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Discussion in 'Sesame Street' started by Hubert, Jun 19, 2012.
I am deeply shocked that I am the only one who wants a Land of Gorch movie.
I did say the big three (Muppets, Sesame Street and Fraggle Rock) but they're also making a Sid The Science Kid Movie. I'm happy to see how many movies are being made!!
Wouldn't it be awesome if some how this year all of them were released next year? And think if it was the same time: four Henson-related movies to see. The only interesting thing is that if even two of those are made, they would have to work around each other's production schedule, as many of the same people would have to be involved.
Now I'm wondering too... suppose there's someone amongst the human cast who is virtually invisible in the movie? For some reason, David was absent from FTB, likewise, Susan, Luis, and Gina were reduced to walk-around extras in EIG (and we didn't even see who was running Hooper's Store, I guess to avoid confusion since it came out after ATC had been done away with, but was in production while it was still standing).
What can I say that hasn't already been said? I really hope that this will be an ensemble piece like FTB, and with the characters stepping out into the real world unlike EiG.
You have to take into consideration that just about each of the SST movies were arguably ensemble pieces, but at the same time, like a lot of ensemble pieces, each of the movies did have one character that was basically the central of the plot, whether it was Big Bird (FTB), Elmo (EIG, CinderElmo), or Abby (Abby in Wonderland).
The thing about FTB was that even though it was about Big Bird, the other characters had a major role. With EIG, they had a role, but not quite as big. I actually think that people don't want to see is Elmo or Abby in the central role, and will take about anyone else.
That's pretty much why I was saying, y'know, a lot of people, including myself, would LOVE to see a Super Grover movie, but I think if we can't get that, at least give Big Bird another movie since Elmo's had two.
Well...I don't really count CinderElmo or Abby in Wonderland as real movies. But still, a Super Grover movie would be great, even a Big Bird one would be fine. I do think an Ernie and Bert movie might even be cool...
I agree that I'd love to see a movie focused on Ernie and Bert!
Who says you are? It's probably going to be better than half the SNL skit movies out there.
EIG was rushed. No doubt about it. I have the same problem with that as I do with LTS... the other characters just sit their through most of the film, doing nothing to further the plot. And it didn't need to be if they had just one or two more rewrites. I love LTS, but find the ending (everything that happens at the North Pole, basically) anti-climactic. EIG blew a crap-load of opportunities. Elmo should have had a companion travel with him. Zoe, Telly (worrying all the way)... even Oscar would have been fun to have showing Elmo around Grouchland. But they blow that opportunity and shove Big Bird, Telly, and Oscar in jail ... Zoe's at home doing nothing....
FTB, while Big Bird was the star, was more of an ensemble piece. Each character group had their own little vignettes of what they were doing on the way to find Big Bird... they picked the cream of the crop of the characters, and we had a fun journey that focused on Big Bird, but gave the others something to do. Even arguably Abby in Wonderland and CinderElmo, but I don't count those as movies. They desperately need to give other characters something to do in this film.
That's what I was asking earlier, are those two going to "not count", and we're going to pretend they didn't happen like KSY, IAVMMCM, and MWoO because they weren't theatrical movies?
Was Abby in Wonderland a theatrical movie?
No, it was a DVD movie, CE was a TV movie.
But again, it seems like for most Muppet Freaks or Sesamites, if it's not a theatrical movie, then it doesn't count as a real movie.
i just really am hoping for a Bert and Ernie movie some way that they can do it. Or if not everybody loves Grover
The question is, are they even theatrical length? I missed CinderElmo, but saw Abby in Wonderland. There was NO attempt at making AIW look a thing like a movie (it wasn't even shot through a filter to make it look like a movie, unlike Cinderelmo), and it didn't have a run time measurable to a theatrical feature (same reason I don't count LTS as a movie). In fact, they had to run the street story of an episode to fill out an hour when they showed AIW on PBS.
Though AIW was indeed shown in theaters at Kidtoons Cinema, as was the DTV project Dinosaurs.
But it still doesn't quite count as a film on those technicalities. If so, we'd have to include the Peter and the Wolf special, Elmo's Magic Cook Book, and various others as "films" too.
Even with the three Muppet DTV/Telefilms project, they were treated like movies... VMX even has "Movie" in the title. However, I still count those as DTV projects that are "films" on the technicality that they're filmed like movies and have a measurable film runtime (over an hour).
Yeah, the only Sesame special I know of that runs about the length of a movie is Big Bird in China, which is a couple minutes longer than Elmo in Grouchland. I never considered Abby in Wonderland or CinderElmo movies because, well, they were 1-hour TV specials, Abby didn't even have that going for it!
Alls I know is SW has said that although AIW was produced for DVD, it was meant to be a movie for Abby.
the thing that will make or break this movie is they have to use a lot of different Muuppets in the movie. Cookie Grover and Ernie and Bert and Oscar need to be funny. Let big bird Elmo and maybe even Abby do some of the tear jerking moments, and the movie will be fine.
Was it not Mr. Joey Manzeno who during the filming of SS season 40 was saying how sad it was that they had a room full of unused Muppets at the studio and how he wished he could have put more old school refrecese in the show? If that is the case then we should be fine.
Plus, even if they don't have a room full of Muppets that aren't being used, we still know they have Biff and Sully and Sherlock Hemlock and Herry and Harvey Kneeslapper puppets, as they've been used recently. It'd be great if they could even make a silent cameo.
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