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Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by D'Snowth, Apr 23, 2007.
Yea I was talking to Snowth about this and he said that the reviews were not very good...
weather the reviews were good or not I kinda want it
Come on! Seriously! The first one got mostly negative reviews, and the rating was dropped to ONE star; the second one was met with very mixed reviews, but a vast majority of fans said it was disappointing (I didn't see it myself)... are Ross and Janice hoping the third time will be the charm or something?
The first one was enjoyable and a surprise hit. The second one was a poorly edited joke... and despite the fact I liked it initially, I rue the day I saw that instead of Princess and the Frog. But then again, how was I to know Disney rushed that one off to video.
Princess and the Frog was supposed to be Disney's triumphal return to the 2D World of Princess Movies, but when I saw some of the concepts of it, it seemed to me like they were trying too hard for a smash hit, when they should have been trying to tell a great story...but that's for a different thread!
I absolutely loved the first movie! My niece and I watch it together all the time, and we like to quote it to each other at random moments...the second one I haven't seen yet, but when I saw the Chipettes, I thought, "This could either fly high, or do a belly flop..." I think I'll wait to make my judgment until I see it. 3D, though? I don't know...thinking about the Chipmunks running at you, and playing paddle ball is kind of fun!
I haven't heard anything about how The Chipettes did in the Squeakquel, other than the lack of Simon and Jeanette moments... I hear it was most Alvin/Brittany.
My concern was how they would change their personalities to appeal to today's audiences, because I always liked Jeanette and Eleanor's personalities... Brittany's not so much, so I could care less about her... her "Single Ladies" dancing seemed somewhat suggestive, so it doesn't look like they changed her personality all that much... I'm just still surprised about her wearing a necktie because (NO OFFENSE TO ANYONE) Brittany was supposed to be the trendy one, and as far neckties go, women wearing neckties is a lesbian stereotype, so I figure Brittany wouldn't want that.
At the same time, I bet "fetish" fans were disappointed, because I've still shots of The Chipettes bare in the Squeakquel... I know a lot of fans wanted to see them naked, but that ain't what they were wanting, lol.
But my biggest question is this -- I remember reading an interview with Ross and Janice that as a nod to fans who grew up with them in the 80s, they were going to put a scene in the Squeakquel where Brittany, out of curiosity, tries on a pair of legwarmers, decides "nah", and tosses them aside... did that happen at all?
Hmm...I can't quite remember if the legwarmers were in the film. I don't think so, but still not certain.
As far as personality goes, Brittany just wasn't as much a diva as before. Maybe it's just me, but she just seemed so much more sweet and stuff. If you need me, I'll be watching episodes of the 80's show and reminiscing about nostalgia I hadn't even lived through.
I heard that an 80s episode "Cinderella? Cinderella!" was being released on DVD... that was a good little dream sequence episode.
Cinderella/Cinderella is out now. I saw it somewhere... just can't remember where.
As for the movie...
Well, they clearly changed the backstory of the Chipettes. In this version they were actually big fans of the Chipmunks, and they apparently didn't know about the end of the partnership between Alvin and Uncle Harry... I mean Ian. They mail themselves to Ian who basically used them as pawns to try to get back into the recording industry, and they're completely naive to the fact.
Now, I don't think Brittney was all that stuck up... she was disgusted at Alvin's male diva attitude... Elenore was kinda the same. Jeanette's shyness was WAAAAY played up. And I don't think her and Simon really had any significant scenes with each other. But then again, the movie felt like it was edited with a hatchet and put together with tape, so there could have been stuff that didn't make it. Alvin and Britney, Elenore and Theodore yes...
Actually, thinking about it, it's not so much I didn't like the movie. I did, actually. Not as much as the first, and I wouldn't want to see a third unless they have a very good plot (or at least reference Clyde Crashcup in some way). It's just that those three key things I had problems with, bad editing, Dave's nephew, and Alvin's movie quoting. And the fart joke was a jaded little cheap laugh.
If they toned down Brittany, I can put up with that very well... I remember in the old days of fanfics I always tried to write Brittany with more of a heart than she did on the show, and that seemed to go over well with other fans.
Toned down to a point. At the beginning they were more fan-girly if anything. They DID get diva-ish at a certain point in the movie. But she was mad at Alvin for a good part of the film. That I ALWAYS remembered. That never changed.
Who WOULDN'T be mad at Alvin? I mean, he's a little red-capped jerk-wad butt-faced twerp! It's a wonder he's never drove Dave to the point of suicide... or at least putting him back up for adoption.
Now I gotta wonder... since there's going to be ANOTHER movie, and since the official Chipmunks website has FINALLY been updated recently, does this mean that this will be the characters' permanent new look? Not THAT much of a bother I guess, but if you ask me, this move is like if we suddenly made Mickey, Donald and Goofy look like a real mouse, duck and dog.
Well... lover's frustration is more like it.
I never really cared much for the whole CGI half breeding of realism and cartoonism. Unfortunately they're going the Garfield route as far as merchandise goes, and not the Scooby-Doo route... the former being movie likeness, the latter the classic cartoon likeness. I can't say I really like their movie likenesses all that much, and I still wonder why they decided to go for looking like the original album art but with their 60's-90's clothes... especially since the 60's-90's character designs are the most used up until this point.
I really hope to see Merchandise that looks like their 80's/90's designs at some point. I saw this singing Alvin that sings the Christmas song that looked like the 90's version either last or 2 Christmases ago. Didn't actually want to buy it, but something like that without a singing mechanism.
I saw those in stores this past Christmas, but I wasn't sure how old they were, or how long they'd been around.
Other than that, once in a blue moon, I might find plushies/beanies of the 60s version in those rigged iron claw machines... sometimes I'll even see seasonal Rocky and Bullwinkle beanies (like a Rocky with a red helmet and his tail painted red with white hearts for Valentines Day, or a green helmet with red goggles for Christmas, etc).
I always loved Theodore and Eleanor together...Theodore reminded me of myself as a kid, and his crush on Eleanor was so endearing, and just plain cute! Hopefully they had some nice scenes together...
Theodore and Eleanor were definitely my second favorite couple; I like how in earlier seasons of the 80s cartoon, they were somewhat open about their feelings for each other, like Theodore order two large juices for them both, or Eleanor wrapping herself around Theodore after eating his last peanut.
It's a shame that Eleanor's so under-rated though, so much in fact that people who don't like her don't even understand her AT ALL... they're like "Oh, she was the annoying chubby one who loved to eat like Theodore." I don't recall Eleanor ever being annoying... and she wasn't as gluttonous as Theodore, and on top of that, her "chubbiness" was really from where she had built herself up in all the sporting activities she got involved in... so she wasn't really "chubby" persay as she was "buff". I mean heck, I think someone like her would be a much better role model for little girls out there than Miley Cyrus and Lindsay Lohan.
So nice to hear somebody else has the same feelings about them, Snowth! They're so underrated, and usually they're treated like the extras in the group... boy, I really want to see the Squeakquel now!
I'd almost be up for seeing the third one... but as much as I liked Ian in the first, I felt his appearance in the second smacked of sequelitis. Basically bringing back a character from the first movie, giving him the same basic role, only now they want revenge for the actions of the first movie. That's the same problem I had with TMNT Secert of the Ooze. I love Shredder and all, but the TMNT have all these great villains like Baxter Stockman and so forth... they would have been a much better fit than the toy commercial they ended up with.
Batman doesn't ALWAYS have to fight the Joker. I want a new villain or something for the next film.
Plus, I swear to frog... I HATE the fact they shoved Fox's Nascar mascot into the film for NO apparent reason.
I'm not sure about Theodore... I think it might because he's the young, innocent, naive one, and it seems like often times, people grow tired of that after a while, because you can really only push innocence and naivete so far before it's not even really funny anymore. At least that's what I've heard from some M*A*S*Hers who actually found Radar annoying after a while.
As for Eleanor, I blame it on lack of writing - with Brittany being the lead Chipette, naturally she gets a lot of attention, and as far as the show went, even Jeanette had a few really good episodes focused on her, but Eleanor really only had like one episode focused on her, and other than that, she was overshadowed quite often; the movies make up for it though, like her big moment in The Chipmunk Adventure insisting they head down to Antarctica to bring the baby penguin back home, and she was essentially the leading lady of the wolfman movie since that focused mostly on Theodore.
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