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Save the Fozzie Replica

Discussion in 'Muppet Replicas' started by muppetperson, Sep 26, 2008.

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Would you buy a full-size Fozzie Bear Photo Puppet Replica?

  1. Yes. money is no object

    123 vote(s)
    45.2%
  2. Yes. if he is $400-$600

    40 vote(s)
    14.7%
  3. Yes. if he is less than $400

    92 vote(s)
    33.8%
  4. No

    17 vote(s)
    6.3%

  1. frogboy4

    frogboy4 Inactive Member

    I'd say all of them should be told. Set a wide net and hope to get at least one bite. Luke's idea is so perfect. Bears have their own appeal to collectors. A lifesize replica of Fozzie would certainly be a bigger sell if exposed through these various bear retailers. :o
     
  2. rexcrk

    rexcrk Well-Known Member

    I'm not sure how I want to vote... I mean of course I want to get a Fozzie to go with Kermit and Gonzo, but I just can't justify paying over $600 for one >_> It would have to be darn near perfect. I'll have to think about this for a bit.

    Wow, this just reminded me I still need to pick up an Animal replica :halo:
     
  3. muppetperson

    muppetperson Well-Known Member

    I just added a poll over at teddybearandfriends.com Sadly, only our poll is the best, but still very slow.followed by Master Replicas.
     
  4. Luke

    Luke Active Member

    When i get some time i will have a look around the bear collector sites, although anything is helpful, it might be better to direct people to the MR poll than start new ones everywhere. I might try mailing the webmasters of these type of sites and try to get them to feature it in their news sections, its a shame there wasn't a press release for the Fozzie replica (at least i dont think).
     
  5. muppetperson

    muppetperson Well-Known Member

    Unfortuately, teddybearandfriends is being ruined by porn pirates.And the other teddy forums have very low members, like 176 or 99.
     
  6. Luke

    Luke Active Member

    Oh dear, porn pirates :eek::o Do you know if there any magazines for bear collectors? I'm pretty sure there was here in England.
     
  7. Was Once Ernie

    Was Once Ernie New Member

    Well, I hate to be so negative, but I think the fact that only 46 people said they would buy him on MUPPET CENTRAL pretty much puts the last nail in the coffin for the Fozzie poser. I don't see how they could ever justify doing him with this little interest.

    :p
     
  8. frogboy4

    frogboy4 Inactive Member

    There was reportedly a lot of interest at the Comic Con last year. The prototype they have needs to appear in view of collectors again. I can wait another year for Fozzie, but they should certainly bring him back to Comic Con and other such conventions. I think the tide would turn enough to justify production. He's just so cool. I would say they should just have him and Kermit. The others might lead to some questions of likeness replication issues in factory production.
     
  9. MuppetCaper

    MuppetCaper Active Member

    I already had my doubts about Fozzie when this thread started. I am wondering why a couple of the people over there are so concerned with the Ghostbusters as being a new license. If they are doing this theme, I am not even sure if that will last due to the lack of interest. MR did a poor job of not getting much product out this year. I would not be suprised about anything at this point with them. At this point, I am at whatever happens, happens.
     
  10. muppetguy

    muppetguy Member

    At this point...

    Unfortunately, at this point MuppetCaper, I highly doubt Fozzie will be made. I still don't understand why, though. With the Muppets really coming back into the lime light with studio dc and the new christmas special and the movie and all, it just doesn't make any sense to me. I still think they released these poser in the wrong order, due to reasons why they didn't sell well. People might give me some slack for this, but I'm going to try anyway.

    Kermit was the obvious choice for the 1st replica where as Animal as the second I think was TOTALLY wrong. I love my animal dearly, but I personally think that (and I am not saying this because this character is my favorite) but I believe Piggy should have been after Kermit. If people want to argue this point because she never really sells that well, well, look at the piggy products we've been given. You can count all the the really great one on one hand.

    The third replica should have been Fozzie. He needed to be in the top three, whether anyone wants to argue that Fozzie should've come before Piggy, I can bargain here, but those three SHOULD HAVE been the top three.

    The fourth Replica should have been Gonzo followed by Animal.

    This is just my opinion, but this is how I think MR should have gone.

    It's a shame, my muppets will never be complete and I honestly think MR should rethink this.

    They have a really great product here, it's a shame to see them waste it.
     
  11. frogboy4

    frogboy4 Inactive Member

    I never quite understood that either, but Piggy really doesn't sell as well when in a line with other Muppet characters. It's the unfortunate reality of the porcine goddess that is well known in merchandising. It is also something the Henson Company used to tell licensors. However, she does sell very well in a Piggy-exclusive niche. Go figure.

    You are right. The order of these (like the Palisades Mega Muppets) was not ideal and will leave core characters out to dry. I have to remind myself that marketing these things is hard and it is easier to talk about than actually sell, but here is how I think it should have gone:

    1 Kermit the Frog
    2 Fozzie Bear
    3 Gonzo
    4 Animal
    (5) During this time they should independently or adjacently, market Piggy poser with a limited edition, yet long-term sales strategy as she is much more difficult with her wigs, clothing and a notoriously more difficult selling point. This is a unique product where the pig has the potential to really do well if targeted correctly.

    *If there was time they could test the market with a slightly less core character like Dr. Teeth, Rowlf, Pepe, Beaker or Rizzo. Other than that, I think stopping at 5 or 6 is probably the best idea. They should have then focused on Muppet Moments like *accurately crafted* fluid poses of key characters frozen in their most iconic times (i.e. Rowlf's ears mid-flop while playing his brown upright) that could also be used as bookends or other such household items. There really is a goldmine to be had in the Muppets. The timing was off for Palisades and Sideshow, but MR is right at the heart of things. If not them, someone else will do it eventually. (EDIT - I didn't mean other companies would create posers really, rather they would create Muppet figural representations.)
     
  12. vaderdentist

    vaderdentist Member

  13. Convincing John

    Convincing John Well-Known Member

    I agree that Fozzie should have been second. We need an accurate representation of him (aside from the first Palisades figure). The Steppin Out Fozzie...yeeesh. those eyes, man.

    Comic Con and teddy bear companies should be notified about Fozzie. These two have huge markets and could really get the bear off the ground. Terry's prototype is nothing short of amazing! Whay can't we have a good Fozzie like that?

    Honestly, I'd rather have a Fozzie in the works that looks like this rather than the available ones that look like this.

    Convincing John
     
  14. rexcrk

    rexcrk Well-Known Member

    To be honest, I don't care if they make a Piggy replica... she's really not one of my favorite characters so I probably wouldn't buy her.

    I'm just glad we have Gonzo because HE is my favorite character, but I'm glad they did Kermit first (obviously).

    Animal, well, I like him but I like to see him more as part of the Electric Mayhem. That's something I didn't really like about his character in the late 90's/early 2000's, he was one of the "main Muppets" when I like to think of him more as a "secondary" Muppet. But the replica still looks really cool and I can't wait till he arrives at my door step!

    Fozzie is a good choice for fourth, but probably should've been third (after Kermit and Gonzo). I'd love a Rizzo to go with Gonzo at some point!
     
  15. Fozzie Bear

    Fozzie Bear Well-Known Member

    Here I am! Do I count?

    :o

    Yeah, my mama didn't want me either...

    I voted, and I want him (obviously). I need this one, even if it's the last one. It's the one I've been buying the others for. If he's not made I'll just have to sit in my dark corner of the house and cry.

    Again.
     
  16. Telly

    Telly Active Member

    Honestly, I think Fozzie would be a good way to end the replicas.
     
  17. Kevin Knight

    Kevin Knight New Member

    Man, seeing that Angus photo-proto is something of pure glee. Maybe we should blame Terry for being so dam* talented (JUST KIDDING) But seeing those prototypes makes my heart jump into my throat. He's so **** perfect! To imagine him standing here in my living room between the other guys would be so perfect. Please for the love of all things holy and sacred, MASTER REPLICAS; MAKE DA BEAR! PLEASE! WE WILL RELEASE YOU OF ANY FURTHER POSERS, JUST PLEASE GRANT US OUR BEAR?

    Terry, please make another so we can have more photos at least!
     
  18. Luke

    Luke Active Member

    That would have completely killed the line after one poser!

    Piggy just doesn't sell - even the good stuff, like the Pigs In Space playset. She sells a bit in things like paper and pen sets, a nice bag or t-shirt. Other than that it's a too female specific character. I can understand your thinking - Kermit and Piggy are a pair, an inconic pair ... but the pigs a love her or hate her character, and i think Kermit is a much more attractive item to have sitting in your bedroom than a pig in a frock :eek:

    I think the order should have been 1) Kermit, 2) Fozzie, 3) Animal. If Gonzo couldn't have been done right he should never have been done (not that i don't love my Gonzo poser), and if Piggy was ever done i agree with Jamie, best way of doing her would be a long term very niche, very high quality (and costly) limited edition.

    I have my doubts though the order even mattered. I think the lack of marketing and presentation does come into play here but even then, i still doubt it would have helped. The thing is Kermit is such a well known and well recognised character even outside of the Muppet gang. If you look at all the comments for his poser on Amazon a lot of people bought him who are just casual Kermit fans, not really dedicated Muppet fans. Lots of those people do know the other Muppets, but maybe not enough to spend a few hundred bucks on an item. I think thats the problem, and the reason Kermit sold so well.

    Maybe all this will change a few years from now what with all the new Muppet interest, hopefully even sooner so we could get our Fozzie poser, but until then i think its more likely to see either more Kermit specific merchandise (like they are starting to do in Disney stores now) or lots of smaller general Muppet lines (plushies, shirts, pens etc) priced for the casual fan.
     
  19. frogboy4

    frogboy4 Inactive Member

    I agree with that. :halo: There was so little advertising for all of these really. And we forget that Kermit did sell through, but he did take a lot longer than expected (well over a year). That shouldn't have happened. I will also never get over the poor photos of Gonzo and Animal. It was almost like some gremlin with a camera at MR wanted all the posers to himself and tried to tank the line! :eek:

    I still believe that they need to get Fozzie back in a room with collectors and take a poll from there. I am sure numerous people would want to buy him on the spot!
     
  20. MuppetCaper

    MuppetCaper Active Member

    What I can't get over is all the excuses why they won't make Fozzie. First it was cause they couldn't find a factory to make him THEN they said that not many people would be interested in him and lack of preorders. So what is it? I can tell you that there is a lot of stuff on the MR website that I know whould not go over to the public very well and they still sell the stuff. What a poor excuse for them not making him, and in the long run, what a waste of time and money on there part.
     


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