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The Muppets Go To The Movies

Discussion in 'Classic Muppets' started by MissMusical12, Jul 25, 2012.

  1. LouisTheOtter

    LouisTheOtter Well-Known Member

    I've enjoyed seeing both of The Muppets Go To The Movies and The Muppets Go Hollywood on YouTube over the past couple of years - it was the first time I'd seen either of them since I was seven or eight years old and WOW, they're STILL a treat even when watching them on an adult level.

    I'll agree with previous posters that Hollywood seems frothier and more celebrity-driven (although it still has its fun moments) while Movies is funnier and lands more great humourous body blows. I still love all the crazy movie parodies, right down to the Muppet-driven studio logos, as well as the no-holds-barred approach from Tomlin, Moore and the Muppeteers themselves. And yes, Kermit correcting the announcer after Fozzie botches the carving of the title (and then knocks the whole thing over)...priceless...

    I honestly think The Muppets Go To The Movies should be the template for any new Muppet TV specials. It doesn't worry about trying to be hip or cool (you'll notice that none of the spoofed films were released after 1970), it doesn't go overboard in self-promotion, and it's just flat-out crazy and fun. I'm so glad Muppet fans are still enjoying it, decades later. (And count me in for the campaign to get it released on DVD!!!)
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  2. mupcollector1

    mupcollector1 Well-Known Member

    I loved the trumpet player in the begaining where he's just jazzing it up and Dudley pushes him over. lol Every single time I see roman trumpetts like that, I always think of that gag. I was recently watching Mel Brooks' History of The World part 1 waiting for the gag then I though "Oh wait, that was from The Muppets Go To The Movies" lol
  3. mupcollector1

    mupcollector1 Well-Known Member

    Though I think The Three Stooges did a similar gag in one of their shorts either roman horn or army horn.
  4. MissMusical12

    MissMusical12 Well-Known Member

    I wasn't too big on The Muppets Go Hollywood, either. :smirk: Yes there were still some good moments in there, as well as you said. I feel The Muppets Go To The Movies was much better though.
  5. mupcollector1

    mupcollector1 Well-Known Member

    I thought it was okay but yeah, I feel the same way, there should have been more Muppets. I did like Sam collecting Autographs lol I miss those classic specials. In fact, I'm watching The Fantastic Miss Piggy Show as I type. :)
  6. dwmckim

    dwmckim Well-Known Member

    One of my fave Muppet projects and Silent Strawberries is one of the best Muppet bits EVER!

    Not so much kicks MAMMA again but basically does a full bodyslam into him.

    Lily Tomlin's Ernestine character is from Laugh-In - based on your other posts i would HIGHLY reccomend checking it out! One of the best tv shows ever and a huge influence on BOTH SST and TMS
  7. Duke Remington

    Duke Remington Well-Known Member

    Personally, I think Muppets Go to the Movies could be on the Season 4 set, with Of Muppets and Men coming on Season 5.

    If that's the case, I kinda think that it's a very likely reason for the hold-up on the release of Season 4--a LOT of copyrights to clear on that one. :p
  8. mupcollector1

    mupcollector1 Well-Known Member

    Other posts? I heard of Laugh-In but never seen a full episode. That's the show where John Wayne said "You better bet your sweet pippie." and that sketch where people tell corny jokes opening doors or something like that. Was that the same show where Jennie from I Dream of Jennie got in big trouble with the network or the FCC for showing her navel? That's all I know about Laugh-In. But I'll totally check it out. It must be good. The Simpsons I think did tons of parodies on that show. I remember seeing one with Krusty the Clown getting trapped in the door sketch just swearing saying he can't get the door open, then cuts to a scene where Krusty explains how he got banned from the industry for another 10 years. lol I got to find that episode and watch it again. lol
    Anyway, I hope it's better than Hee Haw (shivers). Hee Haw to me looked funny when I seen the Time Life commercials, then I found a full episode on the internet, too much deadpan humor and not enough slapstick. lol Well at least Roy Clark got to me on The Muppet Show singing Rocky Top (Probably one of my favorite TMS moments plus my favorite Country song)

    Also wasn't the producer of Laugh-In that George Shlatter, the guy who was mentioned on The Muppet Show pitch tape? What ever happened to that guy? It seems he was only involved briefly.
  9. mupcollector1

    mupcollector1 Well-Known Member

    Yeah, I figured that was the case. Me and my best friend are still waiting for it so we just enjoy our TV recording versions that I got from tape trades awhile back when they were taped on Nickelodeon. The Muppet Show and the following Muppet Shows had more copyrighted songs then they did original...Well except for the movies of course.

    I remember Brain Henson said that Muppets Tonight would be next after TMS DVDs

    Still no idea about a Jim Henson Hour box set. There's Dog City and Song of The Cloud Forest, but still I'd like a complete series set. But we all know all the complications of just how the Jim Henson characters copyrights got split up to different companies. I still remember when times were simple. Three words, Muppet Family Christmas. Good Times :)

    Anyway I just converted The Muppets Go To The Movies to my ipod, I'm not sure if my best friend seen it yet. We hang out and watch DVDs from our huge DVD libraries every other weekend. And my friend just got into The Muppet Show Muppets a bit. Now he's got all Three Muppet Show box sets, also some rare footage that I made copies to him. It's nice to have someone who can enjoy The Muppets with besides myself. :)
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  10. mupcollector1

    mupcollector1 Well-Known Member

    I just watched the special today on my ipod when eating lunch and most of the day just imitating Link as Gummo. lol "No, your the stupid one." lol Link was go great in that special. lol Rowlf playing music to the silent arabic film featuring Kermit and his surprised maden. "HOW CROSS BUNNIES, I JUST GOT IT LOL"

    I know that there's a lot of debate on classic Muppets vs the current Muppets but this special, NOW THAT'S THE MUPPETS TO ME! That's My Kind of Muppets.

    The broadway rock music
    Bad puns
    Dysfunctional characters
    Irreverent humor and slapstick
    the Wild, Zanny and weird energy
    It just brings it all back to me. lol

    By the way, was Gummo a reference or inside joke or was it just this silly surreal name they kept using. Link is called Gummo, Sam narrates Silent Strawberries written by Gummo Burbman. And in the credits.....hang on let me check my ipod here. (I figure it would be funny to actually type that. lol) Written by Jerry Juhl, Chris Langham, Jim Henson and GUMMO. lol

    Wow, there's just so many good things I can say about this special, the gags and everything. "I think Hot Crossed Bunnies were too hip for them" and how Kermit told Miss Piggy that the Penguins make her look good in the Heatwave number. lol

    But yeah, I think the special is on a dutch DVD release. I'm not sure if there's an original audio track. I'd even just love to buy a copy just to remaster it for myself.

    Like I said, to me this was like the final bow and curtain to The Muppet Show. The theater was there, the original zanny humor was there, almost everyone who worked on the series was there, etc.

    Personally I would like to see this on the Season 5 DVD on an extras disk with Muppets & Men as well as the rare wrap tapes that have been floating around youtube lately.

    And maybe Season 4 could have blooper reels if any still exist. The Channel promos, TV appearances, Even the full Johnny Carson Tonight Show where Kermit hosts could be on an extras disk (unless the Johnny Carson company already released it somehow, I heard they are releasing full episodes to DVD)
  11. CensoredAlso

    CensoredAlso Well-Known Member

    Gummo was the fifth Marx Brother who dropped out of the group and no one had heard of, hehe.
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  12. mupcollector1

    mupcollector1 Well-Known Member

    Cool :) Wasn't there six? I know that Groucho, Cheeco, Harpo, where the main three and Zeppo was only in the WB Marx films and dropped out when they did the Universal ones. They had a huge family there. lol I love the Marx Bros. lol So cool The Muppets referenced him.
  13. Duke Remington

    Duke Remington Well-Known Member

    I can't see them putting two "specials" on one set.

    When you think about, aside from the more obscure bits and pieces (like the old commercials/promos, the pitch reel, the Weezer music video, etc.), each of the first three season sets included only one classic Muppet special as a bonus feature--Season 1 had the "Sex & Violence" pilot, Season 2 had the "Valentine Show" pilot (even though the Valentine Show was produced before Sex & Violence) and Season 3 had "The Muppets on Puppets".

    So, I still predict that we might get Muppets Go to the Movies on Season 4 and Of Muppets & Men on Season 5. I remember hearing from somewhere a few years back that Of Muppets & Men was being reserved for Season 5. Another reason I can see Go to the Movies being placed on Season 4 is because Dudley Moore (who guest-starred on the regular series in Season 4) appears in it.
  14. Mo Frackle

    Mo Frackle Well-Known Member

    Zeppo replaced Gummo in the vaudeville act around the time America got involved in WWI. Gummo had been the straight man in the act, and because this role wasn't conisdered all that important, and the brothers' mother wanted at least one of her boys in the army, it made since to her to get rid of Gummo. She brought Zeppo in, and Zeppo stayed with the brothers when they went to Broadway. Zeppo didn't like performing, and was sadly usually given very little to do in the act.

    Then the Brothers started doing movies in 1929. Their first five movies (the ones with Zeppo) were actually made at Paramount (not WB). The next handful of movies (without Zeppo) were made at MGM (not Universal). In additon, one was made at RKO, and a few were distributed by UA.

    One thing that should also be mentioned is that while Chico's name looks like it's pronounced ''Cheeco'', it's actually pronounced "Chicko". Chico got his nickname because he liked to chase girls (or "chickens").

    And yes, there was a sixth Marx Brother. Actually, he was the first. His name was Manfred. But he sadly passed away while he was just an infant.
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  15. Mo Frackle

    Mo Frackle Well-Known Member

    I'm not 100% sure, but I think OM&M being released on the season 5 DVD was just a 'wish', rather than a statement.
  16. mupcollector1

    mupcollector1 Well-Known Member

    Cool, thanks for the info on The Marx Brothers. So Chico is named that for chasing girls and Harpo is called that because he plays the harp. But how did Groucho get his name. He seems for of a trickster than Grouchy. lol

    I probably got confussed with WB and Universal because I own the two big box sets of their movies, the studios much have gotten special permission to get them.

    I just love classic comedy. And I've always felt somehow The Muppets kind of falls into that genre. :)
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  17. Mo Frackle

    Mo Frackle Well-Known Member

    Nobody seems to know the official reason behind Groucho's name (or Zeppo's name for that matter). Some people think it may have actually had to do with Groucho's rather grouchy personality (if you ever find a copy of "The Marx Brothers Scrapbook", you'll see that he could be a real grouch). Others say he got the nickname because he used to carry around a grouch bag (which was some kind of a man-purse). Groucho himself once said he was named after a comic strip character.

    Yeah, it's easy to get the studios mixed up when different companies wind up with films.

    And I think the Marxs (and loads of other comics from that period) had an influence on the Muppets' style. Marx Brothers references were sometimes used on TMS (Kermit recreating the mirror sequence from "Duck Soup" in an early episode, George Burns making a joke about Gonzo being one of the Brothers, the Muppet Newsman asking Rich Little if working with the Muppets is like being in a Marx film, etc.). In fact, one of Jim Henson's favorite movies was the Marx's film "At the Circus". That's the movie that "Lydia the Tatooed Lady" made its debut. In fact, the version heard in "At the Circus" has a few lines not heard in the Muppet version.

    And of course, there's the famous "Groucho Marx glasses" that the Muppets (especially Fozzie) frequently use.
  18. mupcollector1

    mupcollector1 Well-Known Member

    Yellow cover? Charactured drawings of the Marxs on the front? I think I own it. Lots of cool rare photos.

    I remember Lidia the Tattooed lady, or in the Muppets cause the tattooed pig. Was Piggy jellious. "No I haven't (meet her), have you meet my left fist?" POW! Poor Kermit. lol

    I remember that episode with Scooter buying the robotic Kermit, never compaired that with the Famous Marx brothers gag. lol

    Speaking of which, aren't The Honkers from Sesame Street based on Harpo?

    By the way, there's something I noticed about The Muppets Go To The Movies. On the Gone with The Wind parody where the houses are on fire and it's Dudley with Miss Piggy. When the firemen are spraying the hoses everywhere, after Piggy's first remark, a Muppeteer or someone on the set is heard laughing breifly. Anyone caught that? lol
  19. Mo Frackle

    Mo Frackle Well-Known Member

    Don't know. I own a really old copy (probably the first print). Is the book filled with nothing but photos and actual interviews (transcript form), rather than a standard photos with 'story' format?
  20. mupcollector1

    mupcollector1 Well-Known Member

    I know that there's a lot of rare family photos and Groucho co-written the book.

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