that auction has ended.
  6. Punch'n'Judy

    Punch'n'Judy Well-Known Member

  7. Jonathan

    Jonathan Well-Known Member

    Amicus, You are One of the Biggest Jerks I Have Ever heard From...
    Master Replica, and ravagefrackle puppets put these to shame, and Frankly, You just Prove that People are Ignorant, and Lose All Social Respect when they sign onto the internet!
    Does it make you feel better to pick on others Kid'o-
    Can You Build Better Than "Master Crapula"
    Or Have You Been Asked to build anything for the Muppets????

    Untill you prove to me these things
    Shut the Heck Up


    P.S: I Hope you Buy one of those Puppets... and Get you Butt Sue ed off!!!!!
  8. MuppetQuilter

    MuppetQuilter Well-Known Member

    This is truly ridiculous. The ebay auctions are clearly in violation of ebay rules and violation of MHC/Disney property rights. There's nothing to argue there; it's a fact. There is also no reason to attack one another, call people names, belittle each other... Everyone needs to go watch Fraggle Rock a few times and remember what Jim Henson tried to teach us.

    Amicus, play nice or go away.

    Everyone else, quit egging him on.

  9. ravagefrackle

    ravagefrackle Well-Known Member

    go for it, seems to me he hasnt sold one ever. He posts the same pictures everytime he tries to sell one. So go for it , wouldnt be suprised if you get scammed out of your cash,
  10. spcglider

    spcglider Well-Known Member

    Has anyone here given consideration to the idea that the seller IS Amicus?

    A little research shows his past postings sure have been asking a lot of questions about how to MAKE these exact Muppets.

    And he certainly spends a LOT of time defending the "right" to buy and sell them. To the point of being paranoiac about it. He gets downright nasty when it's brought up.

    I'm just sayin'... is all.

  11. Jinx

    Jinx Well-Known Member

    Sadly, ebay does indeed bring the unscrupulous ones to the surface. There is a troll on there who sells a saxophone harness that he claims to have "developed" when it is plain and obvious to see that it is a poor copy of one designed and manufactured by the company I work for.

    This particular jerk seems to think very highly of himself and his opinions, as does Amicus (ironically, a word meaning "friendly"), and lives in a very, very tiny world where he is the only one who matters, and there is no accountability to others.

    Such small-minded persons are to be pitied as much as censured. They are also the personality types who are or become conspiracy theorists who are utterly convinved that they "know" the secrets of life. HA!
  12. Nick

    Nick Well-Known Member

    Yeah ok... Well we will be waiting to see those pics... Being a proud owner of two look alikes, you will obviously want to show them off!
  13. spcglider

    spcglider Well-Known Member

    Ever so interested.

    Time to put your money where your mouth is, Big A.

  14. Fozzie Bear

    Fozzie Bear Well-Known Member

    Please, everyone who is offended by Amicus' posts, put him on your ignore list.

    Amicus: Your attitude in this thread is negative and horrendous. This is your ONLY request to behave more positive and constructively on these forums. Over 2 pages of this thread have had you making posts as if you're calling someone out, trolling to start a fight and I will not have that happening.

    If you want to buy these things, go buy them. Spend your money. It doesn't hurt any of us. When a major company like Master Replicas visits these boards, however, and participate with the fans I will NOT allow you or anyone to talk so negatively about them. There aren't any other companies who are kind enough to get fan feed-back on products they're selling us!

    Furthermore, you have no idea who you are talking to on these message boards. There are several of these guys here who have worked with constructing and performing Muppets, and one such is working alongside Master Replicas.

    Your negative posts have carried on long enough. Time to stop.

    Everyone else, do not reply to him on this topic, please.
  15. spcglider

    spcglider Well-Known Member

    Whoever it is that's making the puppets is doing just-fine work. That's really not the issue, in my view. I've seen better and I've seen worse. It's really immaterial.

    It is my position that such a cavalier attitude towards the intellectual property rights and licensing rights of anyone, from the individual artist to juggernauts like Disney, harms the integrity of forums like this one.

    We do have people from Henson swing through here from time to time... as well as folks who work closely with the Henson organizations. I think the onus is ours to remember that we, as fans, are playing in someone else's "sandbox". We need to respect that and I feel we should remind those who do not that they risk our entire community by ignoring it.

    If the legality of this sort of activity were NOT suspect, I surmise the auctions wouldn't have been removed from Ebay (as they have been now).

  16. antonydavanzo

    antonydavanzo Well-Known Member

    Looks like more fakes on Ebay.....
  17. biblebetty

    biblebetty Well-Known Member

    yea, a ton of them, this guy just doesn't give up.
  18. spcglider

    spcglider Well-Known Member

    Disney, MHC, The Jim Henson Company, and Sesame Workshop all know about this person (actually persons?). I am told they are working with their lawyers to build a case and gather information. When they get that taken care of, they will send a Cease and Desist Order. If the activity continues, they will press legal charges.

    In the mean time, any profit garnered by making the illegal replicas will only count against the maker. The more money they make on these unlicensed replicas, the more damages MHC and Disney can hold them responsible for and the easier it will be to pin the guilt upon them.

    So I hope they aren't spending that money. Because in the end, The Mouse is going to come with his high-pockets lawyers and take it all away.

  19. antonydavanzo

    antonydavanzo Well-Known Member

    I have informed E Bay about the fakes so hopefully they will take them down........I hope you guys dont think I am sad for snitching on him but I think its a bit naughty.
  20. spcglider

    spcglider Well-Known Member

    Like anyone, I urge you to do what your good conscience leads you to do.


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