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Sesame Street Character Voice Comparisons

Discussion in 'Classic Sesame Street' started by Canadian Fan, Jan 7, 2011.

  1. Daffyfan4ever

    Daffyfan4ever Well-Known Member

    Yeah. I forgot about that, but that would be another reason. Though it wouldn't have been impossible if Marty were to loop in the voices for one of the characters.

    Yeah. Again, I always thought even Marty's earliest Telly voice moved away from Brians voice, such as in the 'Ask Oscar: Discussion" sketch. Now that one didn't sound like Brian or Marty as Telly, but according to the comments on You Tube, it was indeed Marty. But he sounded different there than he did in the sketch when he was with Snuffy and Fluffy. It's a shame they don't have any Telly voice comparisons there. That's something that would be worth looking into.
  2. Convincing John

    Convincing John Well-Known Member

    Well, here's a couple of non-Kevin Clash Elmo clips:


    They might both be Jerry Nelson, but I'm not sure.

    I know that there's more to the character, much more than just the voice. There's the movement, the mannerisms and the personality. I'll toss in my two cents and say that Eric really has come a long way. He seems to be better at Bert than Grover, but maybe he's more comfortable with Bert.

    I always wondered why Frank didn't say "Here, you perform Cookie, too." Eric's doing all of Frank's other main characters. Why not Cookie?

    Also...I know that Matt Vogel is doing his best, but he really needs to work on the Bird. Caroll has a more fluid way with Big Bird's movements and subtleties with expressing emotion. Vogel is almost too energetic with Big Bird. Even in the 80's or even 70's, Big Bird was a character that was more curious about life as opposed to a "bouncy", happy character like say, Elmo or Murray. The Bird's more complex than that.

    Matt's gotta work on his voice, too. If Caroll says "that's good enough", then fine, I guess. To me, Matt's Big Bird sounds like he needs Vicks Vapo Rub. He's got a stuffed-up beak.

    Steve, I gotta give the guy so much credit. None of us know what it's like to be in that guy's shoes and he works so hard trying to get, as Frank put it "inside the soul of Jim" to perform the characters he does, Kermit, Ernie, whoever.

    It's one thing to be a Muppeteer and the original Muppeteer right there, training you on how to perform their characters. Think Yoda training Luke.

    It's quite another thing to have the whole boss of the Muppets die, then to be assigned the most famous Muppet of all. Steve had a "Ben Kenobi training Luke" type of experience. He got a lot of Muppeteering experience with his own characters. He also got advice from Jim. But Jim suddenly vanished, sadly far too soon, leaving Steve to do the best he could with the skills he had learned.

    Telly has grown on me over the years. I think Martin Robinson does an excellent job with him and I've always enjoyed the Telly/Oscar moments, be they the Sneak Peek Previews, Ask Oscar or other segments.

    Telly still worries a lot, I think. He also freaks out, which is a really funny part of his character. Otherwise he'd just be a monster who really likes triangles (yawn). The recent Telly moments I really liked were when he declared himself a mad scientist "I'm a MAD scientist! MAD!" & I also laughed at Telly desperately begging Leela to help him make a huge amount of those Rakhi bracelets. Telly's had some really funny moments recently. I hope he gets to do more with Oscar soon.

    Yeah...and why the heck isn't there more Telly merchandise?

    Convincing John
  3. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    The latter of the two is Brian, though there have been some sources (like Biography) that incorrectly cited that as Richard's Elmo.

    It was because they wanted to do sketches with both Grover and Cookie in frame at the same time, and it was easier and more practical to do so with two different puppeteers.
    I've always likened Matt's Big Bird to sort of the transitional days of Caroll's Bird, when he slowly phased out the yokel accent and made him sound higher and more-childlike...

    Exactly, exactly, I couldn't have put that better myself.

    I think it may have something to do with he's not as easily recognizable as other characters... I remember in an interview with Marty, he and the cast were at an awards ceremony with their respective Muppets, with pictures being taken, and some of the photographers and paparazzi weren't quite familiar with Telly, so when they wanted shots of him, they kept callng out to him as "Purple Elmo"... and there ARE similarities in the character designs: both are monsters with oranges noses and black mouths, though Telly's fur is more of a fuschia, which is kind of like a reddish purple. Anyway, it was funny hearing Marty say that Telly got really miffed at that like "Purple Elmo? I'm the Purple Elmo? Well okay! Don't forget Oscar over here, he's the Green Elmo! Oh, and Cookie Monster, he's the Blue Elmo!"
  4. Convincing John

    Convincing John Well-Known Member

    That's right! I forgot about that. There have been a few times where Eric has done one character and Frank has actually done the other. I think it was a clip with both Bert and Grover in it. It was one of those once-in-a-blue-moon times when Frank was on the set.

    "Purple Elmo!" lol. Yeah, I heard that interview, too. I'm glad Telly reacted that way. Of course now, there are some people who refer to any Muppet as "Elmo". Oscar was on some daytime talk show and kids came up to him and said "Elmo?" Oscar said "I've never been so insulted in all my life." I get where Telly is not as recognizable as the other characters, but it could be that his fur color just doesn't "pop" enough when it comes to merchandising. Zoe was chosen to be that particular shade of orange to stand out against Elmo and also it made her more marketable against the towering, prehistoric purple horror of PBS.

    This could be why there is little Baby Bear merchandise, too. He's...well, a brown bear. He'd pretty much blend in with all the other brown teddy bears available in stores. If he were, say, a neon green and blue monster with a bright pink nose or something, that's different. He'd stand out and be marketable like Elmo or Zoe.

    Still, I think Telly's cool. Hopefully he'll get some good scenes this season.

    Convincing John
  5. Canadian Fan

    Canadian Fan Well-Known Member

    It sounded like Brian to me. I remember Brian's Telly before Marty took over. Too bad there wasn't any Telly merchandise, I always liked Telly. The Telly/Oscar moments were always funny.

    Thanks for finding the early clips of Elmo. I'd say the second one is definitely Brian performing him (Richard did the voice of another monster in that clip).
  6. ChickyBoy37

    ChickyBoy37 Well-Known Member

    I Found a clip that was the debut of the two headed monster!
    (According to muppet wiki The Left head was performed by Richard Hunt and the Right Head was Performed by Peter Friedman.)

    of course you can see it with better quality here!
  7. Canadian Fan

    Canadian Fan Well-Known Member

    Thanks for posting. I forgot about Peter Friedman performing half of the monster in the debut. Jerry and Richard had great chemistry with their characters though.
  8. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    Any relation to Gary Friedman?
  9. Daffyfan4ever

    Daffyfan4ever Well-Known Member

    I think the main reason for that was to allow more interaction between :super: and :insatiable:. Yet I don't know a lot of instances where that actually happened except in "Elmo's World: Happy Holidays" and maybe a few "Letter of the Day" segments.

    I always thought that Matt's BB voice was sort of a combination of the early Carroll Spinney voice and the way he sounds now, sort of like how that guy described Eric's Fozzie.
  10. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

  11. CensoredAlso

    CensoredAlso Well-Known Member

    I do too; Brian's the one I grew up with. But when I first heard the clip it sounded like the voice was kind of going in and out, so my first thought was it was Marty trying to sound like Brian. But it could also be Brian just trying something different with the character as well.
  12. ChickyBoy37

    ChickyBoy37 Well-Known Member

  13. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    Yes, that's DEFINITELY Marty's early Telly... I didn't check the tags or anything, but it sounds like maybe from 1986 or so.
  14. Canadian Fan

    Canadian Fan Well-Known Member

  15. Canadian Fan

    Canadian Fan Well-Known Member

  16. mr3urious

    mr3urious Well-Known Member

    Eric's first performance certainly sounded more Grover-like, but he definitely improved a bit in the second. He has kept Smiley's excitability intact, though.
  17. Canadian Fan

    Canadian Fan Well-Known Member

  18. Daffyfan4ever

    Daffyfan4ever Well-Known Member

    Yeah. It seems like they're missing a Snuffy voice comparison. I'd like to see how that guy would describe Marty's Snuffy in comparison with Jerry Nelso and Michael Earl.
  19. antsamthompson9

    antsamthompson9 Well-Known Member

    Wait no longer! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JuHES4W0CrQ.
  20. mr3urious

    mr3urious Well-Known Member

    Snuffy is a much better character when he's not a constant sad sack, so just like with Telly, Marty really helped flesh out his personality. :)

    Also, it's pretty

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