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Should Sesame Street continue?

Discussion in 'Sesame Street' started by Katzi428, Dec 1, 2012.

  1. Katzi428

    Katzi428 Well-Known Member

    All right: I'm not trying to cause a war here.
    But let's all look at the facts:
    The show's been going for 43 years & change. Jim Henson passed away in 1990 (?) (I give Steve Whitmire great credit for picking up where Jim left off ; don't get me wrong!) But now Jerry Nelson has passed on.Kevin Clash has decided to leave us.Carroll Spinney isn't getting any younger (even though by Ryan/prawncracker's pics /he looks wonderful,he's STILL pushing 70something) I think Fran Brill has been around since 1972. I don't know about the other Muppeteers.
    Plus what about the humans? Susan (Loretta Long) & Bob (McGrath) have been there since there since day 1! I found out from a fellow MCer that Bob is 80! At the Thanksgiving parade my family & I were remarking at how Bob had aged. If (God forbid) Bob and /or Loretta does pass away it'll be another explaining about death again to another generation of kids. It was handled well when Will Lee (Mr.Hooper) passed away 20 years ago (I applaud the writers & the cast . & just realized how long ago that was..WOW!Although I'm not happy w/the way they handled David's departure.Kids are usually told when someone leaves they come back. Big Bird was told that David moved to the farm to help his grandmother.I'm wondering how many kids wondered when David would be back.But that's just me.) Anyway, am I wrong in my thinking? And let's not turn this into a battle where the mods need to close the thread OK?
    Kathy
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  2. Oscarfan

    Oscarfan Well-Known Member

    This quote from the 20 Years special basically sums up why SST should keep going: "Because there's always something new to teach and someone new to teach it to."
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  3. Katzi428

    Katzi428 Well-Known Member

    You have a point there Osciefan (bah humbug to you by the way.;) j/k) But as I said w/the humans on the street getting older I'm sure the writers don't want to do another "I'll Miss You Bob" or whichever human passes away subplot. Know what I'm saying?
    And as for replacing Muppet voices, kids are smart. With the first new Elmo ,some kid will say "That doesn't sound like Elmo"
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  4. DannyRWW

    DannyRWW Well-Known Member

    I think Sesame Street will stick around and should. It will change...new characters will coem into the spotlight and a new generation will embrace different ones...MY 3 year old daughter doesn't love Elmo or even Abby...her favorite character is Murray.....and yes recasting will occur...thus why Chris and other humans have taken the load of work off Bob and Gordon... and Puppets will be recast as well...and yes the current group of kids watching may notice a difference...but after that you'll have a group of kids who do not care......but again I think Sesam street has its place ...yes with change many of us old school fans will grumble about it....but when you see a packed audience at sesame street live singing and dancing and cheering for characters that have been around for over 40 years.....I think it will survive the changes.....nothing can compare to the loss of Jim...but if they can find a way to survive that change they will survive these
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  5. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    I don't see why it shouldn't. It's kinda like Saturday Night Live. It's for future generations and it finds its audience there. It goes through tough runs here and there (though SS was never in the same danger of cancellation), but it always makes a big comeback. All they need to do is recast characters when puppeteers are unavailable, and they'll sound different to us, but they won't for younger generations just tuning in. As a preschool show, it takes advantage of the Fleeting Demographic Rule. I'm surprised they don't reuse more older storylines. We'd know, but the target audience wouldn't.

    Besides... the sobering fact is, if SS was cancelled, they'd put something far inferior in its place. No one wins.
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  6. MrBloogarFoobly

    MrBloogarFoobly Well-Known Member

    Though I am of the cantankerous "Sesame Street ain't what it used to be!" camp, it's STILL the best program for children out there. I shudder to think what would replace it.
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  7. mr3urious

    mr3urious Well-Known Member

    Unfortunately for the old-school fans, it's way too much of an institution to cancel. Like other long-runners such as SNL and Power Rangers/Super Sentai, it will always have a continuously changing cast and will continue to find new audiences regardless.
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  8. Hubert

    Hubert Well-Known Member

    Why is it that I get the feeling that if Bob or Loretta were to pass, their absence would just go unmentioned on the street? They're already phasing them out a ton, so as sad as it is, I don't think they would ever get a proper goodbye, whether being that they moved from the street, or if they passed.
  9. Katzi428

    Katzi428 Well-Known Member

    I guess I suffer a bit from the "Sesame Street ain't what it used to be " syndrome too. But I also don't see the show celebrating its' 100th birthday. (Then again I'm as old as Sesame Street! :eek:) I guess I'm outnumbered.
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  10. Katzi428

    Katzi428 Well-Known Member

    Hubert I think that Loretta's absence would get explained (because IF Gordon is still seen on the street & he's still married to Susan, something would HAVE to be said. And I'm pretty sure Chris is still seen on the street. He's been established as Susan's nephew. )
    As for Bob, they might pull the ol' "Bob moved." Sad to say.:rolleyes:
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  11. heralde

    heralde Well-Known Member

    I'm right there with you. We run these wonderful shows into the ground until they're shadows of their former selves. It's become your typical "talk down to kids" program. I doubt it will be cancelled because it is such an institution. Who wants to be the one to get rid of Sesame Street (besides Romney, lol)?
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  12. galagr

    galagr Well-Known Member

    I don't really like how "Elmo-esque" the show has gotten, but I would love to see a 50th anniversary special.
  13. Katzi428

    Katzi428 Well-Known Member

    Yeah..true about Romney heralde.I wonder about him. Did he have kids that watched PBS & Sesame Street? I don't want to get rid of Sesame Street (please don't get me wrong at all!) But I was thinking about this a few days ago but forgot to post about it. (stuff going on here.) Then last night I couldn't sleep so I figured I'd post. Jerry Nelson & Kevin Clash will be tough acts to follow (unless Kevin Clash changes his mind & decides to come back. Then that problem is solved) But there's still the problem of replacing Jerry Nelson. (Unfortunately he can't be brought back to life.:( )
    Speaking from a personal note, (I know I'm being repetitive & I apologize) my 12 year old niece watched SS until she was (I'd say ) 5 . My 5 year old niece stopped watching it when she was 3! (The 2 girls are 7 years apart) So I think SS was dumbed down around the time my younger niece started watching it Does that tell you something? I have a 3 year old nephew & a 1 year old niece now. They don't watch SS. They watch Disney Jr. (or at least my nephew does. I think if I asked him who Big Bird was, he wouldn't know. But if I asked him who Mickey Mouse was, he'd know.)
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  14. Katzi428

    Katzi428 Well-Known Member

    You & me on BOTH things galagr!
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  15. mostlikemokey

    mostlikemokey Active Member

    Well said. Children are smarter than we give them credit for. It irks me to think about how condescending some kids shows are now. SS still has the quality required to get us out of this phase in kid's TV (let's hope it's a phase.)
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  16. FrackleFan2012

    FrackleFan2012 Well-Known Member

    I believe that Sesame Street should continue its run. Everyone who grew up with Sesame Street came to love those cuddly Muppet characters, humans, songs, and skits that make them smile. I would be really upset if Sesame Street discontinued its run. The Count was meant for counting. Oscar was meant for grouchiness. Cookie Monster was meant for eating cookies. Elmo and Big Bird were meant for happiness. Sesame Street was meant to show education, music, letters, numbers, shapes, colors, sizes, and everything else like that. Sesame Street is like the God of all the PBS Kids shows. People all over the world love Sesame Street and its international co-productions. Joan Ganz Cooney is doing a wonderful job for Sesame Workshop and Sesame Street to continue for those many generations. So, it would be a good idea for Sesame Street to continue its broadcasting, as well as its international co-productions.
    ALL THE LOVE FOR SESAME STREET!!! :laugh::wisdom::grouchy: :p:(:insatiable::super::batty::search:
  17. heralde

    heralde Well-Known Member



    Indeed. The way it is now I'm not sure it is all that beneficial to kids. But it's unreasonable to expect that such a long running would remain fresh forever.

  18. sesamemuppetfan

    sesamemuppetfan Well-Known Member

    This question has always stuck with me for a long time. On one hand, the show kept going downhill little by little since the 90's and yeah you never know which cast member or puppeteer we're going to lose next, and it would be hard to see a different actor or hear a different character voice, but on the other hand, Sesame Street is of course the longest running show on PBS Kids right now, and it would be interesting to see how many more years it's going to last, as well as what other new segments we'd see in future episodes. (If they reach 50, I would love to see a TV special, and some other special products produced for this milestone.)

    Same with my parents and siblings while we were watching it. They were commenting on not only how Bob had been aging, but Gordon, Susan, and Luis as well.
  19. dwayne1115

    dwayne1115 Well-Known Member

    Well they are slowly getting a younger cast.. Allen Chirs Lena, and Gena... Who knows maybe Gabby and Millies will come back and become a bigger part of the cast.

    I think Gabby and Gina are kind of cute (don't tell my wife)
  20. Katzi428

    Katzi428 Well-Known Member

    I started to answer before, but something came up.
    Yes, Sesame Street is the longest running program on PBS. (I originally started talking about The Electric Company but it began in 1971.So yes, SS is in the lead) I agree if SS reaches 50 it'll be interesting to see what they'll do for this milestone.
    Now for the human characters:
    Gordon (Roscoe Orman) is about 68 (he was born the same year as my dad: 1944)
    I don't know what year Susan (Loretta Long) was born but didn't she get into some kind of accident last year (hit by a car? It was in the papers.) Anyway she's pushing 70 if she's not past that already.
    Luis (Emilio Delgado) I'm guessing he's in his 50s.I think he joined the cast in 1974 but don't quote me.
    Even though Maria (Sonia Manzano) wasn't in the Thanksgiving parade , I read she was born in the 50s so she's 50something.
    As for the others I have no clue.
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