Respectful Politics Thread (Let's Just See)

[Old Thunder]

Can someone please clear something up for me? Are sexual orientation and race the same thing?

No.

 

[dwayne1115]

Ok conservative rant time....

I am not going to sit here and say racism dose not exist, and that some so call republicans think that racism is Ok because it's not. That being said it is also not Ok to label people racist or homophobic simply because they may disagree with issues, and choices people make.
Racism back before the civil rights movement where segregation was a huge problem I can understand why people would protest and March because it was obvious they were not being treated equally. Today we have nuts protesting and destroying statutes of people who lived 100 years ago who had a very different mindset then we do today. I have said this before, but it bares repeating, slavery has been abolished since 1865 with the 13th amendment in the constation. If you are a legal us citizen no matter where you may have originally came form you can vote, and get a job.
Now there are some a very small some who thanks to social media and things who have been able to make there small voice louder which in retun has made them grow, but not by much.

LGBTQ:
I'm going to try to choose my words carefully as not to offend. I don't care what anyone dose in the privacy of his or her bedroom. What goes on there is between you the other person, and God.As long as you don't parade around, boast about it or whatever who really cares?

 

[dwayne1115]

 

[Old Thunder]

As long as you don't parade around, boast about it or whatever who really cares?

For years the LGBT community has suffered immeasurable persecution from people who deemed themselves God’s right hand. They should consider these parades as payback.

 

[D'Snowth]

McCain's funeral is underway, and of course Fox News makes it about Trump:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...merica-was-always-great/ar-BBMJCbY?li=BBnb7Kz

 

[D'Snowth]

This is amusing to read . . . because it's true.

https://tericarter.wordpress.com/2017/07/10/8-years-of-suffering-under-obama/

But, in all seriousness, no, I agree, they did suffer under eight years of Obama:

- They suffered because he took away their "White Privilege" by advocating basic human rights for minorities groups such as blacks, Jews, Hispanics, Asians, the LGBT community, and yes - Muslims.

- They suffered because they believed that B.S. about him being Muslim simply because his middle name is Hussein.

- They suffered because he apologized to countries that we screwed with in the first place, and tried to make peace with them.

- They suffered because he reworked their definition of religious freedom from being code for attacking the LGBT community to giving Americans the freedom to practice whatever religion that's significant to them and their culture.

- They suffered because he's black.

So yeah, they did, indeed, suffer under eight years of Obama, but their suffering was over petty reasons.

 

[dwayne1115]

There is a wonderful channel on YouTube called police academy. It has hundreds of videos from police officers all across the country with there body and dash cameras. You should see what these men and women have to put up with on a daily basis risking there lives to protect and serve everyone not just white people but all people.
Yes there are some racists police officers out there, but with the help of teconlagy today those police officers will get the punishment they deserve.
Maybe, if people would start following the law and if they are being approached by an officer show some respect, and let them do there job then maybe we wouldn't need a BLM.

 

[MuppetsRule]

You know why we should boycott Nike? Because they pay their factory workers (who are 80% female) 20 cents an hour and working 70 to 80 hours a week, so Nike can profit enough to pay Kaepernick millions of dollars to speak out against oppression and injustice.

How's that for whining??!!!

 

[dwayne1115]

You know why we should boycott Nike? Because they pay their factory workers (who are 80% female) 20 cents an hour and working 70 to 80 hours a week, so Nike can profit enough to pay Kaepernick millions of dollars to speak out against oppression and injustice.

How's that for whining??!!!

I saw that on Facebook, and thought that could not be true.

 

[dwayne1115]

I Am Part of the Resistance Inside the Trump Administration

Sept. 5, 2018
The Times today is taking the rare step of publishing an anonymous Op-Ed essay. We have done so at the request of the author, a senior official in the Trump administration whose identity is known to us and whose job would be jeopardized by its disclosure. We believe publishing this essay anonymously is the only way to deliver an important perspective to our readers.
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President Trump is facing a test to his presidency unlike any faced by a modern American leader.

It’s not just that the special counsel looms large. Or that the country is bitterly divided over Mr. Trump’s leadership. Or even that his party might well lose the House to an opposition hellbent on his downfall.

The dilemma — which he does not fully grasp — is that many of the senior officials in his own administration are working diligently from within to frustrate parts of his agenda and his worst inclinations.

I would know. I am one of them.

To be clear, ours is not the popular “resistance” of the left. We want the administration to succeed and think that many of its policies have already made America safer and more prosperous.

But we believe our first duty is to this country, and the president continues to act in a manner that is detrimental to the health of our republic.

That is why many Trump appointees have vowed to do what we can to preserve our democratic institutions while thwarting Mr. Trump’s more misguided impulses until he is out of office.

The root of the problem is the president’s amorality. Anyone who works with him knows he is not moored to any discernible first principles that guide his decision making.

Although he was elected as a Republican, the president shows little affinity for ideals long espoused by conservatives: free minds, free markets and free people. At best, he has invoked these ideals in scripted settings. At worst, he has attacked them outright.

In addition to his mass-marketing of the notion that the press is the “enemy of the people,” President Trump’s impulses are generally anti-trade and anti-democratic.

Don’t get me wrong. There are bright spots that the near-ceaseless negative coverage of the administration fails to capture: effective deregulation, historic tax reform, a more robust military and more.

But these successes have come despite — not because of — the president’s leadership style, which is impetuous, adversarial, petty and ineffective.

From the White House to executive branch departments and agencies, senior officials will privately admit their daily disbelief at the commander in chief’s comments and actions. Most are working to insulate their operations from his whims.

Meetings with him veer off topic and off the rails, he engages in repetitive rants, and his impulsiveness results in half-baked, ill-informed and occasionally reckless decisions that have to be walked back.

“There is literally no telling whether he might change his mind from one minute to the next,” a top official complained to me recently, exasperated by an Oval Office meeting at which the president flip-flopped on a major policy decision he’d made only a week earlier.

The erratic behavior would be more concerning if it weren’t for unsung heroes in and around the White House. Some of his aides have been cast as villains by the media. But in private, they have gone to great lengths to keep bad decisions contained to the West Wing, though they are clearly not always successful.

It may be cold comfort in this chaotic era, but Americans should know that there are adults in the room. We fully recognize what is happening. And we are trying to do what’s right even when Donald Trump won’t.

The result is a two-track presidency.

Take foreign policy: In public and in private, President Trump shows a preference for autocrats and dictators, such as President Vladimir Putin of Russia and North Korea’s leader, Kim Jong-un, and displays little genuine appreciation for the ties that bind us to allied, like-minded nations.

Astute observers have noted, though, that the rest of the administration is operating on another track, one where countries like Russia are called out for meddling and punished accordingly, and where allies around the world are engaged as peers rather than ridiculed as rivals.

On Russia, for instance, the president was reluctant to expel so many of Mr. Putin’s spies as punishment for the poisoning of a former Russian spy in Britain. He complained for weeks about senior staff members letting him get boxed into further confrontation with Russia, and he expressed frustration that the United States continued to impose sanctions on the country for its malign behavior. But his national security team knew better — such actions had to be taken, to hold Moscow accountable.

This isn’t the work of the so-called deep state. It’s the work of the steady state.

Given the instability many witnessed, there were early whispers within the cabinet of invoking the 25th Amendment, which would start a complex process for removing the president. But no one wanted to precipitate a constitutional crisis. So we will do what we can to steer the administration in the right direction until — one way or another — it’s over.

The bigger concern is not what Mr. Trump has done to the presidency but rather what we as a nation have allowed him to do to us. We have sunk low with him and allowed our discourse to be stripped of civility.

Senator John McCain put it best in his farewell letter. All Americans should heed his words and break free of the tribalism trap, with the high aim of uniting through our shared values and love of this great nation.

We may no longer have Senator McCain. But we will always have his example — a lodestar for restoring honor to public life and our national dialogue. Mr. Trump may fear such honorable men, but we should revere them.

There is a quiet resistance within the administration of people choosing to put country first. But the real difference will be made by everyday citizens rising above politics, reaching across the aisle and resolving to shed the labels in favor of a single one: Americans.

The writer is a senior official in the Trump administration.